Sorry my link got lost. Here's his linked in. https://www.linkedin.com/in/stroudtom/?originalSubdomain=uk |
I agree Tom shouldn't have dissed Maria's job. But I think the underlying issue is probably that she'd be a SAHM as soon as they had a kid, given that she probably doesn't earn enough to justify daycare. I'm too am glad Demi stood up for her own needs. I don't think Ollie is a bad guy at all. I just got the feeling that he's into looks. Demi said herself that she had to up her clothing game for him, because she usually hung around in sweatpants. So I could see him down the road asking her, "do you really want that ice cream?" |
| I just want it noted for the record that I thought it was shitty that Cat and Freddie were wearing sweats and t-shirts when Cat's parents came over to their apartment. They should have dressed nicer. |
So he's a commications/pr consultant. That could go either way money-wise. He could be like any number of entrepreneurs and consultants who are barely making ends meet, but then again his clients have included sports and McDonalds. Even if he does have a big income, though, that doesn't mean he necessarily needs to be on board with supporting her financially and emotionally. Even if that's what her father did for her. He may want more of an equal partnership. |
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Statement from jasmines mom on how she came across:
https://thetab.com/uk/2024/08/21/jasmine-mum-marisa-statement-bobby-love-is-blind-uk-382022 |
Oh I didnt know she lives in the Philippines, that should help with boundaries for sure. I can't quite place my finger on the Ollie thing. I don't dislike him, but I don't like him either. It just always felt like she had to make excuses for their interactions/her behaviour while they were out. I think initially she didn't feel good enough for him - and that's where some of that neediness and desperation came from. She was always worried he'd find someone else more suited, and her behaviour changed when they were around other people. Maybe she thought he was settling for her, because she was insecure? Maybe now with her newfound confidence she will be able to find someone she doesnt feel like is settling? I'm not sure. I'm interested to see the reunion and where they ended up. |
I can see that for Tom/Maria. I also always think it's a bad sign when the parents don't want to come to the wedding. For Demi, I replied to another pp, that it always seemed like she thought he was too good for her, so I'm hoping she doesn't think that anymore and has confidence out the wazoo! |
| Thanks goodness Freddie said no. And what a gentleman, talking to her parents afterwards. Catherine just acted like a brat. |
Freddie's job involves handling people at their emotionally most challenging moments. He's got this. |
So, sorry not sorry? At least she did sort of apologize for calling Bobby uneducated. |
He really was so good. |
| Cat acts like she’s 12. |
Yeah pretty much. And the irony of someone with multiple failed marriages trying to decide what's best for someone elses romantic life is just too much. |
It was a mensch move on his part. |
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No surprises on outcomes other than I thought Ollie would say no. I hope he and Demi can make it work. I think Freddie and Cat and Tom and Maria don’t and shouldn’t try further.
Disliked Freddie’s earrings letter but agree that could have been forced, or they had him do it before they separated pre wedding. In general what NICE people all around. Cat was the brattiest but if she’d been on the some of the US seasons would have been the nicest. |