TJ admissions change from Merit to Essay impact to Asian American Students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That was the design. TJ needs the diversity. Inclusive programs will help every student at the school.

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

How do innocent algebra 1 kids benefit when they're placed at the bottom, enduring four years of misery as they strive to catch up with peers in the upper two-thirds, who are two years ahead in math and science? While the upper two-thirds may enjoy the supposed benefits (whatever they are) of diversity introduced by the inclusion of the bottom third, why impose the burden on the bottom third by subjecting them to a rigorous TJ curriculum they would struggle with? It seems like Algebra 1 students are getting the short end of the stick with admissions change.

Serious answer: the rigorous curriculum at TJ is designed for calculus, whether it is taken as a senior, or a junior, or earlier. The students who took Algebra 1 in 8th grade are not behind and do not need to catch up to anyone. They are right on target for the TJ curriculum. Will they take multivar? Probably not, but it isn't needed for most/all of the senior research projects or for other classes. Calculus is required, and they will take it.

They're fine.

Not fine. They're lagging behind, nearly two years behind students entering with Algebra 2, and even those with geometry who quickly advance to Calc BC by sophomore year. You seem unaware of the stress and anguish being behind typically places on a student who, at best, reaches Calc AB by senior year, while their peers, with whom they play soccer or lacrosse, are all academically two years ahead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one, including Asians, want to go to a school that is 75% Asian.

Not true. My black kid has been dreaming since elementary to attend Howard University which is 67.4% Black. But my neighbor's Asian kid is being told he cannot attend TJ because there is a racial quota limit for Asians there.

Oh, the era we live in, placing limits based on student's ethnicity. Different standards for different skin colors!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Main impact is the per-school quota, with some schools having few Asians. The essay will be adjusted for by prep schools, at out school Curie admits have gone up. It will be a different group of Asians getting admitted.

Haha no.

Yes they have. It appears Curie has figured out how to train kids on what to write on the essay to boost chances.

Thank you all for the free mention that Curie receives, but as it has been mentioned all classes are full and curriculum is for advanced math and science learners only. There is no silly essay training, please look elsewhere for that.

"In English, the focus is on grammar, vocabulary, reading, and essay writing. In science, data analysis, research summaries and conflicting viewpoints, and application of these skills for crafting a response to science problem-solving essay prompts will be covered"

https://curielearning.com/middle-program-7-8

[Anonymous]

Not true. There are plenty of dei programs. Some you would t know. The gov at every level has it too. Equality!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DEI is critical for equality. That’s why corporations are implementing program to be more inclusive.

In the past 2 years, the craze for DEI in corporate America has deflated a lot. When money was cheap, they could have an army of middle-level managers who do nothing but attending meetings and talking about equity. Now, all focus on productivity, cutting costs, and staying nimble. They have let go lots of those nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

A small cohort that makes up less than 15% of the county's population still dominates TJ admissions. Asians are well represented at TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one, including Asians, want to go to a school that is 75% Asian.

Not true. My black kid has been dreaming since elementary to attend Howard University which is 67.4% Black. But my neighbor's Asian kid is being told he cannot attend TJ because there is a racial quote limit for Asians there.

Who told him that lie? There is no quota. Look Tucker, stop with the propaganda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That was the design. TJ needs the diversity. Inclusive programs will help every student at the school.

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

They need students who don't have parents that pay $$$$ for test prep classes. Just because you can pass one test OBVIOUSLY doesn't make you a relevant student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one, including Asians, want to go to a school that is 75% Asian.

Not true. My black kid has been dreaming since elementary to attend Howard University which is 67.4% Black. But my neighbor's Asian kid is being told he cannot attend TJ because there is a racial quote limit for Asians there.

Who told him that lie? There is no quota. Look Tucker, stop with the propaganda.

Yes, selection by law is race-blind. They are sadly misinformed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That was the design. TJ needs the diversity. Inclusive programs will help every student at the school.

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

They need students who don't have parents that pay $$$$ for test prep classes. Just because you can pass one test OBVIOUSLY doesn't make you a relevant student.

But free lunches do!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That was the design. TJ needs the diversity. Inclusive programs will help every student at the school.

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

They need students who don't have parents that pay $$$$ for test prep classes. Just because you can pass one test OBVIOUSLY doesn't make you a relevant student.

But free lunches do!

Shame on you. You really don't understand that a child's circumstances are hindered when they can't afford to eat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aww it's only merit when it measures what you want.

+1 Is a good essay not merit-based?

[Anonymous]

Why don't you consider excellent essay writing skills meritorious?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That was the design. TJ needs the diversity. Inclusive programs will help every student at the school.

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

How do innocent algebra 1 kids benefit when they're placed at the bottom, enduring four years of misery as they strive to catch up with peers in the upper two-thirds, who are two years ahead in math and science? While the upper two-thirds may enjoy the supposed benefits (whatever they are) of diversity introduced by the inclusion of the bottom third, why impose the burden on the bottom third by subjecting them to a rigorous TJ curriculum they would struggle with? It seems like Algebra 1 students are getting the short end of the stick with admissions change.

Serious answer: the rigorous curriculum at TJ is designed for calculus, whether it is taken as a senior, or a junior, or earlier. The students who took Algebra 1 in 8th grade are not behind and do not need to catch up to anyone. They are right on target for the TJ curriculum. Will they take multivar? Probably not, but it isn't needed for most/all of the senior research projects or for other classes. Calculus is required, and they will take it.

They're fine.

Not fine. They're lagging behind, nearly two years behind students entering with Algebra 2, and even those with geometry who quickly advance to Calc BC by sophomore year. You seem unaware of the stress and anguish being behind typically places on a student who, at best, reaches Calc AB by senior year, while their peers, with whom they play soccer or lacrosse, are all academically two years ahead.

Why would a kid who is "behind" in math want to go to TJ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Main impact is the per-school quota, with some schools having few Asians. The essay will be adjusted for by prep schools, at out school Curie admits have gone up. It will be a different group of Asians getting admitted.

Haha no.

Yes they have. It appears Curie has figured out how to train kids on what to write on the essay to boost chances.

Thank you all for the free mention that Curie receives, but as it has been mentioned all classes are full and curriculum is for advanced math and science learners only. There is no silly essay training, please look elsewhere for that.

"In English, the focus is on grammar, vocabulary, reading, and essay writing. In science, data analysis, research summaries and conflicting viewpoints, and application of these skills for crafting a response to science problem-solving essay prompts will be covered"

https://curielearning.com/middle-program-7-8

We are very much interested in this Curie program. We hear how difficult their math and science are, so that needs to be factored in. Thanks for posting the link.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That was the design. TJ needs the diversity. Inclusive programs will help every student at the school.

Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028

How do innocent algebra 1 kids benefit when they're placed at the bottom, enduring four years of misery as they strive to catch up with peers in the upper two-thirds, who are two years ahead in math and science? While the upper two-thirds may enjoy the supposed benefits (whatever they are) of diversity introduced by the inclusion of the bottom third, why impose the burden on the bottom third by subjecting them to a rigorous TJ curriculum they would struggle with? It seems like Algebra 1 students are getting the short end of the stick with admissions change.

Serious answer: the rigorous curriculum at TJ is designed for calculus, whether it is taken as a senior, or a junior, or earlier. The students who took Algebra 1 in 8th grade are not behind and do not need to catch up to anyone. They are right on target for the TJ curriculum. Will they take multivar? Probably not, but it isn't needed for most/all of the senior research projects or for other classes. Calculus is required, and they will take it.

They're fine.

Not fine. They're lagging behind, nearly two years behind students entering with Algebra 2, and even those with geometry who quickly advance to Calc BC by sophomore year. You seem unaware of the stress and anguish being behind typically places on a student who, at best, reaches Calc AB by senior year, while their peers, with whom they play soccer or lacrosse, are all academically two years ahead.

Why would a kid who is "behind" in math want to go to TJ?

The equity based admission offer which lacks math evaluation misleads the student and their parent into believing they can handle the TJ rigor.