No posted grades until interims

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Anonymous wrote:High school English teacher posted no grades this quarter until this morning when interims are due and then about 10 assignments posted. Are teachers allowed to do this?

They are not supposed to and I would recommend emailing the RT and assistant principal about this. Unfortunately, this is happening more often because teachers are stretched thin with all the tasks they are being assigned by administration. Teachers used to be able to focus their time on lesson development, grading and feedback. Now time is being wasted on useless meetings, documentation of documentation, and focusing a tremendous amount of attention on no show students and those that don't do anything. Teachers should be posting grades regularly but I see how some fall behind and have a hard time catching up.

Teachers need to grade so kids know how they are doing. No excuse for this.

Typically, if students have a low grade at interims, they haven't been getting their work done. No excuse for this.

Some kids may not know if they are doing the work and struggling if things aren't graded.

Great life lesson in learning how to advocate for one’s self. My high schooler has an IEP for social and general anxiety and he advocates and asks his teachers about what’s going on with his grade. He still is a work in progress, but I’d rather he test the waters (i.e. consequences) now rather than when he is expected to be self sufficient as an adult. I don’t even check ParentVue. I ask him what’s going on and help him brainstorm ways to ask without overwhelming him. Just another way of looking at things.

Your kid is just so much better than mine. Not all teachers respond to emails from the students or parents and when kids walk up to some teachers, some will help and others will not. You should be checking parentvue.

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Anonymous wrote:High school English teacher posted no grades this quarter until this morning when interims are due and then about 10 assignments posted. Are teachers allowed to do this?

They are not supposed to and I would recommend emailing the RT and assistant principal about this. Unfortunately, this is happening more often because teachers are stretched thin with all the tasks they are being assigned by administration. Teachers used to be able to focus their time on lesson development, grading and feedback. Now time is being wasted on useless meetings, documentation of documentation, and focusing a tremendous amount of attention on no show students and those that don't do anything. Teachers should be posting grades regularly but I see how some fall behind and have a hard time catching up.

Teachers need to grade so kids know how they are doing. No excuse for this.

Typically, if students have a low grade at interims, they haven't been getting their work done. No excuse for this.

Some kids may not know if they are doing the work and struggling if things aren't graded.

Great life lesson in learning how to advocate for one’s self. My high schooler has an IEP for social and general anxiety and he advocates and asks his teachers about what’s going on with his grade. He still is a work in progress, but I’d rather he test the waters (i.e. consequences) now rather than when he is expected to be self sufficient as an adult. I don’t even check ParentVue. I ask him what’s going on and help him brainstorm ways to ask without overwhelming him. Just another way of looking at things.

Your kid is just so much better than mine. Not all teachers respond to emails from the students or parents and when kids walk up to some teachers, some will help and others will not. You should be checking parentvue.

Excuses excuses. Everytime someone posts an alternative way to approach a situation DCUM always finds a way to pick at it and complain. Keep on making excuses for everything instead of trying to help your kids learn how to navigate life. You are their support system; they are the ones responsible for their grades.

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Anonymous wrote:High school English teacher posted no grades this quarter until this morning when interims are due and then about 10 assignments posted. Are teachers allowed to do this?

They are not supposed to and I would recommend emailing the RT and assistant principal about this. Unfortunately, this is happening more often because teachers are stretched thin with all the tasks they are being assigned by administration. Teachers used to be able to focus their time on lesson development, grading and feedback. Now time is being wasted on useless meetings, documentation of documentation, and focusing a tremendous amount of attention on no show students and those that don't do anything. Teachers should be posting grades regularly but I see how some fall behind and have a hard time catching up.

Teachers need to grade so kids know how they are doing. No excuse for this.

Typically, if students have a low grade at interims, they haven't been getting their work done. No excuse for this.

Some kids may not know if they are doing the work and struggling if things aren't graded.

Great life lesson in learning how to advocate for one’s self. My high schooler has an IEP for social and general anxiety and he advocates and asks his teachers about what’s going on with his grade. He still is a work in progress, but I’d rather he test the waters (i.e. consequences) now rather than when he is expected to be self sufficient as an adult. I don’t even check ParentVue. I ask him what’s going on and help him brainstorm ways to ask without overwhelming him. Just another way of looking at things.

Your kid is just so much better than mine. Not all teachers respond to emails from the students or parents and when kids walk up to some teachers, some will help and others will not. You should be checking parentvue.

Excuses excuses. Everytime someone posts an alternative way to approach a situation DCUM always finds a way to pick at it and complain. Keep on making excuses for everything instead of trying to help your kids learn how to navigate life. You are their support system; they are the ones responsible for their grades.

I think you are referring to the wrong person as we are far more involved than you. We are going to support our kids to make sure they succeed. If teachers don’t grade assessments and review them, what’s the point? I’m not going to let mine fail. If you do that’s on you.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sympathetic irl the teachers but they should be sympathetic to the kids too. My kid was absent and thought they had made everything up last week. I even emailed the teacher to ask and they said it was all in but grades hadn’t posted. Grades now posted and it turns out kid missed a test ! I’m pretty upset.

Have you checked in again with the teacher? You’re keeping track of one child’s grade. They are keeping track of many. (If this is high school, it could be over 150 students.) Teachers are also parents, so they are keeping track of their own kids’ grades.

It’s easy to make a mistake when you are in charge of that volume of data. It’s possible this was a simply oversight from a teacher who has 45 minutes to do 7-8 hours of work.

Just check back in. Most teachers will say “oops! Let me fix this.”

The teachers response was that they had done okay on the subsequent test….but that F on a test is really dragging down the overall grade. I asked them to reconsider but haven’t heard back, which might be that they are busy or might be their way of telling me to jump in a lake.

My personal experience with dozens and dozens of MCPS teachers is that the vast majority are totally reasonable about this stuff .

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Anonymous wrote:High school English teacher posted no grades this quarter until this morning when interims are due and then about 10 assignments posted. Are teachers allowed to do this?

They are not supposed to and I would recommend emailing the RT and assistant principal about this. Unfortunately, this is happening more often because teachers are stretched thin with all the tasks they are being assigned by administration. Teachers used to be able to focus their time on lesson development, grading and feedback. Now time is being wasted on useless meetings, documentation of documentation, and focusing a tremendous amount of attention on no show students and those that don't do anything. Teachers should be posting grades regularly but I see how some fall behind and have a hard time catching up.

Teachers need to grade so kids know how they are doing. No excuse for this.

Typically, if students have a low grade at interims, they haven't been getting their work done. No excuse for this.

Some kids may not know if they are doing the work and struggling if things aren't graded.

Great life lesson in learning how to advocate for one’s self. My high schooler has an IEP for social and general anxiety and he advocates and asks his teachers about what’s going on with his grade. He still is a work in progress, but I’d rather he test the waters (i.e. consequences) now rather than when he is expected to be self sufficient as an adult. I don’t even check ParentVue. I ask him what’s going on and help him brainstorm ways to ask without overwhelming him. Just another way of looking at things.

Your kid is just so much better than mine. Not all teachers respond to emails from the students or parents and when kids walk up to some teachers, some will help and others will not. You should be checking parentvue.

Excuses excuses. Everytime someone posts an alternative way to approach a situation DCUM always finds a way to pick at it and complain. Keep on making excuses for everything instead of trying to help your kids learn how to navigate life. You are their support system; they are the ones responsible for their grades.

I think you are referring to the wrong person as we are far more involved than you. We are going to support our kids to make sure they succeed. If teachers don’t grade assessments and review them, what’s the point? I’m not going to let mine fail. If you do that’s on you.

🏆 here’s your trophy for parent of the year. How’s the view from up on your high horse?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sympathetic irl the teachers but they should be sympathetic to the kids too. My kid was absent and thought they had made everything up last week. I even emailed the teacher to ask and they said it was all in but grades hadn’t posted. Grades now posted and it turns out kid missed a test ! I’m pretty upset.

Have you checked in again with the teacher? You’re keeping track of one child’s grade. They are keeping track of many. (If this is high school, it could be over 150 students.) Teachers are also parents, so they are keeping track of their own kids’ grades.

It’s easy to make a mistake when you are in charge of that volume of data. It’s possible this was a simply oversight from a teacher who has 45 minutes to do 7-8 hours of work.

Just check back in. Most teachers will say “oops! Let me fix this.”

The teachers response was that they had done okay on the subsequent test….but that F on a test is really dragging down the overall grade. I asked them to reconsider but haven’t heard back, which might be that they are busy or might be their way of telling me to jump in a lake.

My personal experience with dozens and dozens of MCPS teachers is that the vast majority are totally reasonable about this stuff .

I neve respond to parent requests regarding grades. That always should come from the student, otherwise they won’t put in the effort or the work to improve. It has to come from them. Good on that teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:High school English teacher posted no grades this quarter until this morning when interims are due and then about 10 assignments posted. Are teachers allowed to do this?

They are not supposed to and I would recommend emailing the RT and assistant principal about this. Unfortunately, this is happening more often because teachers are stretched thin with all the tasks they are being assigned by administration. Teachers used to be able to focus their time on lesson development, grading and feedback. Now time is being wasted on useless meetings, documentation of documentation, and focusing a tremendous amount of attention on no show students and those that don't do anything. Teachers should be posting grades regularly but I see how some fall behind and have a hard time catching up.

Teachers need to grade so kids know how they are doing. No excuse for this.

You are free to get certified then and help out.

I’ve spent many years in a lower paying similar profession. I did my time. And, I have helped out a lot at our schools. Why don’t you?

Well, bring that experience into a classroom. We need you to show us how it’s done.

I was up at 4am grading today. I graded for about 7 hours on Sunday. I’ll be at it again about 9:30 tonight.

I get my grades posted regularly, but grading is all I ever do. I’m starting to really admire the teachers who put work second to their own lives.

And not only did you have to grade for overwhelming hours, you have to PLAN and DELIVER lessons, and manage a classroom, while also going to meetings, doing duty hours and substitute teach for those teachers who are out. I don't really know other teachers who put work second to their own lives. I also don't know any who get enough sleep.

Parents, if you don't like interim grades, go through your children's assignments with THEM every day from here until the end of the year.

We got through and monitor all the assignments but you cannot do that easily if you don't get them back or are graded and posted.

You have the option to contact the teacher. As a teacher, I appreciate parents who check in.

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Anonymous wrote:High school English teacher posted no grades this quarter until this morning when interims are due and then about 10 assignments posted. Are teachers allowed to do this?

They are not supposed to and I would recommend emailing the RT and assistant principal about this. Unfortunately, this is happening more often because teachers are stretched thin with all the tasks they are being assigned by administration. Teachers used to be able to focus their time on lesson development, grading and feedback. Now time is being wasted on useless meetings, documentation of documentation, and focusing a tremendous amount of attention on no show students and those that don't do anything. Teachers should be posting grades regularly but I see how some fall behind and have a hard time catching up.

Teachers need to grade so kids know how they are doing. No excuse for this.

You are free to get certified then and help out.

I’ve spent many years in a lower paying similar profession. I did my time. And, I have helped out a lot at our schools. Why don’t you?

Well, bring that experience into a classroom. We need you to show us how it’s done.

I was up at 4am grading today. I graded for about 7 hours on Sunday. I’ll be at it again about 9:30 tonight.

I get my grades posted regularly, but grading is all I ever do. I’m starting to really admire the teachers who put work second to their own lives.

And not only did you have to grade for overwhelming hours, you have to PLAN and DELIVER lessons, and manage a classroom, while also going to meetings, doing duty hours and substitute teach for those teachers who are out. I don't really know other teachers who put work second to their own lives. I also don't know any who get enough sleep.

Parents, if you don't like interim grades, go through your children's assignments with THEM every day from here until the end of the year.

We got through and monitor all the assignments but you cannot do that easily if you don't get them back or are graded and posted.

You have the option to contact the teacher. As a teacher, I appreciate parents who check in.

Problem is some teachers are great and respond and others never respond.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sympathetic irl the teachers but they should be sympathetic to the kids too. My kid was absent and thought they had made everything up last week. I even emailed the teacher to ask and they said it was all in but grades hadn’t posted. Grades now posted and it turns out kid missed a test ! I’m pretty upset.

Have you checked in again with the teacher? You’re keeping track of one child’s grade. They are keeping track of many. (If this is high school, it could be over 150 students.) Teachers are also parents, so they are keeping track of their own kids’ grades.

It’s easy to make a mistake when you are in charge of that volume of data. It’s possible this was a simply oversight from a teacher who has 45 minutes to do 7-8 hours of work.

Just check back in. Most teachers will say “oops! Let me fix this.”

The teachers response was that they had done okay on the subsequent test….but that F on a test is really dragging down the overall grade. I asked them to reconsider but haven’t heard back, which might be that they are busy or might be their way of telling me to jump in a lake.

My personal experience with dozens and dozens of MCPS teachers is that the vast majority are totally reasonable about this stuff .

I neve respond to parent requests regarding grades. That always should come from the student, otherwise they won’t put in the effort or the work to improve. It has to come from them. Good on that teacher.

That is really cruel of you. For a 14 year old child that has been told “oh you missed the date”, you expect them to do their own self advocacy with an adult in a position of authority in all cases? Think more about the power dynamics of that. If you had to go in and make your case to someone with a lot more power than you (a judge) you might reasonable want an advocate to assist you. Heck, I bet you might even call your union rep to assist you if you feel like your principal has not given you a fair hearing with respect to an issue.

[Anonymous]

Along the lines of no grades posted until interims are due, does anyone else have a problem with teachers putting grades into Synergy but never returning assignments and/or providing feedback on anything to students?

My kid is in 5th grade and hasn't gotten anything but a few math tests back from second quarter and nothing so far from 3rd. It is a concern because A) my kid never learns what they did wrong or what they could improve upon for next time and B) the teacher makes a lot of mistakes, doesn't teach the curriculum correctly (and didn't even bother to teach any social studies second quarter), and plays favorites, so we don't ever know if my kid actually did something wrong on an assignment, there might have been a potential mistake in the system, or if she was just annoyed and gave a grade as a result (which she seems to have done before). It's very frustrating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Along the lines of no grades posted until interims are due, does anyone else have a problem with teachers putting grades into Synergy but never returning assignments and/or providing feedback on anything to students?

My kid is in 5th grade and hasn't gotten anything but a few math tests back from second quarter and nothing so far from 3rd. It is a concern because A) my kid never learns what they did wrong or what they could improve upon for next time and B) the teacher makes a lot of mistakes, doesn't teach the curriculum correctly (and didn't even bother to teach any social studies second quarter), and plays favorites, so we don't ever know if my kid actually did something wrong on an assignment, there might have been a potential mistake in the system, or if she was just annoyed and gave a grade as a result (which she seems to have done before). It's very frustrating.

If this is true, none of this is okay.

But we’re going to see more of this since we can’t keep teachers. Those who do the job correctly are burning out and quitting at record rates. Those who cut all the corners are the ones who will remain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Along the lines of no grades posted until interims are due, does anyone else have a problem with teachers putting grades into Synergy but never returning assignments and/or providing feedback on anything to students?

My kid is in 5th grade and hasn't gotten anything but a few math tests back from second quarter and nothing so far from 3rd. It is a concern because A) my kid never learns what they did wrong or what they could improve upon for next time and B) the teacher makes a lot of mistakes, doesn't teach the curriculum correctly (and didn't even bother to teach any social studies second quarter), and plays favorites, so we don't ever know if my kid actually did something wrong on an assignment, there might have been a potential mistake in the system, or if she was just annoyed and gave a grade as a result (which she seems to have done before). It's very frustrating.

I provide extensive feedback, but few students or parents bother to look at it. Then, I get emails asking me to explain a grade. I redirect the kid or parent back to Canvas, but my time reading and responding to the email is time wasted. I wish we had a LMS that required the viewer to read the comments before they could see the grade.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sympathetic irl the teachers but they should be sympathetic to the kids too. My kid was absent and thought they had made everything up last week. I even emailed the teacher to ask and they said it was all in but grades hadn’t posted. Grades now posted and it turns out kid missed a test ! I’m pretty upset.

Have you checked in again with the teacher? You’re keeping track of one child’s grade. They are keeping track of many. (If this is high school, it could be over 150 students.) Teachers are also parents, so they are keeping track of their own kids’ grades.

It’s easy to make a mistake when you are in charge of that volume of data. It’s possible this was a simply oversight from a teacher who has 45 minutes to do 7-8 hours of work.

Just check back in. Most teachers will say “oops! Let me fix this.”

The teachers response was that they had done okay on the subsequent test….but that F on a test is really dragging down the overall grade. I asked them to reconsider but haven’t heard back, which might be that they are busy or might be their way of telling me to jump in a lake.

My personal experience with dozens and dozens of MCPS teachers is that the vast majority are totally reasonable about this stuff .

I neve respond to parent requests regarding grades. That always should come from the student, otherwise they won’t put in the effort or the work to improve. It has to come from them. Good on that teacher.

Not all kids are comfortable or able to talk to the teacher or willing. Mine had some really bad teachers and there are only a few they’d reach out to despite us trying to encourage them. If you refuse to work with parents you are a huge problem and there is a good reason why kids will not approach you as you are not approachable. For sone kids, they need more support.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Along the lines of no grades posted until interims are due, does anyone else have a problem with teachers putting grades into Synergy but never returning assignments and/or providing feedback on anything to students?

My kid is in 5th grade and hasn't gotten anything but a few math tests back from second quarter and nothing so far from 3rd. It is a concern because A) my kid never learns what they did wrong or what they could improve upon for next time and B) the teacher makes a lot of mistakes, doesn't teach the curriculum correctly (and didn't even bother to teach any social studies second quarter), and plays favorites, so we don't ever know if my kid actually did something wrong on an assignment, there might have been a potential mistake in the system, or if she was just annoyed and gave a grade as a result (which she seems to have done before). It's very frustrating.

I provide extensive feedback, but few students or parents bother to look at it. Then, I get emails asking me to explain a grade. I redirect the kid or parent back to Canvas, but my time reading and responding to the email is time wasted. I wish we had a LMS that required the viewer to read the comments before they could see the grade.

You provide extensive feedback, but not all teachers do. I wish a couple of expectations would be set with parents:
1)If and how often to see student work come back
2) If feedback will be provided in Canvas or not
3) On looking at Canvas use the computer version not the mobile version
4) On looking at Canvas use Canvas Student not Canvas Parent
5) Encourage students to seek out teachers for feedback when the get something wrong or don’t understand. (Upper ES is a good time to start this training)


Beyond that I would tell parents that anytime you are concerned you have the right to email the teacher to ask questions and even request a Parent Teacher Conference. However, I do suggest as parents you at least have tried to review Canvas and have talked with your student about what is going on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Along the lines of no grades posted until interims are due, does anyone else have a problem with teachers putting grades into Synergy but never returning assignments and/or providing feedback on anything to students?

My kid is in 5th grade and hasn't gotten anything but a few math tests back from second quarter and nothing so far from 3rd. It is a concern because A) my kid never learns what they did wrong or what they could improve upon for next time and B) the teacher makes a lot of mistakes, doesn't teach the curriculum correctly (and didn't even bother to teach any social studies second quarter), and plays favorites, so we don't ever know if my kid actually did something wrong on an assignment, there might have been a potential mistake in the system, or if she was just annoyed and gave a grade as a result (which she seems to have done before). It's very frustrating.

Ask for a meeting to go over the work with her. She should be able to show it to you.