UVA GPA - 90% with 4.0 GPA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:+1000

The FCPS counselor at DC's school told their friend that with their WGPA and SAT, they were 100% guaranteed to get into UVA, no ifs and or buts, regardless of ECs or essay, etc. From own past experience with her for DC's older sibling, we thought that she was nuts. We have no idea what the kid's WGPA and SAT were.

DC's friend got in during ED.

So yes, reviewing the Naviance data, and more importantly, having the counselor interpret that data properly for your school, is very important. Even if the counselor is a dingbat (as ours was).

The issue, I think, is that at the private schools UVA is harder to read. Parents of DC's friends who go to privates (Big 3, Landon, Gonzaga, Potomac) complain that UVA disfavors their kids in favor of the publics. Those of us who had kids in publics could say the same about the privates (particularly the Catholic schools). Grass being greener on other side of fence, etc. That's why we have so many of these posts in this board asking about the past experiences because the information isn't as available as in the public schools.

This is hilarious. Garnering sympathy for your 200k plus high school education. Must be hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dean J says they don't bother recalculating because they look at grade trends over GPAs.

https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-role-of-gpa-in-uva-admission-review.html

How can there be a trend when everyone has over a 4.0?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dean J says they don't bother recalculating because they look at grade trends over GPAs.

https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-role-of-gpa-in-uva-admission-review.html

How can there be a trend when everyone has over a 4.0?

Read the PP posts here. It's all relative. For the most part, your DC is competing against the other DCs in their high school. Even if your entire high school ha over 4.0, if your DC has good trends compared to other applicants from your high school, that's good. UVA has enough data from the schools to figure this out.

Trying to compare applicants in different school systems (Loudoun v. Fairfax v. Arlington) is a mug's game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious for those of you saying uva kids not brightest, where is your child in college?

Exactly. I’m proud of my kid attending UVA (as an Echols Scholar by the way).
HS Valedictorian
Straight As
Top rigor
NMSF
1500+
GPA 5.2+
Captain niche sport
Instrument
Long-term and substantive ECs
Many awards…on and on
And their UVA friends are very smart as well.
The $$$ we save vs. going private (as we are full pay) is put into their brokerage account.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. My current high school student has a 4.0W GPA. That is with As and Bs. Does that mean they would be considered or should we not even try?

It really depends on how your kid is positioned relative to the others in their high school.

At our FCPS high school, a 4.0W GPA probably would be too low for UVA, but probably would be a target for JMU. This is accounting for the GPA boost that comes with senior year in most cases.

At a school in Abingdon or Irvington and the kid is in the top 5%-10%? Then the chances are better.

This is crucial. ask your college counselor about where your child stands in class vis-a-vis the other top students; has she taken the most rigorous courses available?; ask to be shown by Naviance or whatever computer system your high school uses as to where she stands vis-a-vis prior students of that high school who were admitted.. Last year the bottom 25th percentile reported having 4.20 so a 4.00 weighted is bottom of the class, where msny of the hooked kids are.

Naviance uses full grades to the end of senior year. So it is possible if your child is at 4.1 as a junior, completes APs and gets a 4.3 or more by the end of the school year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. My current high school student has a 4.0W GPA. That is with As and Bs. Does that mean they would be considered or should we not even try?

It really depends on how your kid is positioned relative to the others in their high school.

At our FCPS high school, a 4.0W GPA probably would be too low for UVA, but probably would be a target for JMU. This is accounting for the GPA boost that comes with senior year in most cases.

At a school in Abingdon or Irvington and the kid is in the top 5%-10%? Then the chances are better.

This is crucial. ask your college counselor about where your child stands in class vis-a-vis the other top students; has she taken the most rigorous courses available?; ask to be shown by Naviance or whatever computer system your high school uses as to where she stands vis-a-vis prior students of that high school who were admitted.. Last year the bottom 25th percentile reported having 4.20 so a 4.00 weighted is bottom of the class, where msny of the hooked kids are.

Naviance uses full grades to the end of senior year. So it is possible if your child is at 4.1 as a junior, completes APs and gets a 4.3 or more by the end of the school year.

Possible but not likely. And, even then, a 4.30 but the applicant below the mean of 4.38

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dean J says they don't bother recalculating because they look at grade trends over GPAs.

https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-role-of-gpa-in-uva-admission-review.html

How can there be a trend when everyone has over a 4.0?

Read the PP posts here. It's all relative. For the most part, your DC is competing against the other DCs in their high school. Even if your entire high school ha over 4.0, if your DC has good trends compared to other applicants from your high school, that's good. UVA has enough data from the schools to figure this out.

Trying to compare applicants in different school systems (Loudoun v. Fairfax v. Arlington) is a mug's game.

+1. Due to grade inflation and APs, the "trend" has shifted upward. Now the entering class at UVA has a 4.51 at the 75th percentile; a 4.38 at the median; and a 4.20 at the bottom 25th percebtile

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dean J says they don't bother recalculating because they look at grade trends over GPAs.

https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-role-of-gpa-in-uva-admission-review.html

How can there be a trend when everyone has over a 4.0?

Read the PP posts here. It's all relative. For the most part, your DC is competing against the other DCs in their high school. Even if your entire high school ha over 4.0, if your DC has good trends compared to other applicants from your high school, that's good. UVA has enough data from the schools to figure this out.

Trying to compare applicants in different school systems (Loudoun v. Fairfax v. Arlington) is a mug's game.

+1. Due to grade inflation and APs, the "trend" has shifted upward. Now the entering class at UVA has a 4.51 at the 75th percentile; a 4.38 at the median; and a 4.20 at the bottom 25th percebtile

I definitely wouldn’t apply unless you have a 4.3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dean J says they don't bother recalculating because they look at grade trends over GPAs.

https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-role-of-gpa-in-uva-admission-review.html

How can there be a trend when everyone has over a 4.0?

Read the PP posts here. It's all relative. For the most part, your DC is competing against the other DCs in their high school. Even if your entire high school ha over 4.0, if your DC has good trends compared to other applicants from your high school, that's good. UVA has enough data from the schools to figure this out.

Trying to compare applicants in different school systems (Loudoun v. Fairfax v. Arlington) is a mug's game.

+1. Due to grade inflation and APs, the "trend" has shifted upward. Now the entering class at UVA has a 4.51 at the 75th percentile; a 4.38 at the median; and a 4.20 at the bottom 25th percebtile

I definitely wouldn’t apply unless you have a 4.3

unless hooked perhaps. 4.3+ and in top
6% of class having taken the most rigorous coursework offered

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dean J says they don't bother recalculating because they look at grade trends over GPAs.

https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-role-of-gpa-in-uva-admission-review.html

How can there be a trend when everyone has over a 4.0?

Read the PP posts here. It's all relative. For the most part, your DC is competing against the other DCs in their high school. Even if your entire high school ha over 4.0, if your DC has good trends compared to other applicants from your high school, that's good. UVA has enough data from the schools to figure this out.

Trying to compare applicants in different school systems (Loudoun v. Fairfax v. Arlington) is a mug's game.

+1. Due to grade inflation and APs, the "trend" has shifted upward. Now the entering class at UVA has a 4.51 at the 75th percentile; a 4.38 at the median; and a 4.20 at the bottom 25th percebtile

I definitely wouldn’t apply unless you have a 4.3

unless hooked perhaps. 4.3+ and in top
6% of class having taken the most rigorous coursework offered

Where did the 6% number come from? Are you guessing based on scattergrams or did UVA say this somewhere?

[Anonymous]

It doesn’t matter. If you are not getting all As in extreme rigor. Don’t bother.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t matter. If you are not getting all As in extreme rigor. Don’t bother.

You are stupid and wrong, shut up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t matter. If you are not getting all As in extreme rigor. Don’t bother.

Yes, how the AOs determine rigor is completely school-specific.

A 4.3 weighted GPA in FCPS would typically have 9-12 APs, demonstrating the rigor. But DC doesn't need to have all As to get that wGPA. My DC, former FCPS, now UVA first year, had a 4.3 wGPA with 3 Bs. FCPS doesn't rank, but at commencement, about 20% of the class graduated with honors, meaning that they had 4.0 wGPA or higher.

But in a different school with fewer APs, or different timings of when APs are available, and a different weighting system, the expected wGPA for a reasonable opportunity to get in will be different.