Budget- CE recommended budget $55.7M less

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the MCPS budget includes $40 million to plug the anticipated gap in the health insurance fund for employees. In other words, they already know the employer and employee premiums won't be enough to cover claims. Instead of working with the union to address this issue (by lowering costs and/or raising premiums), they are asking for millions from county taxpayers and threatening to cut services for students if we don't pay.

They need to change insurance plans and charge more for premiums like the county does and most employers.

That is a double-edged sword. The staffing crisis, particularly special ed teachers, paras, and SLPs, is only getting worse. Many people are very unhappy. And some of those unhappy people are only staying in the job because they feel handcuffed by having good insurance. If it gets expensive and worse, I promise you more people will quit, because they already wanted to and the last reason to put up with the garbage will be gone. They also already sold this year's change from CareFirst to Cigna as a way to get the same coverage for cheaper and appear to have gotten that spectacularly wrong or had one pulled over on them by Cigna, so why should anyone trust them to know what they're doing with this?

The solution to that is to do a targeted pay raise for SPED positions, and to provide benefits to paras. It's not fiscally practical to increase benefits for everyone.

It is more complicated than you think. Physics teachers are impossible to find. Should they raise their pay and not other teachers? PE teachers are very easy to find. Should they lower their pay?

Yes to Physics no to lowering pay for PE. Honestly much easier to simply put caps on CO bloat than nickle and diming everyone.

Guys, they still have to work out the health insurance issue. They have to reduce costs or increase premiums. MCPS pays for 83% of premiums so employees bear a minority of cost increases, which of course is still impactful. But a yearly injection of $40 million is not going to happen long term so they need to figure it out.

There's nothing to figure out. They need to raise the employee contributions to something a little closer to other public sector jobs.

Increasing premiums means increasing employer and employee contributions. Demanding $40 million and threatening not to fix moldy schools of they don't get it means MCPS as a system bears the entire cost.

They need to increase the employees' share of premiums. 12%/17% is incredibly low.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the MCPS budget includes $40 million to plug the anticipated gap in the health insurance fund for employees. In other words, they already know the employer and employee premiums won't be enough to cover claims. Instead of working with the union to address this issue (by lowering costs and/or raising premiums), they are asking for millions from county taxpayers and threatening to cut services for students if we don't pay.

They need to change insurance plans and charge more for premiums like the county does and most employers.

That is a double-edged sword. The staffing crisis, particularly special ed teachers, paras, and SLPs, is only getting worse. Many people are very unhappy. And some of those unhappy people are only staying in the job because they feel handcuffed by having good insurance. If it gets expensive and worse, I promise you more people will quit, because they already wanted to and the last reason to put up with the garbage will be gone. They also already sold this year's change from CareFirst to Cigna as a way to get the same coverage for cheaper and appear to have gotten that spectacularly wrong or had one pulled over on them by Cigna, so why should anyone trust them to know what they're doing with this?

The solution to that is to do a targeted pay raise for SPED positions, and to provide benefits to paras. It's not fiscally practical to increase benefits for everyone.

It is more complicated than you think. Physics teachers are impossible to find. Should they raise their pay and not other teachers? PE teachers are very easy to find. Should they lower their pay?

Yes to Physics no to lowering pay for PE. Honestly much easier to simply put caps on CO bloat than nickle and diming everyone.

Guys, they still have to work out the health insurance issue. They have to reduce costs or increase premiums. MCPS pays for 83% of premiums so employees bear a minority of cost increases, which of course is still impactful. But a yearly injection of $40 million is not going to happen long term so they need to figure it out.

There's nothing to figure out. They need to raise the employee contributions to something a little closer to other public sector jobs.

Increasing premiums means increasing employer and employee contributions. Demanding $40 million and threatening not to fix moldy schools of they don't get it means MCPS as a system bears the entire cost.

They need to increase the employees' share of premiums. 12%/17% is incredibly low.

I agree with you, but the problem at hand is the total premiums.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the MCPS budget includes $40 million to plug the anticipated gap in the health insurance fund for employees. In other words, they already know the employer and employee premiums won't be enough to cover claims. Instead of working with the union to address this issue (by lowering costs and/or raising premiums), they are asking for millions from county taxpayers and threatening to cut services for students if we don't pay.

They need to change insurance plans and charge more for premiums like the county does and most employers.

That is a double-edged sword. The staffing crisis, particularly special ed teachers, paras, and SLPs, is only getting worse. Many people are very unhappy. And some of those unhappy people are only staying in the job because they feel handcuffed by having good insurance. If it gets expensive and worse, I promise you more people will quit, because they already wanted to and the last reason to put up with the garbage will be gone. They also already sold this year's change from CareFirst to Cigna as a way to get the same coverage for cheaper and appear to have gotten that spectacularly wrong or had one pulled over on them by Cigna, so why should anyone trust them to know what they're doing with this?

The solution to that is to do a targeted pay raise for SPED positions, and to provide benefits to paras. It's not fiscally practical to increase benefits for everyone.

It is more complicated than you think. Physics teachers are impossible to find. Should they raise their pay and not other teachers? PE teachers are very easy to find. Should they lower their pay?

Yes to Physics no to lowering pay for PE. Honestly much easier to simply put caps on CO bloat than nickle and diming everyone.

Guys, they still have to work out the health insurance issue. They have to reduce costs or increase premiums. MCPS pays for 83% of premiums so employees bear a minority of cost increases, which of course is still impactful. But a yearly injection of $40 million is not going to happen long term so they need to figure it out.

There's nothing to figure out. They need to raise the employee contributions to something a little closer to other public sector jobs.

Increasing premiums means increasing employer and employee contributions. Demanding $40 million and threatening not to fix moldy schools of they don't get it means MCPS as a system bears the entire cost.

They need to increase the employees' share of premiums. 12%/17% is incredibly low.

This is a slippery slope. Looking at Howard County schools, it’s the same/similar division between employer and employee. Granted they are much smaller of a district but MCPS charging employees more when other districts do not will not go over well.

Insurance needs to adjust what they charge as do hospitals and other medical providers. But that’s another argument for another day - plus it’s not something mcps can control.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the MCPS budget includes $40 million to plug the anticipated gap in the health insurance fund for employees. In other words, they already know the employer and employee premiums won't be enough to cover claims. Instead of working with the union to address this issue (by lowering costs and/or raising premiums), they are asking for millions from county taxpayers and threatening to cut services for students if we don't pay.

They need to change insurance plans and charge more for premiums like the county does and most employers.

That is a double-edged sword. The staffing crisis, particularly special ed teachers, paras, and SLPs, is only getting worse. Many people are very unhappy. And some of those unhappy people are only staying in the job because they feel handcuffed by having good insurance. If it gets expensive and worse, I promise you more people will quit, because they already wanted to and the last reason to put up with the garbage will be gone. They also already sold this year's change from CareFirst to Cigna as a way to get the same coverage for cheaper and appear to have gotten that spectacularly wrong or had one pulled over on them by Cigna, so why should anyone trust them to know what they're doing with this?

The solution to that is to do a targeted pay raise for SPED positions, and to provide benefits to paras. It's not fiscally practical to increase benefits for everyone.

It is more complicated than you think. Physics teachers are impossible to find. Should they raise their pay and not other teachers? PE teachers are very easy to find. Should they lower their pay?

Yes to Physics no to lowering pay for PE. Honestly much easier to simply put caps on CO bloat than nickle and diming everyone.

Guys, they still have to work out the health insurance issue. They have to reduce costs or increase premiums. MCPS pays for 83% of premiums so employees bear a minority of cost increases, which of course is still impactful. But a yearly injection of $40 million is not going to happen long term so they need to figure it out.

There's nothing to figure out. They need to raise the employee contributions to something a little closer to other public sector jobs.

Increasing premiums means increasing employer and employee contributions. Demanding $40 million and threatening not to fix moldy schools of they don't get it means MCPS as a system bears the entire cost.

They need to increase the employees' share of premiums. 12%/17% is incredibly low.

I agree with you, but the problem at hand is the total premiums.

No, the immediate problem is that the premiums aren't enough. The budget problem for next year is that we can't keep paying 88%/83% of the premiums.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the MCPS budget includes $40 million to plug the anticipated gap in the health insurance fund for employees. In other words, they already know the employer and employee premiums won't be enough to cover claims. Instead of working with the union to address this issue (by lowering costs and/or raising premiums), they are asking for millions from county taxpayers and threatening to cut services for students if we don't pay.

They need to change insurance plans and charge more for premiums like the county does and most employers.

That is a double-edged sword. The staffing crisis, particularly special ed teachers, paras, and SLPs, is only getting worse. Many people are very unhappy. And some of those unhappy people are only staying in the job because they feel handcuffed by having good insurance. If it gets expensive and worse, I promise you more people will quit, because they already wanted to and the last reason to put up with the garbage will be gone. They also already sold this year's change from CareFirst to Cigna as a way to get the same coverage for cheaper and appear to have gotten that spectacularly wrong or had one pulled over on them by Cigna, so why should anyone trust them to know what they're doing with this?

The solution to that is to do a targeted pay raise for SPED positions, and to provide benefits to paras. It's not fiscally practical to increase benefits for everyone.

It is more complicated than you think. Physics teachers are impossible to find. Should they raise their pay and not other teachers? PE teachers are very easy to find. Should they lower their pay?

Yes to Physics no to lowering pay for PE. Honestly much easier to simply put caps on CO bloat than nickle and diming everyone.

Guys, they still have to work out the health insurance issue. They have to reduce costs or increase premiums. MCPS pays for 83% of premiums so employees bear a minority of cost increases, which of course is still impactful. But a yearly injection of $40 million is not going to happen long term so they need to figure it out.

There's nothing to figure out. They need to raise the employee contributions to something a little closer to other public sector jobs.

Increasing premiums means increasing employer and employee contributions. Demanding $40 million and threatening not to fix moldy schools of they don't get it means MCPS as a system bears the entire cost.

They need to increase the employees' share of premiums. 12%/17% is incredibly low.

This is a slippery slope. Looking at Howard County schools, it’s the same/similar division between employer and employee. Granted they are much smaller of a district but MCPS charging employees more when other districts do not will not go over well.

Insurance needs to adjust what they charge as do hospitals and other medical providers. But that’s another argument for another day - plus it’s not something mcps can control.

MCPS is self insured. They have control over premiums, copays, deductibles and coinsurance.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the MCPS budget includes $40 million to plug the anticipated gap in the health insurance fund for employees. In other words, they already know the employer and employee premiums won't be enough to cover claims. Instead of working with the union to address this issue (by lowering costs and/or raising premiums), they are asking for millions from county taxpayers and threatening to cut services for students if we don't pay.

They need to change insurance plans and charge more for premiums like the county does and most employers.

That is a double-edged sword. The staffing crisis, particularly special ed teachers, paras, and SLPs, is only getting worse. Many people are very unhappy. And some of those unhappy people are only staying in the job because they feel handcuffed by having good insurance. If it gets expensive and worse, I promise you more people will quit, because they already wanted to and the last reason to put up with the garbage will be gone. They also already sold this year's change from CareFirst to Cigna as a way to get the same coverage for cheaper and appear to have gotten that spectacularly wrong or had one pulled over on them by Cigna, so why should anyone trust them to know what they're doing with this?

The solution to that is to do a targeted pay raise for SPED positions, and to provide benefits to paras. It's not fiscally practical to increase benefits for everyone.

It is more complicated than you think. Physics teachers are impossible to find. Should they raise their pay and not other teachers? PE teachers are very easy to find. Should they lower their pay?

Yes to Physics no to lowering pay for PE. Honestly much easier to simply put caps on CO bloat than nickle and diming everyone.

Guys, they still have to work out the health insurance issue. They have to reduce costs or increase premiums. MCPS pays for 83% of premiums so employees bear a minority of cost increases, which of course is still impactful. But a yearly injection of $40 million is not going to happen long term so they need to figure it out.

There's nothing to figure out. They need to raise the employee contributions to something a little closer to other public sector jobs.

Increasing premiums means increasing employer and employee contributions. Demanding $40 million and threatening not to fix moldy schools of they don't get it means MCPS as a system bears the entire cost.

They need to increase the employees' share of premiums. 12%/17% is incredibly low.

This is a slippery slope. Looking at Howard County schools, it’s the same/similar division between employer and employee. Granted they are much smaller of a district but MCPS charging employees more when other districts do not will not go over well.

Insurance needs to adjust what they charge as do hospitals and other medical providers. But that’s another argument for another day - plus it’s not something mcps can control.

Telling a bunch of fat teachers that we won't pay for their expensive weight-loss drugs isn't going to go over well, either.

Wow. Should we also tell that to the teachers that have children in cancer treatment? What is wrong with you? Disgusting statement. How embarrassing for you.

Which is why the easier solution is to just to raise the employee share of premiums, unless MCEA wants to say what benefits to cut.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the MCPS budget includes $40 million to plug the anticipated gap in the health insurance fund for employees. In other words, they already know the employer and employee premiums won't be enough to cover claims. Instead of working with the union to address this issue (by lowering costs and/or raising premiums), they are asking for millions from county taxpayers and threatening to cut services for students if we don't pay.

They need to change insurance plans and charge more for premiums like the county does and most employers.

That is a double-edged sword. The staffing crisis, particularly special ed teachers, paras, and SLPs, is only getting worse. Many people are very unhappy. And some of those unhappy people are only staying in the job because they feel handcuffed by having good insurance. If it gets expensive and worse, I promise you more people will quit, because they already wanted to and the last reason to put up with the garbage will be gone. They also already sold this year's change from CareFirst to Cigna as a way to get the same coverage for cheaper and appear to have gotten that spectacularly wrong or had one pulled over on them by Cigna, so why should anyone trust them to know what they're doing with this?

The solution to that is to do a targeted pay raise for SPED positions, and to provide benefits to paras. It's not fiscally practical to increase benefits for everyone.

It is more complicated than you think. Physics teachers are impossible to find. Should they raise their pay and not other teachers? PE teachers are very easy to find. Should they lower their pay?

Yes to Physics no to lowering pay for PE. Honestly much easier to simply put caps on CO bloat than nickle and diming everyone.

Guys, they still have to work out the health insurance issue. They have to reduce costs or increase premiums. MCPS pays for 83% of premiums so employees bear a minority of cost increases, which of course is still impactful. But a yearly injection of $40 million is not going to happen long term so they need to figure it out.

There's nothing to figure out. They need to raise the employee contributions to something a little closer to other public sector jobs.

Increasing premiums means increasing employer and employee contributions. Demanding $40 million and threatening not to fix moldy schools of they don't get it means MCPS as a system bears the entire cost.

They need to increase the employees' share of premiums. 12%/17% is incredibly low.

This is a slippery slope. Looking at Howard County schools, it’s the same/similar division between employer and employee. Granted they are much smaller of a district but MCPS charging employees more when other districts do not will not go over well.

Insurance needs to adjust what they charge as do hospitals and other medical providers. But that’s another argument for another day - plus it’s not something mcps can control.

MCPS is self insured. They have control over premiums, copays, deductibles and coinsurance.

Yes. They do. But I was referring to what hospitals and other medical providers charge. It can be excessive.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the MCPS budget includes $40 million to plug the anticipated gap in the health insurance fund for employees. In other words, they already know the employer and employee premiums won't be enough to cover claims. Instead of working with the union to address this issue (by lowering costs and/or raising premiums), they are asking for millions from county taxpayers and threatening to cut services for students if we don't pay.

They need to change insurance plans and charge more for premiums like the county does and most employers.

That is a double-edged sword. The staffing crisis, particularly special ed teachers, paras, and SLPs, is only getting worse. Many people are very unhappy. And some of those unhappy people are only staying in the job because they feel handcuffed by having good insurance. If it gets expensive and worse, I promise you more people will quit, because they already wanted to and the last reason to put up with the garbage will be gone. They also already sold this year's change from CareFirst to Cigna as a way to get the same coverage for cheaper and appear to have gotten that spectacularly wrong or had one pulled over on them by Cigna, so why should anyone trust them to know what they're doing with this?

The solution to that is to do a targeted pay raise for SPED positions, and to provide benefits to paras. It's not fiscally practical to increase benefits for everyone.

It is more complicated than you think. Physics teachers are impossible to find. Should they raise their pay and not other teachers? PE teachers are very easy to find. Should they lower their pay?

Yes to Physics no to lowering pay for PE. Honestly much easier to simply put caps on CO bloat than nickle and diming everyone.

Guys, they still have to work out the health insurance issue. They have to reduce costs or increase premiums. MCPS pays for 83% of premiums so employees bear a minority of cost increases, which of course is still impactful. But a yearly injection of $40 million is not going to happen long term so they need to figure it out.

There's nothing to figure out. They need to raise the employee contributions to something a little closer to other public sector jobs.

Increasing premiums means increasing employer and employee contributions. Demanding $40 million and threatening not to fix moldy schools of they don't get it means MCPS as a system bears the entire cost.

They need to increase the employees' share of premiums. 12%/17% is incredibly low.

This is a slippery slope. Looking at Howard County schools, it’s the same/similar division between employer and employee. Granted they are much smaller of a district but MCPS charging employees more when other districts do not will not go over well.

Insurance needs to adjust what they charge as do hospitals and other medical providers. But that’s another argument for another day - plus it’s not something mcps can control.

MCPS is self insured. They have control over premiums, copays, deductibles and coinsurance.

Yes. They do. But I was referring to what hospitals and other medical providers charge. It can be excessive.

Good luck with that. You're right, but it isn't going to happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the MCPS budget includes $40 million to plug the anticipated gap in the health insurance fund for employees. In other words, they already know the employer and employee premiums won't be enough to cover claims. Instead of working with the union to address this issue (by lowering costs and/or raising premiums), they are asking for millions from county taxpayers and threatening to cut services for students if we don't pay.

They need to change insurance plans and charge more for premiums like the county does and most employers.

That is a double-edged sword. The staffing crisis, particularly special ed teachers, paras, and SLPs, is only getting worse. Many people are very unhappy. And some of those unhappy people are only staying in the job because they feel handcuffed by having good insurance. If it gets expensive and worse, I promise you more people will quit, because they already wanted to and the last reason to put up with the garbage will be gone. They also already sold this year's change from CareFirst to Cigna as a way to get the same coverage for cheaper and appear to have gotten that spectacularly wrong or had one pulled over on them by Cigna, so why should anyone trust them to know what they're doing with this?

The solution to that is to do a targeted pay raise for SPED positions, and to provide benefits to paras. It's not fiscally practical to increase benefits for everyone.

It is more complicated than you think. Physics teachers are impossible to find. Should they raise their pay and not other teachers? PE teachers are very easy to find. Should they lower their pay?

Yes to Physics no to lowering pay for PE. Honestly much easier to simply put caps on CO bloat than nickle and diming everyone.

Guys, they still have to work out the health insurance issue. They have to reduce costs or increase premiums. MCPS pays for 83% of premiums so employees bear a minority of cost increases, which of course is still impactful. But a yearly injection of $40 million is not going to happen long term so they need to figure it out.

There's nothing to figure out. They need to raise the employee contributions to something a little closer to other public sector jobs.

Increasing premiums means increasing employer and employee contributions. Demanding $40 million and threatening not to fix moldy schools of they don't get it means MCPS as a system bears the entire cost.

They need to increase the employees' share of premiums. 12%/17% is incredibly low.

This is a slippery slope. Looking at Howard County schools, it’s the same/similar division between employer and employee. Granted they are much smaller of a district but MCPS charging employees more when other districts do not will not go over well.

Insurance needs to adjust what they charge as do hospitals and other medical providers. But that’s another argument for another day - plus it’s not something mcps can control.

Honestly MCEA will throw a fit even if they don't increase the cost share but just increase premiums. Unfortunately health care costs a lot and MoCo is a higher cost area than Howard and we have more low income students.

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Oh man. Is the lawsuit budget part of this?? Sure would have been nice if they didn’t give McKnight such a nice but unnecessary severance package.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the MCPS budget includes $40 million to plug the anticipated gap in the health insurance fund for employees. In other words, they already know the employer and employee premiums won't be enough to cover claims. Instead of working with the union to address this issue (by lowering costs and/or raising premiums), they are asking for millions from county taxpayers and threatening to cut services for students if we don't pay.

They need to change insurance plans and charge more for premiums like the county does and most employers.

That is a double-edged sword. The staffing crisis, particularly special ed teachers, paras, and SLPs, is only getting worse. Many people are very unhappy. And some of those unhappy people are only staying in the job because they feel handcuffed by having good insurance. If it gets expensive and worse, I promise you more people will quit, because they already wanted to and the last reason to put up with the garbage will be gone. They also already sold this year's change from CareFirst to Cigna as a way to get the same coverage for cheaper and appear to have gotten that spectacularly wrong or had one pulled over on them by Cigna, so why should anyone trust them to know what they're doing with this?

The solution to that is to do a targeted pay raise for SPED positions, and to provide benefits to paras. It's not fiscally practical to increase benefits for everyone.

It is more complicated than you think. Physics teachers are impossible to find. Should they raise their pay and not other teachers? PE teachers are very easy to find. Should they lower their pay?

Yes to Physics no to lowering pay for PE. Honestly much easier to simply put caps on CO bloat than nickle and diming everyone.

Guys, they still have to work out the health insurance issue. They have to reduce costs or increase premiums. MCPS pays for 83% of premiums so employees bear a minority of cost increases, which of course is still impactful. But a yearly injection of $40 million is not going to happen long term so they need to figure it out.

There's nothing to figure out. They need to raise the employee contributions to something a little closer to other public sector jobs.

Increasing premiums means increasing employer and employee contributions. Demanding $40 million and threatening not to fix moldy schools of they don't get it means MCPS as a system bears the entire cost.

They need to increase the employees' share of premiums. 12%/17% is incredibly low.

This is a slippery slope. Looking at Howard County schools, it’s the same/similar division between employer and employee. Granted they are much smaller of a district but MCPS charging employees more when other districts do not will not go over well.

Insurance needs to adjust what they charge as do hospitals and other medical providers. But that’s another argument for another day - plus it’s not something mcps can control.

Honestly MCEA will throw a fit even if they don't increase the cost share but just increase premiums. Unfortunately health care costs a lot and MoCo is a higher cost area than Howard and we have more low income students.

Agreed. And since this is a sanctuary county then the City Council absolutely should not put the burden of associated costs on shoulder’s of the county.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the MCPS budget includes $40 million to plug the anticipated gap in the health insurance fund for employees. In other words, they already know the employer and employee premiums won't be enough to cover claims. Instead of working with the union to address this issue (by lowering costs and/or raising premiums), they are asking for millions from county taxpayers and threatening to cut services for students if we don't pay.

They need to change insurance plans and charge more for premiums like the county does and most employers.

That is a double-edged sword. The staffing crisis, particularly special ed teachers, paras, and SLPs, is only getting worse. Many people are very unhappy. And some of those unhappy people are only staying in the job because they feel handcuffed by having good insurance. If it gets expensive and worse, I promise you more people will quit, because they already wanted to and the last reason to put up with the garbage will be gone. They also already sold this year's change from CareFirst to Cigna as a way to get the same coverage for cheaper and appear to have gotten that spectacularly wrong or had one pulled over on them by Cigna, so why should anyone trust them to know what they're doing with this?

The solution to that is to do a targeted pay raise for SPED positions, and to provide benefits to paras. It's not fiscally practical to increase benefits for everyone.

It is more complicated than you think. Physics teachers are impossible to find. Should they raise their pay and not other teachers? PE teachers are very easy to find. Should they lower their pay?

Yes to Physics no to lowering pay for PE. Honestly much easier to simply put caps on CO bloat than nickle and diming everyone.

Guys, they still have to work out the health insurance issue. They have to reduce costs or increase premiums. MCPS pays for 83% of premiums so employees bear a minority of cost increases, which of course is still impactful. But a yearly injection of $40 million is not going to happen long term so they need to figure it out.

There's nothing to figure out. They need to raise the employee contributions to something a little closer to other public sector jobs.

Increasing premiums means increasing employer and employee contributions. Demanding $40 million and threatening not to fix moldy schools of they don't get it means MCPS as a system bears the entire cost.

They need to increase the employees' share of premiums. 12%/17% is incredibly low.

This is a slippery slope. Looking at Howard County schools, it’s the same/similar division between employer and employee. Granted they are much smaller of a district but MCPS charging employees more when other districts do not will not go over well.

Insurance needs to adjust what they charge as do hospitals and other medical providers. But that’s another argument for another day - plus it’s not something mcps can control.

Honestly MCEA will throw a fit even if they don't increase the cost share but just increase premiums. Unfortunately health care costs a lot and MoCo is a higher cost area than Howard and we have more low income students.

Agreed. And since this is a sanctuary county then the City Council absolutely should not put the burden of associated costs on shoulder’s of the county.

Lol where are you trolling from?

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Sorry. PP above. I meant the county needs to take this into anccount and not just make the schools figure out how to accommodate for all the changing dynamics.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the MCPS budget includes $40 million to plug the anticipated gap in the health insurance fund for employees. In other words, they already know the employer and employee premiums won't be enough to cover claims. Instead of working with the union to address this issue (by lowering costs and/or raising premiums), they are asking for millions from county taxpayers and threatening to cut services for students if we don't pay.

They need to change insurance plans and charge more for premiums like the county does and most employers.

That is a double-edged sword. The staffing crisis, particularly special ed teachers, paras, and SLPs, is only getting worse. Many people are very unhappy. And some of those unhappy people are only staying in the job because they feel handcuffed by having good insurance. If it gets expensive and worse, I promise you more people will quit, because they already wanted to and the last reason to put up with the garbage will be gone. They also already sold this year's change from CareFirst to Cigna as a way to get the same coverage for cheaper and appear to have gotten that spectacularly wrong or had one pulled over on them by Cigna, so why should anyone trust them to know what they're doing with this?

The solution to that is to do a targeted pay raise for SPED positions, and to provide benefits to paras. It's not fiscally practical to increase benefits for everyone.

It is more complicated than you think. Physics teachers are impossible to find. Should they raise their pay and not other teachers? PE teachers are very easy to find. Should they lower their pay?

Yes to Physics no to lowering pay for PE. Honestly much easier to simply put caps on CO bloat than nickle and diming everyone.

Guys, they still have to work out the health insurance issue. They have to reduce costs or increase premiums. MCPS pays for 83% of premiums so employees bear a minority of cost increases, which of course is still impactful. But a yearly injection of $40 million is not going to happen long term so they need to figure it out.

There's nothing to figure out. They need to raise the employee contributions to something a little closer to other public sector jobs.

Increasing premiums means increasing employer and employee contributions. Demanding $40 million and threatening not to fix moldy schools of they don't get it means MCPS as a system bears the entire cost.

They need to increase the employees' share of premiums. 12%/17% is incredibly low.

This is a slippery slope. Looking at Howard County schools, it’s the same/similar division between employer and employee. Granted they are much smaller of a district but MCPS charging employees more when other districts do not will not go over well.

Insurance needs to adjust what they charge as do hospitals and other medical providers. But that’s another argument for another day - plus it’s not something mcps can control.

Honestly MCEA will throw a fit even if they don't increase the cost share but just increase premiums. Unfortunately health care costs a lot and MoCo is a higher cost area than Howard and we have more low income students.

Agreed. And since this is a sanctuary county then the City Council absolutely should not put the burden of associated costs on shoulder’s of the county.

Lol where are you trolling from?

Are you new? Take a look at Elrich’s sanctuary policies. Major trickle down effect directly into the schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the MCPS budget includes $40 million to plug the anticipated gap in the health insurance fund for employees. In other words, they already know the employer and employee premiums won't be enough to cover claims. Instead of working with the union to address this issue (by lowering costs and/or raising premiums), they are asking for millions from county taxpayers and threatening to cut services for students if we don't pay.

They need to change insurance plans and charge more for premiums like the county does and most employers.

That is a double-edged sword. The staffing crisis, particularly special ed teachers, paras, and SLPs, is only getting worse. Many people are very unhappy. And some of those unhappy people are only staying in the job because they feel handcuffed by having good insurance. If it gets expensive and worse, I promise you more people will quit, because they already wanted to and the last reason to put up with the garbage will be gone. They also already sold this year's change from CareFirst to Cigna as a way to get the same coverage for cheaper and appear to have gotten that spectacularly wrong or had one pulled over on them by Cigna, so why should anyone trust them to know what they're doing with this?

The solution to that is to do a targeted pay raise for SPED positions, and to provide benefits to paras. It's not fiscally practical to increase benefits for everyone.

It is more complicated than you think. Physics teachers are impossible to find. Should they raise their pay and not other teachers? PE teachers are very easy to find. Should they lower their pay?

Yes to Physics no to lowering pay for PE. Honestly much easier to simply put caps on CO bloat than nickle and diming everyone.

Guys, they still have to work out the health insurance issue. They have to reduce costs or increase premiums. MCPS pays for 83% of premiums so employees bear a minority of cost increases, which of course is still impactful. But a yearly injection of $40 million is not going to happen long term so they need to figure it out.

There's nothing to figure out. They need to raise the employee contributions to something a little closer to other public sector jobs.

Increasing premiums means increasing employer and employee contributions. Demanding $40 million and threatening not to fix moldy schools of they don't get it means MCPS as a system bears the entire cost.

They need to increase the employees' share of premiums. 12%/17% is incredibly low.

This is a slippery slope. Looking at Howard County schools, it’s the same/similar division between employer and employee. Granted they are much smaller of a district but MCPS charging employees more when other districts do not will not go over well.

Insurance needs to adjust what they charge as do hospitals and other medical providers. But that’s another argument for another day - plus it’s not something mcps can control.

Honestly MCEA will throw a fit even if they don't increase the cost share but just increase premiums. Unfortunately health care costs a lot and MoCo is a higher cost area than Howard and we have more low income students.

Agreed. And since this is a sanctuary county then the City Council absolutely should not put the burden of associated costs on shoulder’s of the county.

Lol where are you trolling from?

Are you new? Take a look at Elrich’s sanctuary policies. Major trickle down effect directly into the schools.

You don't seem to know much about how Montgomery County works.