Rivian R1s

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Do folks have any first hand knowledge about the R1S?

How is service in general for Rivian?

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

I think they look so cool, especially the generation II 2025 model year.

I think they just copied the styling cues from a Jeep Wagoneer.

If anything, it was the opposite - Jeep copied Rivians cues.

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Anonymous wrote:The worst thing to happen to Rivian is having to part ways with Ford. Instead, the are tying up with Volkswagen because if anyone knows the American truck market, it’s VW.

Don’t listen to this guy… Rivian isn’t trying to benefit from these relationships in any way other than needing cash as they grow. Ford, now VW, are interested in Rivians software stack for operating electric vehicles. It’s very complicated to develop this tech and the investment can make a lot more sense than doing your own R&D. Rivian’s EV stack is great (their autonomy stack is not though, it’s way behind Tesla, Mercedes, etc).

Rivians are marvelous vehicles. They are well engineered and built like tanks. A lot of the early kinks have been worked out. Yes they are heavy (all EVs are) and you have to replace tires more often (~25k like someone else said) but that is about the only maintenance cost for EVs, and you do get charging/fuel savings after accounting for the L2 charger home install (break even is typically between 18mo and 2 yrs but depends on how much you drive).

How is that the only maintenance cost? Being a heavy vehicle, doesn't it go through brakes faster, too? Is it impossible for the suspension to fail?

Because Rivians (and most EVs) use regenerative braking, the wear on brake pads is less than a regular car, although eventually they will also need replacement. Sure the suspension or anything else could fail like on your regular car, but a lot of that would be under warranty. On a day-to-day basis, EVs have lower/no maintenance costs on things like regular oil changes.

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Anonymous wrote:The worst thing to happen to Rivian is having to part ways with Ford. Instead, the are tying up with Volkswagen because if anyone knows the American truck market, it’s VW.

Don’t listen to this guy… Rivian isn’t trying to benefit from these relationships in any way other than needing cash as they grow. Ford, now VW, are interested in Rivians software stack for operating electric vehicles. It’s very complicated to develop this tech and the investment can make a lot more sense than doing your own R&D. Rivian’s EV stack is great (their autonomy stack is not though, it’s way behind Tesla, Mercedes, etc).

Rivians are marvelous vehicles. They are well engineered and built like tanks. A lot of the early kinks have been worked out. Yes they are heavy (all EVs are) and you have to replace tires more often (~25k like someone else said) but that is about the only maintenance cost for EVs, and you do get charging/fuel savings after accounting for the L2 charger home install (break even is typically between 18mo and 2 yrs but depends on how much you drive).

How is that the only maintenance cost? Being a heavy vehicle, doesn't it go through brakes faster, too? Is it impossible for the suspension to fail?

Because Rivians (and most EVs) use regenerative braking, the wear on brake pads is less than a regular car, although eventually they will also need replacement. Sure the suspension or anything else could fail like on your regular car, but a lot of that would be under warranty. On a day-to-day basis, EVs have lower/no maintenance costs on things like regular oil changes.

In fact, fewer brake/rotor replacements partially offset the tire wear and tear in a meaningful way.

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Tires on these are insanely expensive and if you're not careful they need replacing in as few as 10k-15k miles. It's nuts.

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Anonymous wrote:Tires on these are insanely expensive and if you're not careful they need replacing in as few as 10k-15k miles. It's nuts.

10-15k miles? Source? Also what does “careful” look like?

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And, I took a look at tire rack… the tires are 250-350 each. Not cheap, but not “insanely” expensive. In line with the cost of the tires I have to put on my full size SUV.

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Anonymous wrote:And, I took a look at tire rack… the tires are 250-350 each. Not cheap, but not “insanely” expensive. In line with the cost of the tires I have to put on my full size SUV.

It depends on the wheel, there are various wheel sizes offered on the R1S. And blowing $1,400+ in a single year on tires is a major expense on a new car.

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Anonymous wrote:Tires on these are insanely expensive and if you're not careful they need replacing in as few as 10k-15k miles. It's nuts.

10-15k miles? Source? Also what does “careful” look like?

I'm not the PP nor a Rivian owner but it's a 8500lb car with 550-850 horsepower. It's just physics, if you drive it spiritedly it's going to go through tires pretty quickly.

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Anonymous wrote:Tires on these are insanely expensive and if you're not careful they need replacing in as few as 10k-15k miles. It's nuts.

10-15k miles? Source? Also what does “careful” look like?

I'm not the PP nor a Rivian owner but it's a 8500lb car with 550-850 horsepower. It's just physics, if you drive it spiritedly it's going to go through tires pretty quickly.

Ok but what’s the source on 10-15k miles?

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Anonymous wrote:Tires on these are insanely expensive and if you're not careful they need replacing in as few as 10k-15k miles. It's nuts.

10-15k miles? Source? Also what does “careful” look like?

I'm not the PP nor a Rivian owner but it's a 8500lb car with 550-850 horsepower. It's just physics, if you drive it spiritedly it's going to go through tires pretty quickly.

Ok but what’s the source on 10-15k miles?

Rivian forums. It's a very common issue on Rivians and Teslas.

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Anonymous wrote:Tires on these are insanely expensive and if you're not careful they need replacing in as few as 10k-15k miles. It's nuts.

10-15k miles? Source? Also what does “careful” look like?

I'm not the PP nor a Rivian owner but it's a 8500lb car with 550-850 horsepower. It's just physics, if you drive it spiritedly it's going to go through tires pretty quickly.

I feel like it would have to wear on brakes more quickly at that weight, too, but the PP above disagrees bc it's an EV.

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My R1T is up to almost 30k and I'm just looking at getting new tires as the road noise is getting annoying.

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Do these remind anyone else of an electric Land Rover vehicle? The styling, the air suspension, the glass roof...aren't they supposed to be off-road capable as well? If you are truly off-roading, though, what if you are not near a charger?

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Anonymous wrote:Tires on these are insanely expensive and if you're not careful they need replacing in as few as 10k-15k miles. It's nuts.

10-15k miles? Source? Also what does “careful” look like?

I'm not the PP nor a Rivian owner but it's a 8500lb car with 550-850 horsepower. It's just physics, if you drive it spiritedly it's going to go through tires pretty quickly.

Ok but what’s the source on 10-15k miles?

Rivian forums. It's a very common issue on Rivians and Teslas.

Not every 10-15k. Cite it or shut up.

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Anonymous wrote:Tires on these are insanely expensive and if you're not careful they need replacing in as few as 10k-15k miles. It's nuts.

10-15k miles? Source? Also what does “careful” look like?

I'm not the PP nor a Rivian owner but it's a 8500lb car with 550-850 horsepower. It's just physics, if you drive it spiritedly it's going to go through tires pretty quickly.

Ok but what’s the source on 10-15k miles?

Rivian forums. It's a very common issue on Rivians and Teslas.

Not every 10-15k. Cite it or shut up.

You are cordially invited to superglue your pie hole shut.

https://www.carscoops.com/2023/08/rivian-owners-are-going-through-tires-in-as-little-as-6000-miles/
https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/tire-wear.18227/
https://www.rivianownersforum.com/threads/rivian-tires-are-wearing-out-in-as-little-as-6-000-miles.6093/