Rivian R1s

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Anonymous wrote:I have a friend with one and she loves it. I have 2 teslas and chose them over the rivian because of the lack of charging network. I take the teslas on long road trips (1500 miles round trip) a couple of times a year and didn’t want to deal with the headache of charging a rivian.

Good thing you can now charge Rivians at most Tesla superchargers, with an adapter.

Non teslas get upcharged or have to pay a $13 monthly membership fee to get Tesla pricing. I don’t supercharge expect on road trips and wouldn’t want to pay the monthly fee. The upcharge is not great.

If you don’t supercharge except on road trips, the yearly additional cost is minimal.

I meant that I have a Tesla and only supercharge on road trips. So I wouldn’t want to pay $13 a month to charge a rivian at Tesla prices during months when I don’t use it. And I don’t want to be up charged when I go on long road trips. I want to pay the least amount possible for charging, which is why I have solar and have a Tesla that doesn't get up charged.

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Anonymous wrote:Tires on these are insanely expensive and if you're not careful they need replacing in as few as 10k-15k miles. It's nuts.

10-15k miles? Source? Also what does “careful” look like?

I'm not the PP nor a Rivian owner but it's a 8500lb car with 550-850 horsepower. It's just physics, if you drive it spiritedly it's going to go through tires pretty quickly.

What components make it this heavy, from an engineering standpoint? I have a heavy 4x4 SUV, but it’s nowhere near this heavy, and it does go through tires more quickly.

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Anonymous wrote:Tires on these are insanely expensive and if you're not careful they need replacing in as few as 10k-15k miles. It's nuts.

10-15k miles? Source? Also what does “careful” look like?

I'm not the PP nor a Rivian owner but it's a 8500lb car with 550-850 horsepower. It's just physics, if you drive it spiritedly it's going to go through tires pretty quickly.

What components make it this heavy, from an engineering standpoint? I have a heavy 4x4 SUV, but it’s nowhere near this heavy, and it does go through tires more quickly.

The battery.

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Anonymous wrote:Tires on these are insanely expensive and if you're not careful they need replacing in as few as 10k-15k miles. It's nuts.

10-15k miles? Source? Also what does “careful” look like?

I'm not the PP nor a Rivian owner but it's a 8500lb car with 550-850 horsepower. It's just physics, if you drive it spiritedly it's going to go through tires pretty quickly.

Ok but what’s the source on 10-15k miles?

Rivian forums. It's a very common issue on Rivians and Teslas.

Not every 10-15k. Cite it or shut up.

You are cordially invited to superglue your pie hole shut.

https://www.carscoops.com/2023/08/rivian-owners-are-going-through-tires-in-as-little-as-6000-miles/
https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/tire-wear.18227/
https://www.rivianownersforum.com/threads/rivian-tires-are-wearing-out-in-as-little-as-6-000-miles.6093/

So, rivians have a special optional “tire eating” mode. Turn that off and you’ll get a more normal EV tire range of 25k. FWIW, my EV got 30k on first set of tires.

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Anonymous wrote:About 18 months in with our R1S. It's a fantastic vehicle, and the software updates continue to further simplify the controls and more importantly, improve the ride. The ride has been dramatically improved with multiple software updates. Vehicle weight requiring frequent tire replacement is def a downside, I replaced mine at 23k (and ditched the Pirellis, there are better replacement options). I've been lucky, only a minor window issue so far, but service appointments can take time.

I don’t understand how this is even possible, because it’s the same components in the suspension as it came from the factory with. You’re changing software, not the springs, struts, shocks and dampers. Those are all mechanical items and they have a finite amount of adjustment, if any adjustment at all.

I have a race car. I can change my suspension settings with adjustability in the components. I can increase or decrease spring rates by swapping springs, I can limit or increase travel by adjusting links and bump stops. But all this involves putting a wrench on something and turning it or swapping a part. I have one suspension for Summit Point and another for VIR and Pocono. But each involves removing and replacing parts.

I can conceive of adjustable suspensions for different ride modes - comfort, sport, eco, ect - that typically change the shock damping rates or ride height. Range Rover has a system that does this. And if this is what Rivian is doing - simply changing ride modes - then why the hell did they release the vehicle before those different modes were ready? Are they letting the customers be the beta test for suspension settings? Because that’s outrageous. And dangerous.

As someone who just added an updated aftermarket suspension controller (look up DSC controller) to my old 2005 911, I can tell you that on active suspension setups, proframming can make a huge difference. Electronicaly adjustable damping can be changed by the millisecond, it really is astounding - even when just adding it to an old car. Its crazy that it can now eat bad city pavement while having zero dive, squat and body roll. I can literallyndrive it around town all day in sport mode. It will also take hard mid corner bumps without unsettling the car.

I’d imagine that with modern pneumatic suspenion setups (not sure is R1S has air ride or some equivalent) with ride height adjustibility on the fly, the suspension can do an even better job of being the right suspension at the right time.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Tires on these are insanely expensive and if you're not careful they need replacing in as few as 10k-15k miles. It's nuts.

10-15k miles? Source? Also what does “careful” look like?

I'm not the PP nor a Rivian owner but it's a 8500lb car with 550-850 horsepower. It's just physics, if you drive it spiritedly it's going to go through tires pretty quickly.

Ok but what’s the source on 10-15k miles?

Rivian forums. It's a very common issue on Rivians and Teslas.

Not every 10-15k. Cite it or shut up.

You are cordially invited to superglue your pie hole shut.

https://www.carscoops.com/2023/08/rivian-owners-are-going-through-tires-in-as-little-as-6000-miles/
https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/tire-wear.18227/
https://www.rivianownersforum.com/threads/rivian-tires-are-wearing-out-in-as-little-as-6-000-miles.6093/

I don't know why your response to that person was so hostile but rapid tire wear seems to only be an issue if you leave "Conserve" mode on all the time