Absenteeism at school

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly when mine is doing well and not getting in trouble when she’s skipping, I could care less. If she’s managing her grades then she’s doing her job. If the schools cared, there would be consequences and there aren’t.

As far as influencing other kids, there are countless groups of kids who could potentially influence your kids. Those who do drugs and vape in the hallways. Those who never show up at all and fail. My kid who skips classes but gets all As. Etc. Etc. You just need to teach your kid to do what they need to do to be successful. It’s not my kid’s job to do what your kid needs them to do so your kid can be successful. You’re focusing on the wrong thing.

Yeah. This selfish attitude is why our society is in the toilet and our collective values are being eroded. It's sad.

+1000. I'll bet that kid is a mess or will be when she runs into a boss of professor who won't put up with it

Professors don't care if you attend class (if they don't grade in-class participation which 98% don't)...they just care that you get the work done. In theory, the kid has good practice for this.

Why good practice? Is she planning over skipping classes when she’s hung over?

So many of you are full of it claiming all As in AP classes without doing all the work. I agree that you can get away with this with easy classes but why allow them to start such bad habits?

I told my niece who is finishing junior year in college that theres one easy way to help you do well and that is to attend every class. The hard work is done outside of the classroom so any way to make it just a little bit easier should be used. The teacher will see you, you’ll know the teacher better. It’s a win win!

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly when mine is doing well and not getting in trouble when she’s skipping, I could care less. If she’s managing her grades then she’s doing her job. If the schools cared, there would be consequences and there aren’t.

As far as influencing other kids, there are countless groups of kids who could potentially influence your kids. Those who do drugs and vape in the hallways. Those who never show up at all and fail. My kid who skips classes but gets all As. Etc. Etc. You just need to teach your kid to do what they need to do to be successful. It’s not my kid’s job to do what your kid needs them to do so your kid can be successful. You’re focusing on the wrong thing.

Yeah. This selfish attitude is why our society is in the toilet and our collective values are being eroded. It's sad.

+1000. I'll bet that kid is a mess or will be when she runs into a boss of professor who won't put up with it

Professors don't care if you attend class (if they don't grade in-class participation which 98% don't)...they just care that you get the work done. In theory, the kid has good practice for this.

Yes I did and while I admit that my experience was different having gone to an academy, I know from experience that many professors DO care. Maybe in the seminar classes where there are tons they don't, but once you start hitting the 300 + levels many profs are going to notice if someone is consistently not there. But ok, you somehow feel like showing up isn't important. Good luck with that.


LOL! That is NOT so about every professor! I can 100% gaurantee you that!

That's why I said 98% of professors...my kid is at a Top 10 college right now and only 1 professor out of the 9 classes this year cares whether you attend class or not. Actually, the professor doesn't care if you attend class, he cares about attending the recitation. So, I guess we can say 89% of professors don't care.

Ahhh. Your subjective experience dictates all of our realities. I see

No...did you not attend college? This isn't earth-shattering news here. You are expected to be an adult in college and professors aren't taking attendance or monitoring if you come to class. UC Berkeley has some classes with 2400 kids registered for the lecture and the lecture hall only seats 800. Everything is hybrid, so you can follow on zoom. That's common at many schools.

Scratching my head why you think it is otherwise.

Well, I went to an academy so my experience was different. I have ben a professor myself too though, and I definitely cared as did many of my colleagues at a non-military University. Freshman may get away with being absent a lot in seminar classes that are huge, but once you hit the 300+ level classes the sizes get smaller as kids hone in on majors. Many professors, especially then, care a lot . I just don't see how condoning skipping seems acceptable.

Ok. Of course that will be different. I wouldn't claim to know how service academy schools work.

First, there is a difference between caring vs. a kid's grade suffering or not. Professors will strongly suggest attending lectures and office hours, but few explicitly factor it into the grade.

Second, I think it is major-dependent. STEM and business majors lean towards problem sets and exams, not papers or discussions. Due to demand for the courses/majors even at 300 level and above, they may still be 50+ students in multiple sections. Again, the professors are not taking any attendance for the most part.

I am not condoning skipping, but simply making a factual correction that for many people, that college works much differently than HS or the workplace. That's all.

Not every college is that massive. Do you honestly believe that professors don’t mind talking to an empty room? It’s disrespectful. And how many classroom hours are there? I can’t even believe there are defenders of skipping classes. There are still schools that will notice chronic skippers and will do something about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly when mine is doing well and not getting in trouble when she’s skipping, I could care less. If she’s managing her grades then she’s doing her job. If the schools cared, there would be consequences and there aren’t.

As far as influencing other kids, there are countless groups of kids who could potentially influence your kids. Those who do drugs and vape in the hallways. Those who never show up at all and fail. My kid who skips classes but gets all As. Etc. Etc. You just need to teach your kid to do what they need to do to be successful. It’s not my kid’s job to do what your kid needs them to do so your kid can be successful. You’re focusing on the wrong thing.

Yeah. This selfish attitude is why our society is in the toilet and our collective values are being eroded. It's sad.

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You just want me and others to parent in a way that makes your life easier rather than in the way my child needs and responds that’s a you issue not a me problem. There is not one right way to parent.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly when mine is doing well and not getting in trouble when she’s skipping, I could care less. If she’s managing her grades then she’s doing her job. If the schools cared, there would be consequences and there aren’t.

As far as influencing other kids, there are countless groups of kids who could potentially influence your kids. Those who do drugs and vape in the hallways. Those who never show up at all and fail. My kid who skips classes but gets all As. Etc. Etc. You just need to teach your kid to do what they need to do to be successful. It’s not my kid’s job to do what your kid needs them to do so your kid can be successful. You’re focusing on the wrong thing.

Yeah. This selfish attitude is why our society is in the toilet and our collective values are being eroded. It's sad.

+1000. I'll bet that kid is a mess or will be when she runs into a boss of professor who won't put up with it

Professors don't care if you attend class (if they don't grade in-class participation which 98% don't)...they just care that you get the work done. In theory, the kid has good practice for this.

Yes I did and while I admit that my experience was different having gone to an academy, I know from experience that many professors DO care. Maybe in the seminar classes where there are tons they don't, but once you start hitting the 300 + levels many profs are going to notice if someone is consistently not there. But ok, you somehow feel like showing up isn't important. Good luck with that.


LOL! That is NOT so about every professor! I can 100% gaurantee you that!

That's why I said 98% of professors...my kid is at a Top 10 college right now and only 1 professor out of the 9 classes this year cares whether you attend class or not. Actually, the professor doesn't care if you attend class, he cares about attending the recitation. So, I guess we can say 89% of professors don't care.

Ahhh. Your subjective experience dictates all of our realities. I see

No...did you not attend college? This isn't earth-shattering news here. You are expected to be an adult in college and professors aren't taking attendance or monitoring if you come to class. UC Berkeley has some classes with 2400 kids registered for the lecture and the lecture hall only seats 800. Everything is hybrid, so you can follow on zoom. That's common at many schools.

Scratching my head why you think it is otherwise.

Well, I went to an academy so my experience was different. I have ben a professor myself too though, and I definitely cared as did many of my colleagues at a non-military University. Freshman may get away with being absent a lot in seminar classes that are huge, but once you hit the 300+ level classes the sizes get smaller as kids hone in on majors. Many professors, especially then, care a lot . I just don't see how condoning skipping seems acceptable.

Ok. Of course that will be different. I wouldn't claim to know how service academy schools work.

First, there is a difference between caring vs. a kid's grade suffering or not. Professors will strongly suggest attending lectures and office hours, but few explicitly factor it into the grade.

Second, I think it is major-dependent. STEM and business majors lean towards problem sets and exams, not papers or discussions. Due to demand for the courses/majors even at 300 level and above, they may still be 50+ students in multiple sections. Again, the professors are not taking any attendance for the most part.

I am not condoning skipping, but simply making a factual correction that for many people, that college works much differently than HS or the workplace. That's all.

Not every college is that massive. Do you honestly believe that professors don’t mind talking to an empty room? It’s disrespectful. And how many classroom hours are there? I can’t even believe there are defenders of skipping classes. There are still schools that will notice chronic skippers and will do something about it.

Sorry you don’t understand how college works. Kids are adults…many go to class, nearly every kid has to skip class at some point (job interviews, sports commitments, etc.) and others skip more class than they should.

Professors don’t take attendance but also don’t care about excuses. Kid either does well or doesn’t, but it is up to them to learn the material one way or the other.

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Question for parents who have been through college applications: Does the number of days of school missed impact admissions? I know the number of days absent is in the transcript. Does it distinguish between excused and unexcused?

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Anonymous wrote:Question for parents who have been through college applications: Does the number of days of school missed impact admissions? I know the number of days absent is in the transcript. Does it distinguish between excused and unexcused?

No. Only the course rigor and grades matter and I am not aware of any official transcript that tracks missed days.

Formal disciplinary actions may show up…have never had to deal with that problem so not sure how it may be recorded.

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OP are you sure that the kids' parents are not calling them out of school? There isn't much the school can do about that? There is a lot of time wasting at our large public, especially when there are subs, assemblies, testing, etc. so I will call my kids out of school if there are large chunks of time where nothing is being taught. Sometimes near a long weekend or something my child will know in advance that they will have all subs that day or something like that, so I will just call them out. Teachers don't leave real work for the subs any more, and any work they do post is online and can be completed at home.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for parents who have been through college applications: Does the number of days of school missed impact admissions? I know the number of days absent is in the transcript. Does it distinguish between excused and unexcused?

Colleges don’t even ask for absences. They DGAF