Nonhooked Top 15/Ivy Acceptances from DC Area Privates

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Anonymous wrote:Legacy is also tricky. It matters much more at some schools than others and from everything my DC was told during the admissions process, it really only matters for early applications. Additionally, just because a student is a legacy at the school where they matriculate doesn't mean that they didn't get into other T10 schools where they don't have legacy status. I know of several students at my DC's "big 3" who had multiple admissions offers and only one of those offers was from a legacy school.

For us - there were Ivy legacies who were accepted in RD at the legacy school after being deferred at REA (and then WL at RD) to the non-legacy Ivy they applied to.

Some got into high SLACs though.

Usually legacies that were accepted had to also be a very top student or also have VIP or URM.

DP. Vip matters more than legacy. If you have both you are golden.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At our school everyone knew who was a legacy and who was going for sport. The kids strategically structured their early round admissions around those kids, figuring they had an easier chance going for a school that didn't have a likely legacy in the early round.

yep, at these small privates (70-120 kids), everyone knows who is a legacy or an athlete. Because the kids are pretty much friends by senior year and the parents emblazon their linked-in pages or company websites with their own college pedigrees. Legacy status is not information commonly kept close to the chest. There are some kids who float around the periphery and remain more of a mystery but it's nothing like a public school class of 500 where you know absolutely nothing about 350 of your classmates or their college plans.

How dare these boastful parents post their educational histories on their linked in or company "who we are" pages. So distasteful.

+1. Also, how many hours did pp spend checking out the LinkedIn pages of all 120 of her kid's classmates' parents?

[Anonymous]

I don't understand what "knowing" accomplishes. There isn't consistency in who is getting in outside of the top privates to UChicago. And that is only if you consider UChicago a T15 given that only one main ranking org currently puts them there for undergrad. You are not going to get data that would be useful to make an informed "unhooked" decision here. If you are just looking for hope, there are always kids who get into top schools from this area unhooked every year!

[Anonymous]

If you or a relative are able to get on a school's board, that is a great hook (often legacy and VIP, but not always)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand what "knowing" accomplishes. There isn't consistency in who is getting in outside of the top privates to UChicago. And that is only if you consider UChicago a T15 given that only one main ranking org currently puts them there for undergrad. You are not going to get data that would be useful to make an informed "unhooked" decision here. If you are just looking for hope, there are always kids who get into top schools from this area unhooked every year!

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How many nonhooked students at your DC area private school were accepted into top 15/Ivies this year? If willing, please share the name of your school or at least the size of student body and the specific acceptances.

Many top students are not interested in many schools on the top 20 list. They could have gotten in but schools like Chicago and several large public schools in California are not of interest to many kids at top schools. Yes several go but honestly I think some are persuaded by their parents because they want the ranking. I don't think they necessarily are their kids' top choice.

[Anonymous]

There are hooks that are beyond parent legacy, race, athletics (or some other national level award), and VIP. These usually have to do with connections or donations. I wouldn't assume anybody at a DC private is completely unhooked.

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ND, NYU, Cornell (several)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can you define “non-hooked”?

Let's start with this definition: White or Asian kid not recruited for sports.

Did you forget about the SCt decision that said colleges can't make a race a determining factor? So diversity only matters now if you're poor and you can somehow tie that to your race.

[Anonymous]

Wow, what a thread. A basic question, that not a single commenter answered. About 50% of the comments were people insisting that the question shouldn't be asked! No wonder America is falling behind. Imagine this thread in Singapore. No-one would bother complaining about the question, and the question would be fully answered, with data, within an hour.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, what a thread. A basic question, that not a single commenter answered. About 50% of the comments were people insisting that the question shouldn't be asked! No wonder America is falling behind. Imagine this thread in Singapore. No-one would bother complaining about the question, and the question would be fully answered, with data, within an hour.

The data would be flawed because so much would be speculation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, what a thread. A basic question, that not a single commenter answered. About 50% of the comments were people insisting that the question shouldn't be asked! No wonder America is falling behind. Imagine this thread in Singapore. No-one would bother complaining about the question, and the question would be fully answered, with data, within an hour.

+100

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you define “non-hooked”?

Let's start with this definition: White or Asian kid not recruited for sports.

Did you forget about the SCt decision that said colleges can't make a race a determining factor? So diversity only matters now if you're poor and you can somehow tie that to your race.

But then why do colleges want you to write about your background (race)? You really think they aren't noticing making sure they have a "well rounded" class?

[Anonymous]

do you wanna know what a really great hook is that everyone has available to themselves? Early decision. It just requires a lot of sanity that people don’t have because it means you’re happy with your decision in November.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:do you wanna know what a really great hook is that everyone has available to themselves? Early decision. It just requires a lot of sanity that people don’t have because it means you’re happy with your decision in November.

It’s a hook for rich people, not everyone.