USC and Columbia Protests

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All I have to say is the poor Arabs. Jews should not be targeted but neither anyone who speaks their minds politically. Anti semitism should not include being able to stand up for Palestine/Gaza. I really feel strongly that Jews who keep putting down these protesters are in the wrong. It's not about whether the protesters are right but that they should be allowed to express their sentiments without being attacked publicly. People don't understand that universities have always been the battlefront of intense political dialogue - education is where ideas and thoughts are expressed and absorbed. Questioning and debate, considerations and strong sentiments are the way the young learn. To take away the rights of these kids is basically censorship.

I also support the freedom to protest and debate, and I’m all in favor of criticizing Israel’s government and its actions.

But…

So many of these protesters have gone too far.

Calling for the destruction or elimination of Israel.

Supporting terrorism. “Resistance is justified.”

Targeting people in the US simply because they are Jewish.

To me, these things cross the line and deserve condemnation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All I have to say is the poor Arabs. Jews should not be targeted but neither anyone who speaks their minds politically. Anti semitism should not include being able to stand up for Palestine/Gaza. I really feel strongly that Jews who keep putting down these protesters are in the wrong. It's not about whether the protesters are right but that they should be allowed to express their sentiments without being attacked publicly. People don't understand that universities have always been the battlefront of intense political dialogue - education is where ideas and thoughts are expressed and absorbed. Questioning and debate, considerations and strong sentiments are the way the young learn. To take away the rights of these kids is basically censorship.

Are you a free speech absolutist? Like everyone no matter what should be able to speak and protest? Would you support the free speech rights of Nazis? If you’re not an absolutist then you’re just playing favorites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All I have to say is the poor Arabs. Jews should not be targeted but neither anyone who speaks their minds politically. Anti semitism should not include being able to stand up for Palestine/Gaza. I really feel strongly that Jews who keep putting down these protesters are in the wrong. It's not about whether the protesters are right but that they should be allowed to express their sentiments without being attacked publicly. People don't understand that universities have always been the battlefront of intense political dialogue - education is where ideas and thoughts are expressed and absorbed. Questioning and debate, considerations and strong sentiments are the way the young learn. To take away the rights of these kids is basically censorship.

NP. I saw a video tonight where the “kids” you are defending were screaming “Go back to Poland” at Jewish students. Something like 96% of Polish Jews were killed by the Nazis. Is this the side and behavior you are defending?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I have to say is the poor Arabs. Jews should not be targeted but neither anyone who speaks their minds politically. Anti semitism should not include being able to stand up for Palestine/Gaza. I really feel strongly that Jews who keep putting down these protesters are in the wrong. It's not about whether the protesters are right but that they should be allowed to express their sentiments without being attacked publicly. People don't understand that universities have always been the battlefront of intense political dialogue - education is where ideas and thoughts are expressed and absorbed. Questioning and debate, considerations and strong sentiments are the way the young learn. To take away the rights of these kids is basically censorship.

NP. I saw a video tonight where the “kids” you are defending were screaming “Go back to Poland” at Jewish students. Something like 96% of Polish Jews were killed by the Nazis. Is this the side and behavior you are defending?

+1000
Asking for multiple repeat 10/7, telling Jews to go to Poland, stabbing a Jewish student in the eye, telling Hamas with signs the Jews on campus should be their next target. This is not a protest it’s just plain old antisemitism. I hope Israel’s population swells with American Jews who have had enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I have to say is the poor Arabs. Jews should not be targeted but neither anyone who speaks their minds politically. Anti semitism should not include being able to stand up for Palestine/Gaza. I really feel strongly that Jews who keep putting down these protesters are in the wrong. It's not about whether the protesters are right but that they should be allowed to express their sentiments without being attacked publicly. People don't understand that universities have always been the battlefront of intense political dialogue - education is where ideas and thoughts are expressed and absorbed. Questioning and debate, considerations and strong sentiments are the way the young learn. To take away the rights of these kids is basically censorship.

NP. I saw a video tonight where the “kids” you are defending were screaming “Go back to Poland” at Jewish students. Something like 96% of Polish Jews were killed by the Nazis. Is this the side and behavior you are defending?

+1000
Asking for multiple repeat 10/7, telling Jews to go to Poland, stabbing a Jewish student in the eye, telling Hamas with signs the Jews on campus should be their next target. This is not a protest it’s just plain old antisemitism. I hope Israel’s population swells with American Jews who have had enough.

It’s hardly one-sided bigotry, and yet I suspect you don’t even understand that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I have to say is the poor Arabs. Jews should not be targeted but neither anyone who speaks their minds politically. Anti semitism should not include being able to stand up for Palestine/Gaza. I really feel strongly that Jews who keep putting down these protesters are in the wrong. It's not about whether the protesters are right but that they should be allowed to express their sentiments without being attacked publicly. People don't understand that universities have always been the battlefront of intense political dialogue - education is where ideas and thoughts are expressed and absorbed. Questioning and debate, considerations and strong sentiments are the way the young learn. To take away the rights of these kids is basically censorship.

Are you a free speech absolutist? Like everyone no matter what should be able to speak and protest? Would you support the free speech rights of Nazis? If you’re not an absolutist then you’re just playing favorites.

What's more, USC and Columbia are private universities so making the free speech argument is questionable no matter who is speaking.

[Anonymous]

This should get shut down. Sick of this country turning in to a battleground every time there’s a new cause du jour.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I have to say is the poor Arabs. Jews should not be targeted but neither anyone who speaks their minds politically. Anti semitism should not include being able to stand up for Palestine/Gaza. I really feel strongly that Jews who keep putting down these protesters are in the wrong. It's not about whether the protesters are right but that they should be allowed to express their sentiments without being attacked publicly. People don't understand that universities have always been the battlefront of intense political dialogue - education is where ideas and thoughts are expressed and absorbed. Questioning and debate, considerations and strong sentiments are the way the young learn. To take away the rights of these kids is basically censorship.

NP. I saw a video tonight where the “kids” you are defending were screaming “Go back to Poland” at Jewish students. Something like 96% of Polish Jews were killed by the Nazis. Is this the side and behavior you are defending?

+1000
Asking for multiple repeat 10/7, telling Jews to go to Poland, stabbing a Jewish student in the eye, telling Hamas with signs the Jews on campus should be their next target. This is not a protest it’s just plain old antisemitism. I hope Israel’s population swells with American Jews who have had enough.

It’s hardly one-sided bigotry, and yet I suspect you don’t even understand that.

Go ahead and link articles where pro Israel students physically assaulted pro Palestinian students. You’ll find next to none while there are numerous reports of the opposite situation.

[Anonymous]

Views of what is actually happening at the Columbia protests are mixed:

“Noah Levine, 20, a sophomore at Columbia and an organizer with Jewish Voice for Peace, said they found the rabbi’s comments “deeply offensive.”

“I’m a Jewish student who has been in this encampment since its inception,” they said. “I’m also a student who has been organizing in this community with these people since October, and even before that, and I believe in my heart that this is not about antisemitism.”
But Xavier Westergaard, a Ph.D. student in biology, said the mood for Jewish students was “very dire.”

“There are students on campus who are yelling horrible things, not about Israelis only or about the actions of the state or the government, but about Jews in general,” he said.”

More here: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/21/nyregion/columbia-protests-antisemitism.html

Certainly threats and violence should not happen and the University should investigate and have cameras monitoring. However, students do have the right to protest and it is not antisemitic for someone to say or hold a sign that indicates they believe Israel’s current actions are wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I have to say is the poor Arabs. Jews should not be targeted but neither anyone who speaks their minds politically. Anti semitism should not include being able to stand up for Palestine/Gaza. I really feel strongly that Jews who keep putting down these protesters are in the wrong. It's not about whether the protesters are right but that they should be allowed to express their sentiments without being attacked publicly. People don't understand that universities have always been the battlefront of intense political dialogue - education is where ideas and thoughts are expressed and absorbed. Questioning and debate, considerations and strong sentiments are the way the young learn. To take away the rights of these kids is basically censorship.

NP. I saw a video tonight where the “kids” you are defending were screaming “Go back to Poland” at Jewish students. Something like 96% of Polish Jews were killed by the Nazis. Is this the side and behavior you are defending?

+1000
Asking for multiple repeat 10/7, telling Jews to go to Poland, stabbing a Jewish student in the eye, telling Hamas with signs the Jews on campus should be their next target. This is not a protest it’s just plain old antisemitism. I hope Israel’s population swells with American Jews who have had enough.

If this is happening Columbia security should rig up cameras or use drone cameras to catch the perpetrators in the act and arrest them for hate speech. However, based on the accounts I’ve read these would be isolated incidents and so those protesting peacefully should be allowed to continue. Pro Israelis should have the right to protest too peacefully if they want but protesting that you want to kill more people is not a good look.

[Anonymous]

I totally understand why Jewish students would not feel safe on campus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Absolutely disgusting that Jewish students are being denied their education simply because of their religious beliefs.

As a Jewish person, and as someone with many Jewish friends, we are all so scared right now with the aggressive, at times violent, protests calling for the dissolution of Israel “from the river to the sea,” and often celebrating Hamas and other terrorist organizations openly.

We, as a nation, need to set a reasonable line. Most of these kids are just college students who want to better their lives. They do not deserve to be screamed at and called a “Zionist” because they believe Israel has the right to exist, or to be told that their cousin is committing genocide because they are proudly serving in the IDF. These colleges need to figure out how they can respect student protesters’ rights while also protecting their Jewish students who have the exact same rights to participate in their educational services as any other student, without feeling like they are risking their lives every time they are walking into campus.

So scared of what? Name one Jewish student that has been maimed, killed, suffered any injury or slight injustice. I can name at least a dozen Palestinian-Americans that have been killed, maimed, blacklisted, lost their jobs and livelihoods.

Jewish students are so violent that they want to shut down the earnest protest of others so that they may not feel the guilt that arises from the barbarity with which they identify.

[Anonymous]

Add Yale to the mix.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Absolutely disgusting that Jewish students are being denied their education simply because of their religious beliefs.

As a Jewish person, and as someone with many Jewish friends, we are all so scared right now with the aggressive, at times violent, protests calling for the dissolution of Israel “from the river to the sea,” and often celebrating Hamas and other terrorist organizations openly.

We, as a nation, need to set a reasonable line. Most of these kids are just college students who want to better their lives. They do not deserve to be screamed at and called a “Zionist” because they believe Israel has the right to exist, or to be told that their cousin is committing genocide because they are proudly serving in the IDF. These colleges need to figure out how they can respect student protesters’ rights while also protecting their Jewish students who have the exact same rights to participate in their educational services as any other student, without feeling like they are risking their lives every time they are walking into campus.

So scared of what? Name one Jewish student that has been maimed, killed, suffered any injury or slight injustice. I can name at least a dozen Palestinian-Americans that have been killed, maimed, blacklisted, lost their jobs and livelihoods.

Jewish students are so violent that they want to shut down the earnest protest of others so that they may not feel the guilt that arises from the barbarity with which they identify.

When students are not permitted to move freely simply because of their religion, there is a problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Absolutely disgusting that Jewish students are being denied their education simply because of their religious beliefs.

As a Jewish person, and as someone with many Jewish friends, we are all so scared right now with the aggressive, at times violent, protests calling for the dissolution of Israel “from the river to the sea,” and often celebrating Hamas and other terrorist organizations openly.

We, as a nation, need to set a reasonable line. Most of these kids are just college students who want to better their lives. They do not deserve to be screamed at and called a “Zionist” because they believe Israel has the right to exist, or to be told that their cousin is committing genocide because they are proudly serving in the IDF. These colleges need to figure out how they can respect student protesters’ rights while also protecting their Jewish students who have the exact same rights to participate in their educational services as any other student, without feeling like they are risking their lives every time they are walking into campus.

So scared of what? Name one Jewish student that has been maimed, killed, suffered any injury or slight injustice. I can name at least a dozen Palestinian-Americans that have been killed, maimed, blacklisted, lost their jobs and livelihoods.

Jewish students are so violent that they want to shut down the earnest protest of others so that they may not feel the guilt that arises from the barbarity with which they identify.

This is satire right?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/jewish-yale-student-stabbed-eye-palestinian-flag-rowdy-protest-mob-behavior.amp

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/sanfrancisco/news/uc-berkeley-leaders-denounce-violent-protest-jewish-student-event-evacuated-ran-bar-yoshafat-lecture/


https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-796586