Competitive Colleges with no Supplemental Essays?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Google is your friend: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristenmoon/2023/10/20/more-than-80-colleges-with-no-supplemental-essays-2023-24/?sh=650a536a1cdc

Most ridiculous list and lacks even iota of research.

Then find a better list. It’s relatively simple if you know how to search via Google. Quit complaining and do your own research. Grammar check might be helpful, too.

Wondering what is bad for brain and intellectual integrity, a useless list shared by an idiot or poor pathetic grammar written by another idiot.

This thread is full of idiots, and jobless helicopter moms.

Present company included.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Google is your friend: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristenmoon/2023/10/20/more-than-80-colleges-with-no-supplemental-essays-2023-24/?sh=650a536a1cdc

Most ridiculous list and lacks even iota of research.

Then find a better list. It’s relatively simple if you know how to search via Google. Quit complaining and do your own research. Grammar check might be helpful, too.

Wondering what is bad for brain and intellectual integrity, a useless list shared by an idiot or poor pathetic grammar written by another idiot.

This thread is full of idiots, and jobless helicopter moms.

Present company included.

LOL, yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AOs can already see the student's main essay in the Common App, and they've got so many other data points to evaluate the kid with as well. The no-supplement policy probably lets some great slightly under-the-radar schools see some applicants who might not have been able to apply otherwise, and it might be an excellent fit for both.

A supplemental essay allows to school the see demonstrated interest.

You are applying because you have interest.
ED1 ED2 would be the best tool for demonstrated interest if that's important.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Essays are dumb when you don't even know who actually wrote it.

Kids have worked hard for years and schools should have plenty of data and information already.

No need to burden the kids more.

I think they are really important in some instances. Have you read the book, Getting into Brown? There's a girl from LA whose parents were immigrants from South America with menial jobs and very little income. She woke in the night to find out her father had been stabbed (or shot, I can't remember). She talked about handling this crisis as a family and as an individual. She was a top student at a low performing school in a tough area (obviously) and excelled at Brown, becoming a doctor herself, ultimately. So her essay was crucial in terms outlining the kind of difficulties she faced and facilitating the social change that helped her move from a place of poverty and danger into one of academic success.

Having an unfortunate event shouldn't be a major factor for getting into academic institutions.
I'm sure that girl would have been done fine at any good school, get into a medical school, and became a good doctor without the sorry story.

I actually like essays, but it should be done in SAT style.
At the test center, they give everyone same prompt and time limit.
Students write about their thought, logics, etc. You can incorporate your personal experiences as appropriate for the topic.
School can actually see the students thought process and writing skills, etc. etc.

Current system is so messed up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Essays are dumb when you don't even know who actually wrote it.

Kids have worked hard for years and schools should have plenty of data and information already.

No need to burden the kids more.

I think they are really important in some instances. Have you read the book, Getting into Brown? There's a girl from LA whose parents were immigrants from South America with menial jobs and very little income. She woke in the night to find out her father had been stabbed (or shot, I can't remember). She talked about handling this crisis as a family and as an individual. She was a top student at a low performing school in a tough area (obviously) and excelled at Brown, becoming a doctor herself, ultimately. So her essay was crucial in terms outlining the kind of difficulties she faced and facilitating the social change that helped her move from a place of poverty and danger into one of academic success.

Current system is so messed up.

Yes it is, and for a reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Essays are dumb when you don't even know who actually wrote it.

Kids have worked hard for years and schools should have plenty of data and information already.

No need to burden the kids more.

I think they are really important in some instances. Have you read the book, Getting into Brown? There's a girl from LA whose parents were immigrants from South America with menial jobs and very little income. She woke in the night to find out her father had been stabbed (or shot, I can't remember). She talked about handling this crisis as a family and as an individual. She was a top student at a low performing school in a tough area (obviously) and excelled at Brown, becoming a doctor herself, ultimately. So her essay was crucial in terms outlining the kind of difficulties she faced and facilitating the social change that helped her move from a place of poverty and danger into one of academic success.

Having an unfortunate event shouldn't be a major factor for getting into academic institutions.
I'm sure that girl would have been done fine at any good school, get into a medical school, and became a good doctor without the sorry story.

I actually like essays, but it should be done in SAT style.
At the test center, they give everyone same prompt and time limit.
Students write about their thought, logics, etc. You can incorporate your personal experiences as appropriate for the topic.
School can actually see the students thought process and writing skills, etc. etc.

Current system is so messed up.

The US system is not set up for the most “qualified candidates with the highest scores” to always be admitted.
That is not how “holistic admissions” work, and these schools do not want classes filled with only the “highest scoring” candidates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Essays are dumb when you don't even know who actually wrote it.

Kids have worked hard for years and schools should have plenty of data and information already.

No need to burden the kids more.

I think they are really important in some instances. Have you read the book, Getting into Brown? There's a girl from LA whose parents were immigrants from South America with menial jobs and very little income. She woke in the night to find out her father had been stabbed (or shot, I can't remember). She talked about handling this crisis as a family and as an individual. She was a top student at a low performing school in a tough area (obviously) and excelled at Brown, becoming a doctor herself, ultimately. So her essay was crucial in terms outlining the kind of difficulties she faced and facilitating the social change that helped her move from a place of poverty and danger into one of academic success.

Having an unfortunate event shouldn't be a major factor for getting into academic institutions.
I'm sure that girl would have been done fine at any good school, get into a medical school, and became a good doctor without the sorry story.

I actually like essays, but it should be done in SAT style.
At the test center, they give everyone same prompt and time limit.
Students write about their thought, logics, etc. You can incorporate your personal experiences as appropriate for the topic.
School can actually see the students thought process and writing skills, etc. etc.

Current system is so messed up.

The US system is not set up for the most “qualified candidates with the highest scores” to always be admitted.
That is not how “holistic admissions” work, and these schools do not want classes filled with only the “highest scoring” candidates.

I didn't say that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Essays are dumb when you don't even know who actually wrote it.

Kids have worked hard for years and schools should have plenty of data and information already.

No need to burden the kids more.

I think they are really important in some instances. Have you read the book, Getting into Brown? There's a girl from LA whose parents were immigrants from South America with menial jobs and very little income. She woke in the night to find out her father had been stabbed (or shot, I can't remember). She talked about handling this crisis as a family and as an individual. She was a top student at a low performing school in a tough area (obviously) and excelled at Brown, becoming a doctor herself, ultimately. So her essay was crucial in terms outlining the kind of difficulties she faced and facilitating the social change that helped her move from a place of poverty and danger into one of academic success.

Having an unfortunate event shouldn't be a major factor for getting into academic institutions.
I'm sure that girl would have been done fine at any good school, get into a medical school, and became a good doctor without the sorry story.

I actually like essays, but it should be done in SAT style.
At the test center, they give everyone same prompt and time limit.
Students write about their thought, logics, etc. You can incorporate your personal experiences as appropriate for the topic.
School can actually see the students thought process and writing skills, etc. etc.

Current system is so messed up.

The US system is not set up for the most “qualified candidates with the highest scores” to always be admitted.
That is not how “holistic admissions” work, and these schools do not want classes filled with only the “highest scoring” candidates.

DP. Highest scores do not necessarily equate to most "qualified."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Crazy way to pick a college.

The supplemental essays are usually quite short.

This is a bad sign for how hard your kid is willing to work for his goals.

Kids and specifically their helicopter parents nowadays are more interested in shot gunning and shortcuts.

Yep, this is us for sure. I'm not even joking. I personally believe the US college app game is a farce and needlessly over complicated and more stressful than it needs to be. You bet my child will be taking the most simplistic route possible for college apps. It works for us since DC isn't some hypercompetitive über achiever. DC is doing a major that will get excellent job prospects regardless of where they go to college, lol. So as long as DC gets into some decent options, we're good.

But it's very amusing watching the hoops others go through.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Essays are dumb when you don't even know who actually wrote it.

Kids have worked hard for years and schools should have plenty of data and information already.

No need to burden the kids more.

I think they are really important in some instances. Have you read the book, Getting into Brown? There's a girl from LA whose parents were immigrants from South America with menial jobs and very little income. She woke in the night to find out her father had been stabbed (or shot, I can't remember). She talked about handling this crisis as a family and as an individual. She was a top student at a low performing school in a tough area (obviously) and excelled at Brown, becoming a doctor herself, ultimately. So her essay was crucial in terms outlining the kind of difficulties she faced and facilitating the social change that helped her move from a place of poverty and danger into one of academic success.

Having an unfortunate event shouldn't be a major factor for getting into academic institutions.
I'm sure that girl would have been done fine at any good school, get into a medical school, and became a good doctor without the sorry story.

I actually like essays, but it should be done in SAT style.
At the test center, they give everyone same prompt and time limit.
Students write about their thought, logics, etc. You can incorporate your personal experiences as appropriate for the topic.
School can actually see the students thought process and writing skills, etc. etc.

Current system is so messed up.

The US system is not set up for the most “qualified candidates with the highest scores” to always be admitted.
That is not how “holistic admissions” work, and these schools do not want classes filled with only the “highest scoring” candidates.

DP. Highest scores do not necessarily equate to most "qualified."

Yea it's so random and test is even optional for now.
That's a big problem in the US system

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No school has been listed that my high achieving son would consider. If you want to spend 4 years somewhere, write an essay.

Useless and response. Congrats.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Denison is on that Forbes list as “no essay required.”

After DS applied RD, Denison asked him to complete a Why Denison essay to stay in the running, despite the fact that he has a very high GPA. So as far as I can tell, the “no essay” requirement is a way to maximize applications while still requiring an essay of the kids they would like to accept (or, they will reject and yield protect if the kid doesn’t submit the essay).

DC applied RD. Same issue, but just didn't bother to respond to the extra essay request nor the interview. Let's see how it turns out. The application had no fee so zero cost and not a lot of effort.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Essays are dumb when you don't even know who actually wrote it.

Kids have worked hard for years and schools should have plenty of data and information already.

No need to burden the kids more.

I think they are really important in some instances. Have you read the book, Getting into Brown? There's a girl from LA whose parents were immigrants from South America with menial jobs and very little income. She woke in the night to find out her father had been stabbed (or shot, I can't remember). She talked about handling this crisis as a family and as an individual. She was a top student at a low performing school in a tough area (obviously) and excelled at Brown, becoming a doctor herself, ultimately. So her essay was crucial in terms outlining the kind of difficulties she faced and facilitating the social change that helped her move from a place of poverty and danger into one of academic success.

Having an unfortunate event shouldn't be a major factor for getting into academic institutions.
I'm sure that girl would have been done fine at any good school, get into a medical school, and became a good doctor without the sorry story.

I actually like essays, but it should be done in SAT style.
At the test center, they give everyone same prompt and time limit.
Students write about their thought, logics, etc. You can incorporate your personal experiences as appropriate for the topic.
School can actually see the students thought process and writing skills, etc. etc.

Current system is so messed up.

I don't think having an "unfortunate event" is the point, it's OVERCOMING adversity, which all the colleges are happy to read about and encourage.

[Anonymous]

I have a friend in admissions and they know many applications have fake essays, they see repeats. But you just can’t know for sure and it takes time to check for that stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Crazy way to pick a college.

The supplemental essays are usually quite short.

This is a bad sign for how hard your kid is willing to work for his goals.

Kids and specifically their helicopter parents nowadays are more interested in shot gunning and shortcuts.

A stupid system requires an appropriate response. We applied to 25 (yes, we). Got into 22 and won't release any of them until the last minute. I highly encourage everyone to do that so schools can scramble and figure out waitlist management and cry about the strong kids they would have gotten if the system was more sane and they had offered admissions to those kids in the first place. All this TO BS and essay/EC nonsense makes people hedge their bets. What's wrong with that?

And WTF is a "why this college?" essay anyways? Anyone with half a brain can write a decent response with about 20 minutes on google/the college's website. A good college counselor probably has an existing essay he would reuse for your kid anyways.. Stupidity.