ED1 to Chicago

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone is trying to figure out how to game theory college admissions these days. Obviously, ED is a huge factor for top students and the schools that want them. This is where most decisions are made - for better or worse.

HYPSM do not participate in ED or SCEA for otherwise unhooked students. So those five schools are not part of any conversation when it comes to strategy for high performing students these days. Ignore them. Only throw an app their way in RD. If a top student, however, is interested in Chicago, Duke, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, or Penn it really, really behooves them to apply ED to their chosen school. The RD acceptance rates at these schools is negligible. ED is typically the only way an otherwise unhooked student might gain acceptance to schools of that caliber. Otherwise, it's chaos, chance, and total unpredictability in the RD round for the very selective schools.

Agree w/you. Sorry to hijack, but a question.

Question for you on Cornell ED vs Vanderbilt ED: (Sibling current student/legacy at Cornell and aunt/uncle legacy at Vanderbilt).

Kid likes both - going back to Cornell in fall while school is in session to confirm fit.

Last year, I thought Cornell reduced their ED admit %? Is there less benefit to ED at Cornell now? Note, sibling was admitted to Cornell RD fwiw.

Any advice for this kid?

Assume similar majors/good fit to major etc. And kid wants Greek life/sorority and some school spirit/on campus festive vibe.

Check the admissions data over the past three years from your high school first. My sense is that Vanderbilt is a more difficult admit from the DMV than Cornell - except possibly Dyson. Aunt/Uncle is very unlikely to confer a legacy bump. But a sibling will likely help - unless sibling is a problem student. But I suspect all things being equal Cornell is the wiser choice for ED.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone is trying to figure out how to game theory college admissions these days. Obviously, ED is a huge factor for top students and the schools that want them. This is where most decisions are made - for better or worse.

HYPSM do not participate in ED or SCEA for otherwise unhooked students. So those five schools are not part of any conversation when it comes to strategy for high performing students these days. Ignore them. Only throw an app their way in RD. If a top student, however, is interested in Chicago, Duke, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, or Penn it really, really behooves them to apply ED to their chosen school. The RD acceptance rates at these schools is negligible. ED is typically the only way an otherwise unhooked student might gain acceptance to schools of that caliber. Otherwise, it's chaos, chance, and total unpredictability in the RD round for the very selective schools.

Agree w/you. Sorry to hijack, but a question.

Question for you on Cornell ED vs Vanderbilt ED: (Sibling current student/legacy at Cornell and aunt/uncle legacy at Vanderbilt).

Kid likes both - going back to Cornell in fall while school is in session to confirm fit.

Last year, I thought Cornell reduced their ED admit %? Is there less benefit to ED at Cornell now? Note, sibling was admitted to Cornell RD fwiw.

Any advice for this kid?

Assume similar majors/good fit to major etc. And kid wants Greek life/sorority and some school spirit/on campus festive vibe.

Check the admissions data over the past three years from your high school first. My sense is that Vanderbilt is a more difficult admit from the DMV than Cornell - except possibly Dyson. Aunt/Uncle is very unlikely to confer a legacy bump. But a sibling will likely help - unless sibling is a problem student. But I suspect all things being equal Cornell is the wiser choice for ED.

Thx. This is helpful and I tend to agree.

[Anonymous]

For which of these schools does ED not confer a real advantage:

Chicago, Duke, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Cornell, Rice, or Penn?

[Anonymous]

Mediocre academics but coasting on high IQ + a quirky sport or instrument + full pay = UChicago ED1..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mediocre academics but coasting on high IQ + a quirky sport or instrument + full pay = UChicago ED1..

Is that your DC, PP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mediocre academics but coasting on high IQ + a quirky sport or instrument + full pay = UChicago ED1..

lol. How quaint. Arguably THE MOST rigorous academic school in the world somehow wants students mediocre in academics.

I'd like some of what you are smoking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mediocre academics but coasting on high IQ + a quirky sport or instrument + full pay = UChicago ED1..

lol. How quaint. Arguably THE MOST rigorous academic school in the world somehow wants students mediocre in academics.

I'd like some of what you are smoking.

I’m a fan of UChicago, but I think MIT just said “hold my beer”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mediocre academics but coasting on high IQ + a quirky sport or instrument + full pay = UChicago ED1..

lol. How quaint. Arguably THE MOST rigorous academic school in the world somehow wants students mediocre in academics.

I'd like some of what you are smoking.

I’m a fan of UChicago, but I think MIT just said “hold my beer” :-)

MIT grad here. I think of Chicago as the equivalent of MIT for social sciences/ humanities :)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mediocre academics but coasting on high IQ + a quirky sport or instrument + full pay = UChicago ED1..

lol. How quaint. Arguably THE MOST rigorous academic school in the world somehow wants students mediocre in academics.

I'd like some of what you are smoking.

I’m a fan of UChicago, but I think MIT just said “hold my beer” :-)

MIT grad here. I think of Chicago as the equivalent of MIT for social sciences/ humanities :)

Your must be an MIT grad to so over-inflate MIT’s humanities prestige: stay in your lane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mediocre academics but coasting on high IQ + a quirky sport or instrument + full pay = UChicago ED1..

lol. How quaint. Arguably THE MOST rigorous academic school in the world somehow wants students mediocre in academics.

I'd like some of what you are smoking.

I’m a fan of UChicago, but I think MIT just said “hold my beer” :-)

MIT grad here. I think of Chicago as the equivalent of MIT for social sciences/ humanities :)

Your must be an MIT grad to so over-inflate MIT’s humanities prestige: stay in your lane.

That was my point: Chicago is as rigorous in social sciences and humanities as MIT is in sciences and engineering. They attract students with different interests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mediocre academics but coasting on high IQ + a quirky sport or instrument + full pay = UChicago ED1..

lol. How quaint. Arguably THE MOST rigorous academic school in the world somehow wants students mediocre in academics.

I'd like some of what you are smoking.

I’m a fan of UChicago, but I think MIT just said “hold my beer”

UChicago Math/Econ beats MIT - UChicago let freshmen start with intermediate economics and honors analysis freshman year

[Anonymous]

1560 STEM kid, all rigor and straight As, quirky AF.

Applied RD and not even waitlisted.

ED is the only way to go for Chicago these days.

[Anonymous]

Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like for many of the top schools, they stuff their class with ED applicants thereby making their yield look better. With their yield off the charts, their acceptance ratea plummet thereby making the school more attractive to the TikTok generation, driving ED apps, creating a cycle of impossibility.

In 2005 UCicago's acceptance rate was 40%!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like for many of the top schools, they stuff their class with ED applicants thereby making their yield look better. With their yield off the charts, their acceptance ratea plummet thereby making the school more attractive to the TikTok generation, driving ED apps, creating a cycle of impossibility.

In 2005 UCicago's acceptance rate was 40%!!!!!

In 2005, UChicago was not accessible through the Common App which means there were less applicants to the school and they were more self selective (have you seen their essay prompts?). The real culprit to these ridiculously low acceptance rates is the Common App which makes it easy to apply to 20 schools at a time and therefore inflates the number of applicants to these highly selective schools. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like for many of the top schools, they stuff their class with ED applicants thereby making their yield look better. With their yield off the charts, their acceptance ratea plummet thereby making the school more attractive to the TikTok generation, driving ED apps, creating a cycle of impossibility.

In 2005 UCicago's acceptance rate was 40%!!!!!

In 2005, UChicago was not accessible through the Common App which means there were less applicants to the school and they were more self selective (have you seen their essay prompts?). The real culprit to these ridiculously low acceptance rates is the Common App which makes it easy to apply to 20 schools at a time and therefore inflates the number of applicants to these highly selective schools. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Harvard's acceptance rate in 2005 was 10%.