Haverford / Nescacs

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t remember a time when wes was a WASP level school.

But Wes is strong and has the advantage of being bigger by a meaningful amount over other SLACs. (If I were the president of any slac, I’d work on adding 100-150 kids to every class for next 4 years. Build one more dorm. Everyone would be happier.).

Are you kidding? The Liittle Three has been Wesleyan, Williams, Amherst. A sports rivalry like Ivy. That’s long before people here knew anything. Pomona wasn’t in the conversation. Everyone here is a nouveau arriviste.

Well the nouveau Pomona has way eclipsed Wesleyan to the point that they aren't even in the same ballpark of discussion. Cool and all that Wesleyan has historically been up there, but not being able to maintain that record is pretty embarrassing when Williams and Amherst continue to lead.

Pomona is another college with an administration so scared of the Pro Hamas crowd they needed to leave the school for graduation because protestors were on the stage. No thanks.

They had their graduation in a fancy LA venue and no protestors got into the building. Your lying is gross.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd say above Wes-they are doing terribly these days and don't have the prestige they used to, not totally sure when the fall started. But definitely beneath Tufts.

This is such a weird assertion. Wes is tied with middlebury in the US News rankings.

You’d think it wasn’t weird if you knew that Wes used to be ranked next to Williams and Amherst bud

Are you sure about that? Or were Wes, Williams, and Amherst just referred to as “The Little Three” because of athletic competition? Regardless, the idea that Wesleyan is “doing terribly these days” is very stupid.

Well, the Ivy league is only an athletic league in origin as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Williams and Amherst have a bunch of Wall Street bound economics majors. That’s all the money grabbers here care about.

That's how you keep your prestige up amongst white collar professionals. I hate to say it, but it's just the game, and people are only mad when it isn't their turn.

[Anonymous]

Visit Haverford before making any kind of commitment. It's tiny. And although it has an extensive wooded area on its edges, the main part of the campus is very small. It's pretty, but my son said he would go out of his mind if stuck there for four years. It went from high on the list to being taken off the list.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t remember a time when wes was a WASP level school.

But Wes is strong and has the advantage of being bigger by a meaningful amount over other SLACs. (If I were the president of any slac, I’d work on adding 100-150 kids to every class for next 4 years. Build one more dorm. Everyone would be happier.).

Are you kidding? The Liittle Three has been Wesleyan, Williams, Amherst. A sports rivalry like Ivy. That’s long before people here knew anything. Pomona wasn’t in the conversation. Everyone here is a nouveau arriviste.

Well the nouveau Pomona has way eclipsed Wesleyan to the point that they aren't even in the same ballpark of discussion. Cool and all that Wesleyan has historically been up there, but not being able to maintain that record is pretty embarrassing when Williams and Amherst continue to lead.

Pomona is another college with an administration so scared of the Pro Hamas crowd they needed to leave the school for graduation because protestors were on the stage. No thanks.

They had their graduation in a fancy LA venue and no protestors got into the building. Your lying is gross.

They had to leave campus and have it of campus because protesters were where graduation was supposed to be. That’s my point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t remember a time when wes was a WASP level school.

But Wes is strong and has the advantage of being bigger by a meaningful amount over other SLACs. (If I were the president of any slac, I’d work on adding 100-150 kids to every class for next 4 years. Build one more dorm. Everyone would be happier.).

Are you kidding? The Liittle Three has been Wesleyan, Williams, Amherst. A sports rivalry like Ivy. That’s long before people here knew anything. Pomona wasn’t in the conversation. Everyone here is a nouveau arriviste.

Well the nouveau Pomona has way eclipsed Wesleyan to the point that they aren't even in the same ballpark of discussion. Cool and all that Wesleyan has historically been up there, but not being able to maintain that record is pretty embarrassing when Williams and Amherst continue to lead.

Pomona is another college with an administration so scared of the Pro Hamas crowd they needed to leave the school for graduation because protestors were on the stage. No thanks.

They had their graduation in a fancy LA venue and no protestors got into the building. Your lying is gross.

They had to leave campus and have it of campus because protesters were where graduation was supposed to be. That’s my point.

How awful for those students, they got a million dollar venue for their graduation instead of a lawn they walk passed every day

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Visit Haverford before making any kind of commitment. It's tiny. And although it has an extensive wooded area on its edges, the main part of the campus is very small. It's pretty, but my son said he would go out of his mind if stuck there for four years. It went from high on the list to being taken off the list.

Does DC have no like...fun? Just seems wild to me that someone couldn't factor in the massive easy transportation to Philly benefits

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t remember a time when wes was a WASP level school.

But Wes is strong and has the advantage of being bigger by a meaningful amount over other SLACs. (If I were the president of any slac, I’d work on adding 100-150 kids to every class for next 4 years. Build one more dorm. Everyone would be happier.).

Are you kidding? The Liittle Three has been Wesleyan, Williams, Amherst. A sports rivalry like Ivy. That’s long before people here knew anything. Pomona wasn’t in the conversation. Everyone here is a nouveau arriviste.

Well the nouveau Pomona has way eclipsed Wesleyan to the point that they aren't even in the same ballpark of discussion. Cool and all that Wesleyan has historically been up there, but not being able to maintain that record is pretty embarrassing when Williams and Amherst continue to lead.

Pomona is another college with an administration so scared of the Pro Hamas crowd they needed to leave the school for graduation because protestors were on the stage. No thanks.

They had their graduation in a fancy LA venue and no protestors got into the building. Your lying is gross.

They had to leave campus and have it of campus because protesters were where graduation was supposed to be. That’s my point.

How awful for those students, they got a million dollar venue for their graduation instead of a lawn they walk passed every day

NP. PP is making good points, and you’re blowing them off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t remember a time when wes was a WASP level school.

But Wes is strong and has the advantage of being bigger by a meaningful amount over other SLACs. (If I were the president of any slac, I’d work on adding 100-150 kids to every class for next 4 years. Build one more dorm. Everyone would be happier.).

Are you kidding? The Liittle Three has been Wesleyan, Williams, Amherst. A sports rivalry like Ivy. That’s long before people here knew anything. Pomona wasn’t in the conversation. Everyone here is a nouveau arriviste.

Well the nouveau Pomona has way eclipsed Wesleyan to the point that they aren't even in the same ballpark of discussion. Cool and all that Wesleyan has historically been up there, but not being able to maintain that record is pretty embarrassing when Williams and Amherst continue to lead.

Pomona is another college with an administration so scared of the Pro Hamas crowd they needed to leave the school for graduation because protestors were on the stage. No thanks.

They had their graduation in a fancy LA venue and no protestors got into the building. Your lying is gross.

They had to leave campus and have it of campus because protesters were where graduation was supposed to be. That’s my point.

How awful for those students, they got a million dollar venue for their graduation instead of a lawn they walk passed every day

NP. PP is making good points, and you’re blowing them off.

What more is there to say. The college clearly handled the situation well, and the PP lied about what happened on graduation date. I think it's gross that people like this spend wild narratives just to "own the libs" when there's much more to discuss.

[Anonymous]

“ for a long time, Pomona wasn’t that serious of a college”

When was that, the 1950s? 🙄

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“ for a long time, Pomona wasn’t that serious of a college”

When was that, the 1950s? 🙄

People keep on parroting that line and emphasizing that Pomona is "young," but it has been elite my entire fifty year old life. It was founded a few years before UChicago and only two decades after Swarthmore. These people must've been through the civil war.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC rising junior athlete with strong interest in several nescacs, and will def be recruitable with sports, and hopefully grades / scores. How does Haverford compare - social and academic? in terms of tiering, would it fit in below middlebury but above wes/tufts? do they recruit (non helmet sport) like the nescacs? any lift (slot or tip?$

To get back to the original question - I do know two baseball players who were "recruited" by Haverford. They were in the same high school class year and played on the same travel team - my DS played on the same travel team with them. Player #1 was told by the coach he had one of his guaranteed slots. Player #2 was told by the coach that IF he was admitted on his own accord, he had a spot on the team. Typically, most coaches want 7 or 8 guys per year, but the Haverford coach told Player #2 that he only got a couple of slots and the rest of his players had to get through admissions on their own merit. Both players were admitted and are on the team. Both are starters and get significant playing time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Visit Haverford before making any kind of commitment. It's tiny. And although it has an extensive wooded area on its edges, the main part of the campus is very small. It's pretty, but my son said he would go out of his mind if stuck there for four years. It went from high on the list to being taken off the list.

Does DC have no like...fun? Just seems wild to me that someone couldn't factor in the massive easy transportation to Philly benefits

That’s not a good proxy…having to commute into Philly is a pain and realistically you aren’t doing that more than once per month.

If you want to be in a city, you want to be in a city…not 20 miles outside a city.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC rising junior athlete with strong interest in several nescacs, and will def be recruitable with sports, and hopefully grades / scores. How does Haverford compare - social and academic? in terms of tiering, would it fit in below middlebury but above wes/tufts? do they recruit (non helmet sport) like the nescacs? any lift (slot or tip?$

To get back to the original question - I do know two baseball players who were "recruited" by Haverford. They were in the same high school class year and played on the same travel team - my DS played on the same travel team with them. Player #1 was told by the coach he had one of his guaranteed slots. Player #2 was told by the coach that IF he was admitted on his own accord, he had a spot on the team. Typically, most coaches want 7 or 8 guys per year, but the Haverford coach told Player #2 that he only got a couple of slots and the rest of his players had to get through admissions on their own merit. Both players were admitted and are on the team. Both are starters and get significant playing time.

Comports with what my baseball player kid was told (would have gotten one of the guaranteed slots).

This may not matter at all to most, but the league is a little quirky…you play Swarthmore, Ursinus, Gettysburg, Washington College (MD)…no real rivalries other than Swarthmore and kind of random.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's that worthwhile to rank them--it's not the same kids who want to go to Tufts. Haverford is very small (1400 students) and the Quaker influence is strong.

Middlebury is basically twice the size. Tufts is 4x, almost 5x as big.

Haverford is very personal, many faculty live on campus, good for PhD preparation. I know lots of successful people who went there. But I don't think there is tons of crossover with Middlebury (just a perception, could be wrong).

what percent of students do you think are quaker at Haverford? a very insignificant amount lol

The school's strong social justice orientation, honor code, and consensus-based decisionmaking style are all rooted in Quakerism. I think the influence is fairly pervasive, even though of course most students aren't Quaker:

https://www.haverford.edu/quaker-affairs

This was my impression as well.