It will definitely be a big change. I will note that increased enrollment tends to be a good thing for middle schools, bc it means that they can hir more teachers and then have differentiated classes. That's why Stuart Hobson, for example, is able to offer Geometry and advanced English classes, and SWWFS is not. So this could be a positive thing. Agree that we need to know more about the details. |
It will very likely be more kids, which I think is why the added capacity from the renovation is being cited as a reason this is even possible. The Edscape data shows very few students coming from those schools for 6th: https://edscape.dc.gov/page/student-enrollment-pathways Fewer than 10 from Seaton and none from the other two schools. Some kids are probably transferring in upper elementary, too—same site would show how many. |
Vast majority of kids transfer in upper elementary, because Cardozo was such a non starter. And that's kids of ALL races and backgrounds, not just wealthy white kids. It's been so sad to watch these cohorts have to break up year after year. |
I'm at one of th feeders and no one in 4th grade is transferring to SWWFS or an FS feeder this year. We are sending kids to charters (Latin, basis and beyond) and to SH feeders and to private. I do believe the remaining class is going to be really excited to go to FS for 6th, though. |
The SWWFS principal was consulted and apparently signed off on this arrangement, and I think this has to be a big part of her reasoning. I’d be less worried about the population jump at the beginning and thinking more about what happens when Euclid opens and the three temporary feeders start sending 6th graders there instead. That could mean pretty substantial enrollment drops for SWWFS over at least three straight years as the final class of the temporary pattern move through, and enrollment/budget drops seem to be a lot harder to manage than gains. That doesn’t make this decision bad (I think it’ll ultimately be good for FS, the feeders, and Euclid all), just something everyone involved needs to think ahead about. |
Tubman has not been improving a lot, and until they get the behaviors under control, I doubt parents will be flocking to a chaotic school just for a middle school option across town with no high school feeder. |
I agree that this will require real preparation, and I’m not sure I trust DCPS to manage that well. Whatever benefits come with larger middle schools, SWWFS is an education campus, not just a middle school, and its population has been split about evenly between elementary and middle school. A significant temporary expansion and then contraction of the middle school is going to have effects on the elementary school too. Again, that’s not to say it’s bad or won’t work—I hope it is successful all around—but it’s not simple. And I wouldn’t take the principal’s “sign-off” as any indication that DCPS has thought about this carefully, or that real choice was offered, but I have no knowledge of that. |
As the parent of a kid who will be at FS middle right after Euclid opens, I share these hopes and concerns. On the one hand, it's great for the feeders that Cardozo MS is closing - it's the kind of school no child should have to attend and it can only help central city remain desirable. It may be wonderful for FS to have all these additional resources and staff, and the support of a parent community who clearly knows how to get things done in DCPS. On the other hand, I liked the idea of a small but diverse middle. FS was just beginning to get more buy-in from Ross families and I wonder if this helps or hurts. And I wonder where all these new FS middle school teachers will come from - Cardozo? Surely there must be some good teachers there, but I imagine there are also many who couldn't find work elsewhere. I know it will be awhile before my kid gets there and there could be a ton of turnover in that time, but I'd like FS to maintain its reputation as a place for strong teachers. I also hope that if this is successful, DCPS doesn't forget about the kids still at FS while it pours resources into Euclid. There aren't many quality middle schools in DC - could DCPS direct another strong elementary school to FS to fill the gap? Give feeder parents a choice between the two schools for a few years to smooth the transition? Find another use for the Euclid building and make this the FS population permanently if it really is working that well? Last one seems very unlikely I know! I really hope they are thinking it through and that the feeder parent communities who had the clout and determination to make this happen won't forget about FS once Euclid opens. |
Agree with all this. I have these exact questions (my kids are currently at a Cardozo feeder, one would be eligible for FS in 6th (but will likely stay at the charter middle he is enrolled at) and the other would be routed to Euclid. But actually I am switching my younger one to an FS feeder, so I'm deeply curious about how this will play out. Will FS improve to the point that it would be appealing to kids who want to take more rigorous classes (will it, for example, start offering Geometry)? Will that go away when the Euclid kids leave and the school shrinks? Will the Cardozo kids have the option to choose FS for two years, and thus my younger kid would be with his old friends again? But will that completely doom Euclid Middle? So many more complications in store for the next few years. |
I’m the current SWWFS parent from above and I’m sure they’ll find strong teachers. Not worried about that at all. |
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Can someone post the text of this letter? Who was it sent to?
I have a MS kid in boundary for Cardozo. Just curious if we suddenly have a viable backup option should we need it. Unclear on what the “phase out” entails… Kids already in MS are stuck with Cardozo as their IB through 8th? |
That's what phase out means -- they will have a 6th, 7th and 8th graders in the next school year, 24-25, but after that no new students (so SY 25-26 will have 7th and 8th graders, SY 26-27 will have 8th graders, and then it will just be a high school). We got the letter from Ferebee through the school principal, we are at a feeder school that is switching. How old is your student? |
| Some of these schools have space in 5th grade right now if anyone (still waitlisted for Latin/Basis etc.) has flexibility and wants to lock SWWFS for middle school. |