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Anonymous wrote:As long as you are aware that OOS UC system students are full pay only.

If you are OK paying 80K per year in tuition, I don't see why $80 in application fee would trigger a discussion
My high stats student did not apply to UC's for that reason
It was UMD, Ivies, or bust

Same for my high stats kid.

Given the price of college they too felt other than ivy the rest weren't worth the cost. And they're a cs major

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Anonymous wrote:Trying to convince DD not to spend time and energy on the UC Berkeley application. She's a fantastic kid with a 4.3, strong leadership, paid job, community service, etc. But there is no way she's going to stand out and get into Berkeley. But her counselor keeps telling her "you never know". The application is separate from common app and there are 4 supplementals. Just feels like a waste of time. Sorry - no real question, just venting.

Berkeley's OOS acceptance rate is about 3-4% for the past several years.

All you can tell her is this^, and leave it at that.

My DC with a 4.92 wgpa, 4.0 unwgpa from a magnet program was rejected at UCLA and Cal. TBF, DC's major is CS, which is probably the most competitive major.

My DC with 4.61 wgpa, 4.0 unwgpa from TJ was accepted at Cal with EE/CS.

goes to show how much of a lottery it is

it shows TJ is more recognized than Blair magnet.

? what makes you think they are from Blair. For all you know, we could be from another state entirely.

No, it's Blair. The "4.92 wgpa" gives it away.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, same situation here but for UCLA.

they are all the same, single application its just about adding UC colleges to the form.

Right, my kid will probably check both boxes. It's just another 80 bucks. And will probably add UCSD while he's at it.

Point is that it's a waste of money. Kid is not getting into UCLA and isn't going to ultimately choose UCSD.

You kid is not getting into UCSD either.

That may be. Thanks for the insight, glad you know my kid so well.

Many people apply to all the UC schools with high stats and get it to none.

That is not to say don’t apply, you may get in, but don’t ever view your UC apps as safeties.

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Anonymous wrote:As long as you are aware that OOS UC system students are full pay only.

If you are OK paying 80K per year in tuition, I don't see why $80 in application fee would trigger a discussion
My high stats student did not apply to UC's for that reason
It was UMD, Ivies, or bust

Same for my high stats kid.

Given the price of college they too felt other than ivy the rest weren't worth the cost. And they're a cs major

Interesting.

The Ivies are not particularly known for Comp Sci.

UMD Comp Sci is good, particularly in Cyber Security. If you are from MD and can get in it is a decent option.

I would think some of the top Comp Sci programs (not Ivies) may help you land a better job unless Cyber Security is really your thing.

Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon, University of Illinois … (Although you have to be pretty smart to do well at these places.)

If you don’t get into UMD, there are plenty of other schools that will give you a comp sci degree, many of which are more expensive for an MD resident.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, same situation here but for UCLA.

they are all the same, single application its just about adding UC colleges to the form.

Right, my kid will probably check both boxes. It's just another 80 bucks. And will probably add UCSD while he's at it.

Point is that it's a waste of money. Kid is not getting into UCLA and isn't going to ultimately choose UCSD.

You kid is not getting into UCSD either.

That may be. Thanks for the insight, glad you know my kid so well.

Many people apply to all the UC schools with high stats and get it to none.

That is not to say don’t apply, you may get in, but don’t ever view your UC apps as safeties.

She can view San Diego, Santa Barbara, as targets and Merced and Riverside as safeties

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Anonymous wrote:I know three OOS KIDS are currently at Berkeley who didn’t get into other similarly ranked or even lower ranked schools. You never know!

All the students who have matriculated at UCB or UCLA from our DMV private were shut out of ivies, Duke, Stanford. The ones who got in to ivies also got in to UCB or ucla or both.

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Anonymous wrote:As long as you are aware that OOS UC system students are full pay only.

If you are OK paying 80K per year in tuition, I don't see why $80 in application fee would trigger a discussion
My high stats student did not apply to UC's for that reason
It was UMD, Ivies, or bust

Same for my high stats kid.

Given the price of college they too felt other than ivy the rest weren't worth the cost. And they're a cs major

Same, tho engineering not CS: decided t15 privates and ivies with Engineering were the only ones worth paying more than UVA in state. UCB is great for grad school, but too big for undergraduates to have the smaller class experience and not the right level of faculty accessibility and options for research &publication.

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Anonymous wrote:As long as you are aware that OOS UC system students are full pay only.

If you are OK paying 80K per year in tuition, I don't see why $80 in application fee would trigger a discussion
My high stats student did not apply to UC's for that reason
It was UMD, Ivies, or bust

Same for my high stats kid.

Given the price of college they too felt other than ivy the rest weren't worth the cost. And they're a cs major

Interesting.

The Ivies are not particularly known for Comp Sci.

UMD Comp Sci is good, particularly in Cyber Security. If you are from MD and can get in it is a decent option.

I would think some of the top Comp Sci programs (not Ivies) may help you land a better job unless Cyber Security is really your thing.

Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon, University of Illinois … (Although you have to be pretty smart to do well at these places.)

If you don’t get into UMD, there are plenty of other schools that will give you a comp sci degree, many of which are more expensive for an MD resident.

Definitely wrong here. Penn, Cornell, Columbia, Princeton, Brown, Harvard are extremely well known for CS and place better than Berkeley and UofI into Google/Meta. Go check career survey stats and you can see yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:My fresman son’s suitemate at UC Davis graduated from St. Albans. I found that intriguing. I thought DC Big 3 looked down their noses at UC’s.

UC Davis has the top animal science program in the country plus a DC resident would receive 10K a year off of tuition. For some full pay families, with 2+ kids, OOS public universities are a prudent choice.

DD is a HS sophomore and looking at UC Davis for these reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:As long as you are aware that OOS UC system students are full pay only.

If you are OK paying 80K per year in tuition, I don't see why $80 in application fee would trigger a discussion
My high stats student did not apply to UC's for that reason
It was UMD, Ivies, or bust

Same for my high stats kid.

Given the price of college they too felt other than ivy the rest weren't worth the cost. And they're a cs major

Interesting.

The Ivies are not particularly known for Comp Sci.

UMD Comp Sci is good, particularly in Cyber Security. If you are from MD and can get in it is a decent option.

I would think some of the top Comp Sci programs (not Ivies) may help you land a better job unless Cyber Security is really your thing.

Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon, University of Illinois … (Although you have to be pretty smart to do well at these places.)

If you don’t get into UMD, there are plenty of other schools that will give you a comp sci degree, many of which are more expensive for an MD resident.

Definitely wrong here. Penn, Cornell, Columbia, Princeton, Brown, Harvard are extremely well known for CS and place better than Berkeley and UofI into Google/Meta. Go check career survey stats and you can see yourself.

100% true I have a CS kid at Penn and their HS buddy went to Cornell. There is no CS bust it r even slow down in hiring like there was at other places for 2024 seniors. ENIAC was invented at Penn; a large part of CS was started there. CIS majors (and all their Engineering majors) are extremely marketable because of the depth of courses and the interdisciplinary nature of the majors: faculty collaborate across disciplines and undergraduates get to work side by side on new innovations. Their resumes by the time they start junior year are insane.

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Anonymous wrote:Trying to convince DD not to spend time and energy on the UC Berkeley application. She's a fantastic kid with a 4.3, strong leadership, paid job, community service, etc. But there is no way she's going to stand out and get into Berkeley. But her counselor keeps telling her "you never know". The application is separate from common app and there are 4 supplementals. Just feels like a waste of time. Sorry - no real question, just venting.

Berkeley's OOS acceptance rate is about 3-4% for the past several years.

All you can tell her is this^, and leave it at that.

My DC with a 4.92 wgpa, 4.0 unwgpa from a magnet program was rejected at UCLA and Cal. TBF, DC's major is CS, which is probably the most competitive major.

My DC with 4.61 wgpa, 4.0 unwgpa from TJ was accepted at Cal with EE/CS.

goes to show how much of a lottery it is

it shows TJ is more recognized than Blair magnet.

? what makes you think they are from Blair. For all you know, we could be from another state entirely.

No, it's Blair. The "4.92 wgpa" gives it away.

??whatever Blair is that is not a unique or identifying gpa. senior parent whose son has 4.94 W.

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Anonymous wrote:As long as you are aware that OOS UC system students are full pay only.

If you are OK paying 80K per year in tuition, I don't see why $80 in application fee would trigger a discussion
My high stats student did not apply to UC's for that reason
It was UMD, Ivies, or bust

Same for my high stats kid.

Given the price of college they too felt other than ivy the rest weren't worth the cost. And they're a cs major

Interesting.

The Ivies are not particularly known for Comp Sci.

UMD Comp Sci is good, particularly in Cyber Security. If you are from MD and can get in it is a decent option.

I would think some of the top Comp Sci programs (not Ivies) may help you land a better job unless Cyber Security is really your thing.

Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon, University of Illinois … (Although you have to be pretty smart to do well at these places.)

If you don’t get into UMD, there are plenty of other schools that will give you a comp sci degree, many of which are more expensive for an MD resident.

Brown University computer science bachelor's degree graduates earn $271,601 vs. $144,240 for UMD according to College Scorecard data. So many on DCUM like to perpetuate this myth of Ivy students majoring in nothing but gender studies and French lit.

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Anonymous wrote:I know three OOS KIDS are currently at Berkeley who didn’t get into other similarly ranked or even lower ranked schools. You never know!

Well, this is because Berkeley and UCLA (for undergrad) are overrated….

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Anonymous wrote:As long as you are aware that OOS UC system students are full pay only.

If you are OK paying 80K per year in tuition, I don't see why $80 in application fee would trigger a discussion
My high stats student did not apply to UC's for that reason
It was UMD, Ivies, or bust

Same for my high stats kid.

Given the price of college they too felt other than ivy the rest weren't worth the cost. And they're a cs major

Interesting.

The Ivies are not particularly known for Comp Sci.

UMD Comp Sci is good, particularly in Cyber Security. If you are from MD and can get in it is a decent option.

I would think some of the top Comp Sci programs (not Ivies) may help you land a better job unless Cyber Security is really your thing.

Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon, University of Illinois … (Although you have to be pretty smart to do well at these places.)

If you don’t get into UMD, there are plenty of other schools that will give you a comp sci degree, many of which are more expensive for an MD resident.

Brown University computer science bachelor's degree graduates earn $271,601 vs. $144,240 for UMD according to College Scorecard data. So many on DCUM like to perpetuate this myth of Ivy students majoring in nothing but gender studies and French lit.

Well I think DCUM is full of bitter people who like to perpetuate a lot of things that are not true.

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My kid got into Berkeley last year from DCPS in the early admission program which we didn’t know was a thing (top 2% of those accepted) but was waitlisted at UCLA. Although she liked Berkeley, she found it to be too big, too far away and housing uncertain. She got into some ivies but decided to take a full ride at another great state flagship. Maybe she will go to UCB for grad school which I would encourage.