"diverse perspectives" portion of project grade

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Anonymous wrote:There's a related problem here -- since class information is in Google Drive/Classroom and not on paper or shared with parents' Synergy/Canvas, parents can't check in their kid's work without logging into the kid's account and sifting through all the apps. Much harder than going over the papers in a folder.

So parents are boxed out of checking their kid's work and making sure the kid follows the instructions. But that's a win for equity -- more fair to students with parents who don't care about schoolwork.

Why are you checking your child's homework?

Who doesn’t. That’s what a parent is supposed to do. Confirm they didn’t work and be available for support if needed. It builds a good healthy supporting relationship with your child if they know you are invested in their success, even notionally like just asking if they need help and got it all done.

Most parents? Parents can offer help if the child asks, but it's not the parents' homework, it's the child's homework.

Right. No one said for the parent to do the work. Offering help in understanding the work and confirming they did the work is not doing the work. Elementary and middle school kids sometimes don’t even understand homework.

And parents, at least based on the OP, who seems to have misunderstood the assignment.

We don’t actually know that do we?

Different opinions are great though.

I will continue to support my young kids in their studies in a reasonable manner.

The lack of parental support is the largest reason for the gaps in education today, IMO.

Have a good evening.

We do know that the OP misunderstood the OP's child's assignment.

Wait so OP responded with the teachers intent behind the statement in the rubric?

MCPS is interested in diverse perspectives explicitly in the k-12 curriculum as it relates to the anti-racist audit that was conducted recently and found that they would like the curriculum to be more diverse and noted the following finding in the equity audit tool as latent in a large percentage: “Teachers are equipped with the knowledge and skills to incorporate racially and ethnically diverse perspectives, experiences, and contributions into their classroom pedagogy.”

It’s entirely possible the teacher expected DEI-like content. Or did the teacher respond to this post?

That’s not quite what it means. The TEACHER is encouraged to bring differing viewpoints into the classroom. Meaning they should be embracing different cultures, persons of stature, important events, ect that traditionally have been omitted from school curricula.

And now for an assignment, the students may be expected to reflect these perspectives in their work.

In fact the term ‘diverse perspectives’ is found in a lot of DEI text, including explicitly in MCPS own documentation as it relates to topics like equity and inclusion.

It really isn’t that far fetched to think the teacher was looking for that.

It’s not some conspiracy or something to be defensive about either. DEI is part of our everyday whether people agree or disagree.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a related problem here -- since class information is in Google Drive/Classroom and not on paper or shared with parents' Synergy/Canvas, parents can't check in their kid's work without logging into the kid's account and sifting through all the apps. Much harder than going over the papers in a folder.

So parents are boxed out of checking their kid's work and making sure the kid follows the instructions. But that's a win for equity -- more fair to students with parents who don't care about schoolwork.

Why are you checking your child's homework?

Who doesn’t. That’s what a parent is supposed to do. Confirm they didn’t work and be available for support if needed. It builds a good healthy supporting relationship with your child if they know you are invested in their success, even notionally like just asking if they need help and got it all done.

Most parents? Parents can offer help if the child asks, but it's not the parents' homework, it's the child's homework.

Right. No one said for the parent to do the work. Offering help in understanding the work and confirming they did the work is not doing the work. Elementary and middle school kids sometimes don’t even understand homework.

And parents, at least based on the OP, who seems to have misunderstood the assignment.

We don’t actually know that do we?

Different opinions are great though.

I will continue to support my young kids in their studies in a reasonable manner.

The lack of parental support is the largest reason for the gaps in education today, IMO.

Have a good evening.

We do know that the OP misunderstood the OP's child's assignment.

Wait so OP responded with the teachers intent behind the statement in the rubric?

MCPS is interested in diverse perspectives explicitly in the k-12 curriculum as it relates to the anti-racist audit that was conducted recently and found that they would like the curriculum to be more diverse and noted the following finding in the equity audit tool as latent in a large percentage: “Teachers are equipped with the knowledge and skills to incorporate racially and ethnically diverse perspectives, experiences, and contributions into their classroom pedagogy.”

It’s entirely possible the teacher expected DEI-like content. Or did the teacher respond to this post?

That’s not quite what it means. The TEACHER is encouraged to bring differing viewpoints into the classroom. Meaning they should be embracing different cultures, persons of stature, important events, ect that traditionally have been omitted from school curricula.

And now for an assignment, the students may be expected to reflect these perspectives in their work.

In fact the term ‘diverse perspectives’ is found in a lot of DEI text, including explicitly in MCPS own documentation as it relates to topics like equity and inclusion.

It really isn’t that far fetched to think the teacher was looking for that.

It’s not some conspiracy or something to be defensive about either. DEI is part of our everyday whether people agree or disagree.

That’s fair. Except OP stated the teacher said that didn’t count as enough diversity after she was offered a regrading opportunity. So it doesn’t seem that is what the teacher was aiming for. Unless I interpreted it incorrectly.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a related problem here -- since class information is in Google Drive/Classroom and not on paper or shared with parents' Synergy/Canvas, parents can't check in their kid's work without logging into the kid's account and sifting through all the apps. Much harder than going over the papers in a folder.

So parents are boxed out of checking their kid's work and making sure the kid follows the instructions. But that's a win for equity -- more fair to students with parents who don't care about schoolwork.

Why are you checking your child's homework?

Who doesn’t. That’s what a parent is supposed to do. Confirm they didn’t work and be available for support if needed. It builds a good healthy supporting relationship with your child if they know you are invested in their success, even notionally like just asking if they need help and got it all done.

Most parents? Parents can offer help if the child asks, but it's not the parents' homework, it's the child's homework.

Right. No one said for the parent to do the work. Offering help in understanding the work and confirming they did the work is not doing the work. Elementary and middle school kids sometimes don’t even understand homework.

And parents, at least based on the OP, who seems to have misunderstood the assignment.

We don’t actually know that do we?

Different opinions are great though.

I will continue to support my young kids in their studies in a reasonable manner.

The lack of parental support is the largest reason for the gaps in education today, IMO.

Have a good evening.

We do know that the OP misunderstood the OP's child's assignment.

Wait so OP responded with the teachers intent behind the statement in the rubric?

MCPS is interested in diverse perspectives explicitly in the k-12 curriculum as it relates to the anti-racist audit that was conducted recently and found that they would like the curriculum to be more diverse and noted the following finding in the equity audit tool as latent in a large percentage: “Teachers are equipped with the knowledge and skills to incorporate racially and ethnically diverse perspectives, experiences, and contributions into their classroom pedagogy.”

It’s entirely possible the teacher expected DEI-like content. Or did the teacher respond to this post?

That’s not quite what it means. The TEACHER is encouraged to bring differing viewpoints into the classroom. Meaning they should be embracing different cultures, persons of stature, important events, ect that traditionally have been omitted from school curricula.

And now for an assignment, the students may be expected to reflect these perspectives in their work.

In fact the term ‘diverse perspectives’ is found in a lot of DEI text, including explicitly in MCPS own documentation as it relates to topics like equity and inclusion.

It really isn’t that far fetched to think the teacher was looking for that.

It’s not some conspiracy or something to be defensive about either. DEI is part of our everyday whether people agree or disagree.

That’s fair. Except OP stated the teacher said that didn’t count as enough diversity after she was offered a regrading opportunity. So it doesn’t seem that is what the teacher was aiming for. Unless I interpreted it incorrectly.

We don’t know what the student submitted either. Diversity in thought and approach can be represented in DEI-based diverse perspectives.

Simply restating a thesis or support and inserting a URM placeholder without appealing to the cultural differences of said URM doesnt meet the intent for either if we are being honest.

My DC has a bunch of generic teachers and one teacher that takes the DEI stuff to the nth degree. This is reality in MCPS annd the greater DMV and not a Fox News boogeyman.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's a related problem here -- since class information is in Google Drive/Classroom and not on paper or shared with parents' Synergy/Canvas, parents can't check in their kid's work without logging into the kid's account and sifting through all the apps. Much harder than going over the papers in a folder.

So parents are boxed out of checking their kid's work and making sure the kid follows the instructions. But that's a win for equity -- more fair to students with parents who don't care about schoolwork.

Why are you checking your child's homework?

Who doesn’t. That’s what a parent is supposed to do. Confirm they didn’t work and be available for support if needed. It builds a good healthy supporting relationship with your child if they know you are invested in their success, even notionally like just asking if they need help and got it all done.

Most parents? Parents can offer help if the child asks, but it's not the parents' homework, it's the child's homework.

Right. No one said for the parent to do the work. Offering help in understanding the work and confirming they did the work is not doing the work. Elementary and middle school kids sometimes don’t even understand homework.

And parents, at least based on the OP, who seems to have misunderstood the assignment.

We don’t actually know that do we?

Different opinions are great though.

I will continue to support my young kids in their studies in a reasonable manner.

The lack of parental support is the largest reason for the gaps in education today, IMO.

Have a good evening.

We do know that the OP misunderstood the OP's child's assignment.

Wait so OP responded with the teachers intent behind the statement in the rubric?

MCPS is interested in diverse perspectives explicitly in the k-12 curriculum as it relates to the anti-racist audit that was conducted recently and found that they would like the curriculum to be more diverse and noted the following finding in the equity audit tool as latent in a large percentage: “Teachers are equipped with the knowledge and skills to incorporate racially and ethnically diverse perspectives, experiences, and contributions into their classroom pedagogy.”

It’s entirely possible the teacher expected DEI-like content. Or did the teacher respond to this post?

That’s not quite what it means. The TEACHER is encouraged to bring differing viewpoints into the classroom. Meaning they should be embracing different cultures, persons of stature, important events, ect that traditionally have been omitted from school curricula.

And now for an assignment, the students may be expected to reflect these perspectives in their work.

In fact the term ‘diverse perspectives’ is found in a lot of DEI text, including explicitly in MCPS own documentation as it relates to topics like equity and inclusion.

It really isn’t that far fetched to think the teacher was looking for that.

It’s not some conspiracy or something to be defensive about either. DEI is part of our everyday whether people agree or disagree.

That’s fair. Except OP stated the teacher said that didn’t count as enough diversity after she was offered a regrading opportunity. So it doesn’t seem that is what the teacher was aiming for. Unless I interpreted it incorrectly.

We don’t know what the student submitted either. Diversity in thought and approach can be represented in DEI-based diverse perspectives.

Simply restating a thesis or support and inserting a URM placeholder without appealing to the cultural differences of said URM doesnt meet the intent for either if we are being honest.

My DC has a bunch of generic teachers and one teacher that takes the DEI stuff to the nth degree. This is reality in MCPS annd the greater DMV and not a Fox News boogeyman.

I think you are over thinking this. Most teachers are not that deep. Remember, it’s MCPS where grade inflation is rampant. Or so we see in these forums.

[Anonymous]

You might be over thinking this. Diverse perspectives could just mean addressing both
sides of an argument like pro/con or claim/counterclaim.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds stupid, which is par for the course with MCPS.

Diversity is a religion with these folks.

Not really; only a distorted type of diversity.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a related problem here -- since class information is in Google Drive/Classroom and not on paper or shared with parents' Synergy/Canvas, parents can't check in their kid's work without logging into the kid's account and sifting through all the apps. Much harder than going over the papers in a folder.

So parents are boxed out of checking their kid's work and making sure the kid follows the instructions. But that's a win for equity -- more fair to students with parents who don't care about schoolwork.

Why are you checking your child's homework?

Who doesn’t. That’s what a parent is supposed to do. Confirm they didn’t work and be available for support if needed. It builds a good healthy supporting relationship with your child if they know you are invested in their success, even notionally like just asking if they need help and got it all done.

Most parents? Parents can offer help if the child asks, but it's not the parents' homework, it's the child's homework.

Right. No one said for the parent to do the work. Offering help in understanding the work and confirming they did the work is not doing the work. Elementary and middle school kids sometimes don’t even understand homework.

And parents, at least based on the OP, who seems to have misunderstood the assignment.

We don’t actually know that do we?

Different opinions are great though.

I will continue to support my young kids in their studies in a reasonable manner.

The lack of parental support is the largest reason for the gaps in education today, IMO.

Have a good evening.

We do know that the OP misunderstood the OP's child's assignment.

Wait so OP responded with the teachers intent behind the statement in the rubric?

MCPS is interested in diverse perspectives explicitly in the k-12 curriculum as it relates to the anti-racist audit that was conducted recently and found that they would like the curriculum to be more diverse and noted the following finding in the equity audit tool as latent in a large percentage: “Teachers are equipped with the knowledge and skills to incorporate racially and ethnically diverse perspectives, experiences, and contributions into their classroom pedagogy.”

It’s entirely possible the teacher expected DEI-like content. Or did the teacher respond to this post?

That’s not quite what it means. The TEACHER is encouraged to bring differing viewpoints into the classroom. Meaning they should be embracing different cultures, persons of stature, important events, ect that traditionally have been omitted from school curricula.

And now for an assignment, the students may be expected to reflect these perspectives in their work.

In fact the term ‘diverse perspectives’ is found in a lot of DEI text, including explicitly in MCPS own documentation as it relates to topics like equity and inclusion.

It really isn’t that far fetched to think the teacher was looking for that.

It’s not some conspiracy or something to be defensive about either. DEI is part of our everyday whether people agree or disagree.

That’s fair. Except OP stated the teacher said that didn’t count as enough diversity after she was offered a regrading opportunity. So it doesn’t seem that is what the teacher was aiming for. Unless I interpreted it incorrectly.

We don’t know what the student submitted either. Diversity in thought and approach can be represented in DEI-based diverse perspectives.

Simply restating a thesis or support and inserting a URM placeholder without appealing to the cultural differences of said URM doesnt meet the intent for either if we are being honest.

My DC has a bunch of generic teachers and one teacher that takes the DEI stuff to the nth degree. This is reality in MCPS annd the greater DMV and not a Fox News boogeyman.

I think you are over thinking this. Most teachers are not that deep. Remember, it’s MCPS where grade inflation is rampant. Or so we see in these forums.

Yeah most aren’t but there are definitely some that are. My DC has one. It’s very possible this was a DEI prompt and the student didn’t do a good job. Not that complicated. I’m just glad you understand that now.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a related problem here -- since class information is in Google Drive/Classroom and not on paper or shared with parents' Synergy/Canvas, parents can't check in their kid's work without logging into the kid's account and sifting through all the apps. Much harder than going over the papers in a folder.

So parents are boxed out of checking their kid's work and making sure the kid follows the instructions. But that's a win for equity -- more fair to students with parents who don't care about schoolwork.

Why are you checking your child's homework?

Who doesn’t. That’s what a parent is supposed to do. Confirm they didn’t work and be available for support if needed. It builds a good healthy supporting relationship with your child if they know you are invested in their success, even notionally like just asking if they need help and got it all done.

Most parents? Parents can offer help if the child asks, but it's not the parents' homework, it's the child's homework.

Right. No one said for the parent to do the work. Offering help in understanding the work and confirming they did the work is not doing the work. Elementary and middle school kids sometimes don’t even understand homework.

And parents, at least based on the OP, who seems to have misunderstood the assignment.

We don’t actually know that do we?

Different opinions are great though.

I will continue to support my young kids in their studies in a reasonable manner.

The lack of parental support is the largest reason for the gaps in education today, IMO.

Have a good evening.

We do know that the OP misunderstood the OP's child's assignment.

Wait so OP responded with the teachers intent behind the statement in the rubric?

MCPS is interested in diverse perspectives explicitly in the k-12 curriculum as it relates to the anti-racist audit that was conducted recently and found that they would like the curriculum to be more diverse and noted the following finding in the equity audit tool as latent in a large percentage: “Teachers are equipped with the knowledge and skills to incorporate racially and ethnically diverse perspectives, experiences, and contributions into their classroom pedagogy.”

It’s entirely possible the teacher expected DEI-like content. Or did the teacher respond to this post?

That’s not quite what it means. The TEACHER is encouraged to bring differing viewpoints into the classroom. Meaning they should be embracing different cultures, persons of stature, important events, ect that traditionally have been omitted from school curricula.

And now for an assignment, the students may be expected to reflect these perspectives in their work.

In fact the term ‘diverse perspectives’ is found in a lot of DEI text, including explicitly in MCPS own documentation as it relates to topics like equity and inclusion.

It really isn’t that far fetched to think the teacher was looking for that.

It’s not some conspiracy or something to be defensive about either. DEI is part of our everyday whether people agree or disagree.

That’s fair. Except OP stated the teacher said that didn’t count as enough diversity after she was offered a regrading opportunity. So it doesn’t seem that is what the teacher was aiming for. Unless I interpreted it incorrectly.

We don’t know what the student submitted either. Diversity in thought and approach can be represented in DEI-based diverse perspectives.

Simply restating a thesis or support and inserting a URM placeholder without appealing to the cultural differences of said URM doesnt meet the intent for either if we are being honest.

My DC has a bunch of generic teachers and one teacher that takes the DEI stuff to the nth degree. This is reality in MCPS annd the greater DMV and not a Fox News boogeyman.

I think you are over thinking this. Most teachers are not that deep. Remember, it’s MCPS where grade inflation is rampant. Or so we see in these forums.

Yeah most aren’t but there are definitely some that are. My DC has one. It’s very possible this was a DEI prompt and the student didn’t do a good job. Not that complicated. I’m just glad you understand that now.

It's possible, but it's highly unlikely, and OP - who interpreted it as such, and got their kid marked down - hasn't been back to say.

Provide diverse perspectives/viewpoints about Topic X = Don't just present one, present several. Not that complicated. Nothing new. Nothing dangerously left-wing.

[Anonymous]

Homework is not a “parent project.” You already went to school. It’s your kid’s turn now. This whole story is about a parent who feels they were graded unfairly. Stop doing your kid’s work. — a teacher

[Anonymous]

OP update: teacher apologized to the class for the ambiguity in the rubric, and students will be writing an appendix to make up missing points in their score. I don't know if other students who originally scored 80% or less lost their points for the same rubric items as my DC did, or for different items.

Some wild comments on this thread. Have a glass of wine or a cheese plate and relax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm with you OP. How to have diverse perspectives without guidelines; and what if someone has no idea or access to a "diverse" perspective?

I'm all for diversity, but I'm finding that it's more about virtue signaling and punishing people for being unaware or uneducated or confused rather than building bridges and encouraging understanding.

Teacher should have graded based on expectations. THEN a good gesture would be to offer extra credit to kids who wanted to expand their project with some goodwill pointers and tips on where to add "diversity perspectives"

It's just alienating everyone.

Well, MCPS does not allow teachers to give extra credit.

[Anonymous]

Just because you, as the parent, don't know what "diverse perspectives" requires, doesn't mean that the teacher did not address this in class. Students need to take some responsibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP update: teacher apologized to the class for the ambiguity in the rubric, and students will be writing an appendix to make up missing points in their score. I don't know if other students who originally scored 80% or less lost their points for the same rubric items as my DC did, or for different items.

Some wild comments on this thread. Have a glass of wine or a cheese plate and relax.

So OP, you haven’t clarified. What did the teacher mean by “ diverse perspectives”? I’ll prepare a cheese plate while I’m waiting.

[Anonymous]

I'm really curious what grade your child is in, OP. If you hadn't said that you worked on the project, I would have assumed ES, but there is no way one assignment in ES would count for such a large percentage of the grade, so I assume this is secondary school and that you are providing too much assistance. You are not the one in school!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP update: teacher apologized to the class for the ambiguity in the rubric, and students will be writing an appendix to make up missing points in their score. I don't know if other students who originally scored 80% or less lost their points for the same rubric items as my DC did, or for different items.

Some wild comments on this thread. Have a glass of wine or a cheese plate and relax.

My advice: next time your child asks for help understanding the teacher's assignment, suggest that your child ask the teacher.