Haverford / Nescacs

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Anonymous wrote:Visit Haverford before making any kind of commitment. It's tiny. And although it has an extensive wooded area on its edges, the main part of the campus is very small. It's pretty, but my son said he would go out of his mind if stuck there for four years. It went from high on the list to being taken off the list.

My son had the same reaction. Good school, but felt very small. He was also a recruited athlete, which may have been a better experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree with pps above. Def ABOVE Wes and Tufts.
Much smaller as well. Not easier to get in compared to both of those. And depending on the nescac definitely not easier to get into (Conn college for ex).

Track and field esp for men has an incredible reputation. No formal recruiting but definitely helps.

so does this mean a superlative track athlete could get a lift? but not similar to a nescac slot?

Yes to this. I don't understand the second questions.

sorry - meant is it similar to a nescac slot? interesting with no football how any “slots” get allocated -for instance - how many for a sport like cross country, which is arguably their best sport? Williams coach told my older kid (HS 2020) that he needed a 1500 for a slot. Do coaches have flexibility for their top picks?

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Anonymous wrote:Visit Haverford before making any kind of commitment. It's tiny. And although it has an extensive wooded area on its edges, the main part of the campus is very small. It's pretty, but my son said he would go out of his mind if stuck there for four years. It went from high on the list to being taken off the list.

Does DC have no like...fun? Just seems wild to me that someone couldn't factor in the massive easy transportation to Philly benefits

That’s not a good proxy…having to commute into Philly is a pain and realistically you aren’t doing that more than once per month.

If you want to be in a city, you want to be in a city…not 20 miles outside a city.

It's 20 minutes not 20 miles.

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Anonymous wrote:Visit Haverford before making any kind of commitment. It's tiny. And although it has an extensive wooded area on its edges, the main part of the campus is very small. It's pretty, but my son said he would go out of his mind if stuck there for four years. It went from high on the list to being taken off the list.

The campus is very picturesque and we didn’t find it that small per se but it’s a really small school in terms of the numbers. My DS decided 1200 students was just too small for college even though interested in smaller schools. One cool thing is that almost all freshman - if not all - are in singles.

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My DH went to Haverford and regretted it because it was too small. Spent junior year at bigger school and loved it. Was too late to transfer. It’s also become super woke. Hard to escape and ger diversity of thought.

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Anonymous wrote:My DH went to Haverford and regretted it because it was too small. Spent junior year at bigger school and loved it. Was too late to transfer. It’s also become super woke. Hard to escape and ger diversity of thought.

But he did go into Philly to escape. Had family there.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t remember a time when wes was a WASP level school.

But Wes is strong and has the advantage of being bigger by a meaningful amount over other SLACs. (If I were the president of any slac, I’d work on adding 100-150 kids to every class for next 4 years. Build one more dorm. Everyone would be happier.).

Are you kidding? The Liittle Three has been Wesleyan, Williams, Amherst. A sports rivalry like Ivy. That’s long before people here knew anything. Pomona wasn’t in the conversation. Everyone here is a nouveau arriviste.

Well the nouveau Pomona has way eclipsed Wesleyan to the point that they aren't even in the same ballpark of discussion. Cool and all that Wesleyan has historically been up there, but not being able to maintain that record is pretty embarrassing when Williams and Amherst continue to lead.

Pomona is another college with an administration so scared of the Pro Hamas crowd they needed to leave the school for graduation because protestors were on the stage. No thanks.

They had their graduation in a fancy LA venue and no protestors got into the building. Your lying is gross.

They had to leave campus and have it of campus because protesters were where graduation was supposed to be. That’s my point.

How awful for those students, they got a million dollar venue for their graduation instead of a lawn they walk passed every day

The point is the administration gave into the student mob. Pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:DC rising junior athlete with strong interest in several nescacs, and will def be recruitable with sports, and hopefully grades / scores. How does Haverford compare - social and academic? in terms of tiering, would it fit in below middlebury but above wes/tufts? do they recruit (non helmet sport) like the nescacs? any lift (slot or tip?$

I think Haverford is in line with Middlebury and above Wesleyan and Tufts. Amazing school with great athletic program. It’s small but the consortium really makes it feel much larger; almost every student takes courses at the other campuses. DS was planning to ED2 there but was accepted elsewhere ED1. Biggest drawback for him was the location. He absolutely loved everything else about Haverford.

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Anonymous wrote:Visit Haverford before making any kind of commitment. It's tiny. And although it has an extensive wooded area on its edges, the main part of the campus is very small. It's pretty, but my son said he would go out of his mind if stuck there for four years. It went from high on the list to being taken off the list.

Does DC have no like...fun? Just seems wild to me that someone couldn't factor in the massive easy transportation to Philly benefits

That’s not a good proxy…having to commute into Philly is a pain and realistically you aren’t doing that more than once per month.

If you want to be in a city, you want to be in a city…not 20 miles outside a city.

It's 20 minutes not 20 miles.

Who cares…again, if you want to be in a city you want to be in a city. Heck, UMD is much closer to DC than that but I don’t know many people that talk all that much about heading into DC.

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Anonymous wrote:My DH went to Haverford and regretted it because it was too small. Spent junior year at bigger school and loved it. Was too late to transfer. It’s also become super woke. Hard to escape and ger diversity of thought.

Don't go if you value independent thought. Great place for super woke sheep. Makes Oberlin look conservative. Not kidding; not exaggerating. Lots of highly publicized wokeness at Haverford.

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i have one athlete at Wes, and it is pretty suffocating for athletes - unless they have other interests like film, theatre, music, etc. (haha, they all should, but reality is different). Athletes are basically scorned there - and i’m not exaggerating- is Haverford similar, being so woke?

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Anonymous wrote:Visit Haverford before making any kind of commitment. It's tiny. And although it has an extensive wooded area on its edges, the main part of the campus is very small. It's pretty, but my son said he would go out of his mind if stuck there for four years. It went from high on the list to being taken off the list.

Does DC have no like...fun? Just seems wild to me that someone couldn't factor in the massive easy transportation to Philly benefits

That’s not a good proxy…having to commute into Philly is a pain and realistically you aren’t doing that more than once per month.

If you want to be in a city, you want to be in a city…not 20 miles outside a city.

It's 20 minutes not 20 miles.

Who cares…again, if you want to be in a city you want to be in a city. Heck, UMD is much closer to DC than that but I don’t know many people that talk all that much about heading into DC.

Whatever

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I went to one of the trico schools and did not consider Haverford for my Jewish son. They are currently being sued and from what I’ve read of the lawsuit, it has merit.

To give you a flavor, at the last plenary, all students were handed Palestinian flags as they walked in the door. It’s not an easy place to be if you don’t align perfectly with the prevailing political ideology.

But if you do align with it, and aren’t bothered by the lack of diversity, it’s a decent school.

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not having a football team probably tones down any potential sports culture at the school tremendously - the divides at these schools usually come from a meathead assumption for football players (not saying it’s right or wrong) at the SLACs. Looks like haverford still has the lax bros, which are kinda the equivalent, but still..

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t remember a time when wes was a WASP level school.

But Wes is strong and has the advantage of being bigger by a meaningful amount over other SLACs. (If I were the president of any slac, I’d work on adding 100-150 kids to every class for next 4 years. Build one more dorm. Everyone would be happier.).

Are you kidding? The Liittle Three has been Wesleyan, Williams, Amherst. A sports rivalry like Ivy. That’s long before people here knew anything. Pomona wasn’t in the conversation. Everyone here is a nouveau arriviste.

Well the nouveau Pomona has way eclipsed Wesleyan to the point that they aren't even in the same ballpark of discussion. Cool and all that Wesleyan has historically been up there, but not being able to maintain that record is pretty embarrassing when Williams and Amherst continue to lead.

Pomona is another college with an administration so scared of the Pro Hamas crowd they needed to leave the school for graduation because protestors were on the stage. No thanks.

They had their graduation in a fancy LA venue and no protestors got into the building. Your lying is gross.

They had to leave campus and have it of campus because protesters were where graduation was supposed to be. That’s my point.

How awful for those students, they got a million dollar venue for their graduation instead of a lawn they walk passed every day :roll:

The point is the administration gave into the student mob. Pathetic.

What do you want them to do? Align a military squad along the sides of the quad? They already arrested the troublesome students, and the week before ALUMNI were protesting the school in massive numbers. It wasn’t some unpopular idea- the student body along with those who graduated recognize it as genocide. Tough luck, but it isn’t a conservative school.