No posted grades until interims

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Anonymous wrote:High school English teacher posted no grades this quarter until this morning when interims are due and then about 10 assignments posted. Are teachers allowed to do this?

Check MCPS regulation on grading and reporting. There is some language in their about teachers being obligated to return work promptly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here - in my case graded assignments weren’t on Canvas either.

Go nuclear on this. It robs children of the chance to correct their work and improve. Start with counselor and grade level administrator. The grade book is never "really" closed. Yoir child should have the opportunity for retakes just like every other student in the school district.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - in my case graded assignments weren’t on Canvas either.

Go nuclear on this. It robs children of the chance to correct their work and improve. Start with counselor and grade level administrator. The grade book is never "really" closed. Yoir child should have the opportunity for retakes just like every other student in the school district.

Nuclear? Take a breath.

[Anonymous]

At our school, they barely even post-internships. I mean, they do sometimes, but not always. They don't use the grade book and only send some tests home. For example, one of my kids had an A in social studies on their interim. Every paper that came home had an A. At the end of the quarter, they had a B. I asked the teacher about it and was told it was because of assessments they can't send home. This seems kind of bad to me.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sympathetic irl the teachers but they should be sympathetic to the kids too. My kid was absent and thought they had made everything up last week. I even emailed the teacher to ask and they said it was all in but grades hadn’t posted. Grades now posted and it turns out kid missed a test ! I’m pretty upset.

Have you checked in again with the teacher? You’re keeping track of one child’s grade. They are keeping track of many. (If this is high school, it could be over 150 students.) Teachers are also parents, so they are keeping track of their own kids’ grades.

It’s easy to make a mistake when you are in charge of that volume of data. It’s possible this was a simply oversight from a teacher who has 45 minutes to do 7-8 hours of work.

Just check back in. Most teachers will say “oops! Let me fix this.”

The teachers response was that they had done okay on the subsequent test….but that F on a test is really dragging down the overall grade. I asked them to reconsider but haven’t heard back, which might be that they are busy or might be their way of telling me to jump in a lake.

My personal experience with dozens and dozens of MCPS teachers is that the vast majority are totally reasonable about this stuff .

I neve respond to parent requests regarding grades. That always should come from the student, otherwise they won’t put in the effort or the work to improve. It has to come from them. Good on that teacher.

That is really cruel of you. For a 14 year old child that has been told “oh you missed the date”, you expect them to do their own self advocacy with an adult in a position of authority in all cases? Think more about the power dynamics of that. If you had to go in and make your case to someone with a lot more power than you (a judge) you might reasonable want an advocate to assist you. Heck, I bet you might even call your union rep to assist you if you feel like your principal has not given you a fair hearing with respect to an issue.

What are you even going on about. Jesus take the wheel. If they don’t learn how to do this in a safe environment at school with someone who knows them then they really are going to struggle in the real world. It’s not cruel. I never let them slip. If they are failing I know. I communicate with them. They are responsible for their grade. Not their parent. Especially not their parent at 14. We want our students to be successful away from you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:High school English teacher posted no grades this quarter until this morning when interims are due and then about 10 assignments posted. Are teachers allowed to do this?

W school
Spanish teacher.
AP Psychology teacher

Nope never ever put items in.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sympathetic irl the teachers but they should be sympathetic to the kids too. My kid was absent and thought they had made everything up last week. I even emailed the teacher to ask and they said it was all in but grades hadn’t posted. Grades now posted and it turns out kid missed a test ! I’m pretty upset.

Have you checked in again with the teacher? You’re keeping track of one child’s grade. They are keeping track of many. (If this is high school, it could be over 150 students.) Teachers are also parents, so they are keeping track of their own kids’ grades.

It’s easy to make a mistake when you are in charge of that volume of data. It’s possible this was a simply oversight from a teacher who has 45 minutes to do 7-8 hours of work.

Just check back in. Most teachers will say “oops! Let me fix this.”

The teachers response was that they had done okay on the subsequent test….but that F on a test is really dragging down the overall grade. I asked them to reconsider but haven’t heard back, which might be that they are busy or might be their way of telling me to jump in a lake.

My personal experience with dozens and dozens of MCPS teachers is that the vast majority are totally reasonable about this stuff .

I neve respond to parent requests regarding grades. That always should come from the student, otherwise they won’t put in the effort or the work to improve. It has to come from them. Good on that teacher.

That is really cruel of you. For a 14 year old child that has been told “oh you missed the date”, you expect them to do their own self advocacy with an adult in a position of authority in all cases? Think more about the power dynamics of that. If you had to go in and make your case to someone with a lot more power than you (a judge) you might reasonable want an advocate to assist you. Heck, I bet you might even call your union rep to assist you if you feel like your principal has not given you a fair hearing with respect to an issue.

What are you even going on about. Jesus take the wheel. If they don’t learn how to do this in a safe environment at school with someone who knows them then they really are going to struggle in the real world. It’s not cruel. I never let them slip. If they are failing I know. I communicate with them. They are responsible for their grade. Not their parent. Especially not their parent at 14. We want our students to be successful away from you.

+1000. I hope, that for this grading period, the mic has been dropped by this wise teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At our school, they barely even post-internships. I mean, they do sometimes, but not always. They don't use the grade book and only send some tests home. For example, one of my kids had an A in social studies on their interim. Every paper that came home had an A. At the end of the quarter, they had a B. I asked the teacher about it and was told it was because of assessments they can't send home. This seems kind of bad to me.

They can’t send the assessment home but that doesn’t mean that can’t send the grade home. If it’s going to be factored into the grading, students should know what’s being factored in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At our school, they barely even post-internships. I mean, they do sometimes, but not always. They don't use the grade book and only send some tests home. For example, one of my kids had an A in social studies on their interim. Every paper that came home had an A. At the end of the quarter, they had a B. I asked the teacher about it and was told it was because of assessments they can't send home. This seems kind of bad to me.

They can’t send the assessment home but that doesn’t mean that can’t send the grade home. If it’s going to be factored into the grading, students should know what’s being factored in.

Then the student can ask the teacher. Done. MoCo has the whiniest parents of any district I've ever lived in. It's absurd the amount of hand holding you expect from schools,admin, teachers, etc. instead of teaching your kids to advocate for themselves and hold themselves accountable for their own grades, actions, behaviors, etc. etc. etc. etc....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At our school, they barely even post-internships. I mean, they do sometimes, but not always. They don't use the grade book and only send some tests home. For example, one of my kids had an A in social studies on their interim. Every paper that came home had an A. At the end of the quarter, they had a B. I asked the teacher about it and was told it was because of assessments they can't send home. This seems kind of bad to me.

They can’t send the assessment home but that doesn’t mean that can’t send the grade home. If it’s going to be factored into the grading, students should know what’s being factored in.

Then the student can ask the teacher. Done. MoCo has the whiniest parents of any district I've ever lived in. It's absurd the amount of hand holding you expect from schools,admin, teachers, etc. instead of teaching your kids to advocate for themselves and hold themselves accountable for their own grades, actions, behaviors, etc. etc. etc. etc....

No, we expect teachers to do the job they are paid for, which includes communicating with students and their parents.

[Anonymous]

By making the teachers lives difficult it is causing more and more to leave the profession so even fewer teachers will be available to be stretched even thinner. Just know the dynamic that teachers have to deal with when they are asked to do everything and more for the kids but get no support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:At our school, they barely even post-internships. I mean, they do sometimes, but not always. They don't use the grade book and only send some tests home. For example, one of my kids had an A in social studies on their interim. Every paper that came home had an A. At the end of the quarter, they had a B. I asked the teacher about it and was told it was because of assessments they can't send home. This seems kind of bad to me.

They can’t send the assessment home but that doesn’t mean that can’t send the grade home. If it’s going to be factored into the grading, students should know what’s being factored in.

Then the student can ask the teacher. Done. MoCo has the whiniest parents of any district I've ever lived in. It's absurd the amount of hand holding you expect from schools,admin, teachers, etc. instead of teaching your kids to advocate for themselves and hold themselves accountable for their own grades, actions, behaviors, etc. etc. etc. etc....

No, we expect teachers to do the job they are paid for, which includes communicating with students and their parents.

Well these days I'm happy if they just show up over 70% of the time. My kid's teacher for the past year is out at least 1 week per month.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sympathetic irl the teachers but they should be sympathetic to the kids too. My kid was absent and thought they had made everything up last week. I even emailed the teacher to ask and they said it was all in but grades hadn’t posted. Grades now posted and it turns out kid missed a test ! I’m pretty upset.

Have you checked in again with the teacher? You’re keeping track of one child’s grade. They are keeping track of many. (If this is high school, it could be over 150 students.) Teachers are also parents, so they are keeping track of their own kids’ grades.

It’s easy to make a mistake when you are in charge of that volume of data. It’s possible this was a simply oversight from a teacher who has 45 minutes to do 7-8 hours of work.

Just check back in. Most teachers will say “oops! Let me fix this.”

The teachers response was that they had done okay on the subsequent test….but that F on a test is really dragging down the overall grade. I asked them to reconsider but haven’t heard back, which might be that they are busy or might be their way of telling me to jump in a lake.

My personal experience with dozens and dozens of MCPS teachers is that the vast majority are totally reasonable about this stuff .

I neve respond to parent requests regarding grades. That always should come from the student, otherwise they won’t put in the effort or the work to improve. It has to come from them. Good on that teacher.

That is really cruel of you. For a 14 year old child that has been told “oh you missed the date”, you expect them to do their own self advocacy with an adult in a position of authority in all cases? Think more about the power dynamics of that. If you had to go in and make your case to someone with a lot more power than you (a judge) you might reasonable want an advocate to assist you. Heck, I bet you might even call your union rep to assist you if you feel like your principal has not given you a fair hearing with respect to an issue.

What are you even going on about. Jesus take the wheel. If they don’t learn how to do this in a safe environment at school with someone who knows them then they really are going to struggle in the real world. It’s not cruel. I never let them slip. If they are failing I know. I communicate with them. They are responsible for their grade. Not their parent. Especially not their parent at 14. We want our students to be successful away from you.

Kids lie and tell you they are ok when they are not. As a parent ultimately I am responsible and it’s my job to help them be successful. Most teachers barely teach, no textbooks and aren’t available for help nor respond to emails. I have my kids email and only two out of seven teachers respond.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:By making the teachers lives difficult it is causing more and more to leave the profession so even fewer teachers will be available to be stretched even thinner. Just know the dynamic that teachers have to deal with when they are asked to do everything and more for the kids but get no support.

You don’t take that out on the kids and don’t grade their assignments. Do them online and use auto grade if you don’t want to grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here - in my case graded assignments weren’t on Canvas either.

Go nuclear on this. It robs children of the chance to correct their work and improve. Start with counselor and grade level administrator. The grade book is never "really" closed. Yoir child should have the opportunity for retakes just like every other student in the school district.

Retakes are so inconsistent between schools.