When will DC TAG be expanded??

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never. Poor kids can get financial aid. DC is broke and isn't going to spend more money to subsidize upper middle class kids' college degrees

It's federal money so it doesn't cost DC anything.

In 2021 Eleanor Holmes Norton succeeded in getting the House to pass an expanded program. But, that language was stripped by the Senate. Expanding DC TAG is normally one of Norton's priorities so I am sure she will keep trying. This year she may be distracted with the RFK transfer. You can read the discussion about Norton's previous attempt here:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/990354.page

I am not sure if she did anything with regard to DC TAG last year. If she did, I didn't hear about it.

Sh didn't. I kept expecting to see the announcement for an increase to $15,000. I mean, sure, the program was meant to close the gap between in state and OOS tuition, but the exponential rise in tuition makes this a nice grant, but nothing close to par. One thing people should know...it is now means tested.

That's too bad. The point of it was for DC residents to have some parity with the opportunities in the 50 states.

It's called UDC. If DC wants a research university, they can fund one. DC Tag should be cancelled or extended to all Americans

All other Americans have access to research institutions in their states that are partially funded with federal tax dollars. DC has the highest per capital federal tax contribution in the country and pays more than it receives in federal funding. IOW, DC is a maker state not a taker state.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never. Poor kids can get financial aid. DC is broke and isn't going to spend more money to subsidize upper middle class kids' college degrees

It's federal money so it doesn't cost DC anything.

In 2021 Eleanor Holmes Norton succeeded in getting the House to pass an expanded program. But, that language was stripped by the Senate. Expanding DC TAG is normally one of Norton's priorities so I am sure she will keep trying. This year she may be distracted with the RFK transfer. You can read the discussion about Norton's previous attempt here:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/990354.page

I am not sure if she did anything with regard to DC TAG last year. If she did, I didn't hear about it.

Sh didn't. I kept expecting to see the announcement for an increase to $15,000. I mean, sure, the program was meant to close the gap between in state and OOS tuition, but the exponential rise in tuition makes this a nice grant, but nothing close to par. One thing people should know...it is now means tested.

That's too bad. The point of it was for DC residents to have some parity with the opportunities in the 50 states.

It's called UDC. If DC wants a research university, they can fund one. DC Tag should be cancelled or extended to all Americans

Then DC can tax MD and VA residents working in DC.

Not without being a state, it cannot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never. Poor kids can get financial aid. DC is broke and isn't going to spend more money to subsidize upper middle class kids' college degrees

It's federal money so it doesn't cost DC anything.

In 2021 Eleanor Holmes Norton succeeded in getting the House to pass an expanded program. But, that language was stripped by the Senate. Expanding DC TAG is normally one of Norton's priorities so I am sure she will keep trying. This year she may be distracted with the RFK transfer. You can read the discussion about Norton's previous attempt here:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/990354.page

I am not sure if she did anything with regard to DC TAG last year. If she did, I didn't hear about it.

Sh didn't. I kept expecting to see the announcement for an increase to $15,000. I mean, sure, the program was meant to close the gap between in state and OOS tuition, but the exponential rise in tuition makes this a nice grant, but nothing close to par. One thing people should know...it is now means tested.

That's too bad. The point of it was for DC residents to have some parity with the opportunities in the 50 states.

It's called UDC. If DC wants a research university, they can fund one. DC Tag should be cancelled or extended to all Americans

Then DC can tax MD and VA residents working in DC.

Not without being a state, it cannot.

It is prohibited by the Home Rule Act.

I've lived here for many years, that DC Tag was not increasing and that neighboring jurisdictions offered more public higher ed options has not been unknown. Plan accordingly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TAG does not come close to closing the gap between in state and out of state tuition at most MD and VA colleges. This is an embarrassment for a DC that claims to care about educational equity! When will it increase? Are there no supporters on the Council? And no, it should not be further means tested. Upper income people in other states pay taxes and get in state tuition in return. We pay DC taxes and get pathetic expenditure on higher education. They don’t even attempt to make UDC into a strong institution. Where’s the vision that turned UMBC into an R1?

It's federally funded, not a DC Council program.

https://osse.dc.gov/dctag#Background

It hasn't increased in a very long time, not sure expecting that is reasonable. Plan accordingly.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never. Poor kids can get financial aid. DC is broke and isn't going to spend more money to subsidize upper middle class kids' college degrees

It's federal money so it doesn't cost DC anything.

In 2021 Eleanor Holmes Norton succeeded in getting the House to pass an expanded program. But, that language was stripped by the Senate. Expanding DC TAG is normally one of Norton's priorities so I am sure she will keep trying. This year she may be distracted with the RFK transfer. You can read the discussion about Norton's previous attempt here:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/990354.page

I am not sure if she did anything with regard to DC TAG last year. If she did, I didn't hear about it.

Sh didn't. I kept expecting to see the announcement for an increase to $15,000. I mean, sure, the program was meant to close the gap between in state and OOS tuition, but the exponential rise in tuition makes this a nice grant, but nothing close to par. One thing people should know...it is now means tested.

That's too bad. The point of it was for DC residents to have some parity with the opportunities in the 50 states.

It's called UDC. If DC wants a research university, they can fund one. DC Tag should be cancelled or extended to all Americans

Then DC can tax MD and VA residents working in DC.

A commuter tax is prohibited by the Home Rule Act.

With the declining fiscal picture in DC I would NOT expect this amount to be increased any time soon.

Once again, DC TAG is federally funded. It has nothing to do with DC 's fiscal picture.

Thanks for the clarification

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never. Poor kids can get financial aid. DC is broke and isn't going to spend more money to subsidize upper middle class kids' college degrees

It's federal money so it doesn't cost DC anything.

In 2021 Eleanor Holmes Norton succeeded in getting the House to pass an expanded program. But, that language was stripped by the Senate. Expanding DC TAG is normally one of Norton's priorities so I am sure she will keep trying. This year she may be distracted with the RFK transfer. You can read the discussion about Norton's previous attempt here:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/990354.page

I am not sure if she did anything with regard to DC TAG last year. If she did, I didn't hear about it.

Sh didn't. I kept expecting to see the announcement for an increase to $15,000. I mean, sure, the program was meant to close the gap between in state and OOS tuition, but the exponential rise in tuition makes this a nice grant, but nothing close to par. One thing people should know...it is now means tested.

That's too bad. The point of it was for DC residents to have some parity with the opportunities in the 50 states.

It's called UDC. If DC wants a research university, they can fund one. DC Tag should be cancelled or extended to all Americans

Then DC can tax MD and VA residents working in DC.

A commuter tax is prohibited by the Home Rule Act.

With the declining fiscal picture in DC I would NOT expect this amount to be increased any time soon.

Once again, DC TAG is federally funded. It has nothing to do with DC 's fiscal picture.

But DC should invest more in higher ed. In MD or VA my tax dollars would get me access to a range of more affordable colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never. Poor kids can get financial aid. DC is broke and isn't going to spend more money to subsidize upper middle class kids' college degrees

It's federal money so it doesn't cost DC anything.

In 2021 Eleanor Holmes Norton succeeded in getting the House to pass an expanded program. But, that language was stripped by the Senate. Expanding DC TAG is normally one of Norton's priorities so I am sure she will keep trying. This year she may be distracted with the RFK transfer. You can read the discussion about Norton's previous attempt here:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/990354.page

I am not sure if she did anything with regard to DC TAG last year. If she did, I didn't hear about it.

Sh didn't. I kept expecting to see the announcement for an increase to $15,000. I mean, sure, the program was meant to close the gap between in state and OOS tuition, but the exponential rise in tuition makes this a nice grant, but nothing close to par. One thing people should know...it is now means tested.

That's too bad. The point of it was for DC residents to have some parity with the opportunities in the 50 states.

It's called UDC. If DC wants a research university, they can fund one. DC Tag should be cancelled or extended to all Americans

Then DC can tax MD and VA residents working in DC.

A commuter tax is prohibited by the Home Rule Act.

With the declining fiscal picture in DC I would NOT expect this amount to be increased any time soon.

Once again, DC TAG is federally funded. It has nothing to do with DC 's fiscal picture.

But DC should invest more in higher ed. In MD or VA my tax dollars would get me access to a range of more affordable colleges.

I don't want to be snarky, but DC is a federal District. We do not have the funds or people to support that. We don't have economies of scale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never. Poor kids can get financial aid. DC is broke and isn't going to spend more money to subsidize upper middle class kids' college degrees

It's federal money so it doesn't cost DC anything.

In 2021 Eleanor Holmes Norton succeeded in getting the House to pass an expanded program. But, that language was stripped by the Senate. Expanding DC TAG is normally one of Norton's priorities so I am sure she will keep trying. This year she may be distracted with the RFK transfer. You can read the discussion about Norton's previous attempt here:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/990354.page

I am not sure if she did anything with regard to DC TAG last year. If she did, I didn't hear about it.

Why does DC allow it to get stripped by the Senate? Where’s the political saavy of all the DC residents with an interest in this?

It's true that the two Senators from DC failed to do their job. It's almost as if they've gone missing. I can't find them anywhere.

I'm so glad that this forum has attracted political geniuses such as yourself.

If DC can lobby to get RFK back it can lobby for TAG. If DC can make national headlines for local residents organizing a recall, we can organize for TAG.

and jeez Jeff, are you actually using your platform to insult people who think DC should fund college appropriately?

TAG, as a federal program, has nothing to do with DC's funding choices.

DC could supplement TAG. DC could prioritize lobbying for it. DC residents could lobby for it directly and through lobbying DC officials.

DC has a separate program called DC CAP:

https://dccap.org

This program is funded by DC and supplements DC TAG.

DC residents have lobbied for DC TAG and, as I said in my first response to this thread, Eleanor Holmes Norton is a strong advocate of the program. She is effectively our primary lobbyist on the issue. You should write to her and thank her for her past support and encourage her to continue seeking to expand the program.

I paid to put three kids in college. I shouldn’t have to fund yours.

You are what's wrong with America.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never. Poor kids can get financial aid. DC is broke and isn't going to spend more money to subsidize upper middle class kids' college degrees

It's federal money so it doesn't cost DC anything.

In 2021 Eleanor Holmes Norton succeeded in getting the House to pass an expanded program. But, that language was stripped by the Senate. Expanding DC TAG is normally one of Norton's priorities so I am sure she will keep trying. This year she may be distracted with the RFK transfer. You can read the discussion about Norton's previous attempt here:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/990354.page

I am not sure if she did anything with regard to DC TAG last year. If she did, I didn't hear about it.

Sh didn't. I kept expecting to see the announcement for an increase to $15,000. I mean, sure, the program was meant to close the gap between in state and OOS tuition, but the exponential rise in tuition makes this a nice grant, but nothing close to par. One thing people should know...it is now means tested.

That's too bad. The point of it was for DC residents to have some parity with the opportunities in the 50 states.

It's called UDC. If DC wants a research university, they can fund one. DC Tag should be cancelled or extended to all Americans

Then DC can tax MD and VA residents working in DC.

A commuter tax is prohibited by the Home Rule Act.

With the declining fiscal picture in DC I would NOT expect this amount to be increased any time soon.

Once again, DC TAG is federally funded. It has nothing to do with DC 's fiscal picture.

But DC should invest more in higher ed. In MD or VA my tax dollars would get me access to a range of more affordable colleges.

I don't want to be snarky, but DC is a federal District. We do not have the funds or people to support that. We don't have economies of scale.

Would be interesting to see how UMBC grew. Was it by just an increase in state expenditures, or by attracting research funding, donations and tuition?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never. Poor kids can get financial aid. DC is broke and isn't going to spend more money to subsidize upper middle class kids' college degrees

It's federal money so it doesn't cost DC anything.

In 2021 Eleanor Holmes Norton succeeded in getting the House to pass an expanded program. But, that language was stripped by the Senate. Expanding DC TAG is normally one of Norton's priorities so I am sure she will keep trying. This year she may be distracted with the RFK transfer. You can read the discussion about Norton's previous attempt here:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/990354.page

I am not sure if she did anything with regard to DC TAG last year. If she did, I didn't hear about it.

Sh didn't. I kept expecting to see the announcement for an increase to $15,000. I mean, sure, the program was meant to close the gap between in state and OOS tuition, but the exponential rise in tuition makes this a nice grant, but nothing close to par. One thing people should know...it is now means tested.

That's too bad. The point of it was for DC residents to have some parity with the opportunities in the 50 states.

It's called UDC. If DC wants a research university, they can fund one. DC Tag should be cancelled or extended to all Americans

Then DC can tax MD and VA residents working in DC.

A commuter tax is prohibited by the Home Rule Act.

With the declining fiscal picture in DC I would NOT expect this amount to be increased any time soon.

Once again, DC TAG is federally funded. It has nothing to do with DC 's fiscal picture.

But DC should invest more in higher ed. In MD or VA my tax dollars would get me access to a range of more affordable colleges.

Maybe you should live there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never. Poor kids can get financial aid. DC is broke and isn't going to spend more money to subsidize upper middle class kids' college degrees

It's federal money so it doesn't cost DC anything.

In 2021 Eleanor Holmes Norton succeeded in getting the House to pass an expanded program. But, that language was stripped by the Senate. Expanding DC TAG is normally one of Norton's priorities so I am sure she will keep trying. This year she may be distracted with the RFK transfer. You can read the discussion about Norton's previous attempt here:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/990354.page

I am not sure if she did anything with regard to DC TAG last year. If she did, I didn't hear about it.

Sh didn't. I kept expecting to see the announcement for an increase to $15,000. I mean, sure, the program was meant to close the gap between in state and OOS tuition, but the exponential rise in tuition makes this a nice grant, but nothing close to par. One thing people should know...it is now means tested.

That's too bad. The point of it was for DC residents to have some parity with the opportunities in the 50 states.

It's called UDC. If DC wants a research university, they can fund one. DC Tag should be cancelled or extended to all Americans

Then DC can tax MD and VA residents working in DC.

A commuter tax is prohibited by the Home Rule Act.

With the declining fiscal picture in DC I would NOT expect this amount to be increased any time soon.

Once again, DC TAG is federally funded. It has nothing to do with DC 's fiscal picture.

But DC should invest more in higher ed. In MD or VA my tax dollars would get me access to a range of more affordable colleges.

Maybe you should live there.

Is that what DC wants? I feel more for the middle/lower class kids who could go to say Towson, but have to pay 7k extra annually in tuition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never. Poor kids can get financial aid. DC is broke and isn't going to spend more money to subsidize upper middle class kids' college degrees

It's federal money so it doesn't cost DC anything.

In 2021 Eleanor Holmes Norton succeeded in getting the House to pass an expanded program. But, that language was stripped by the Senate. Expanding DC TAG is normally one of Norton's priorities so I am sure she will keep trying. This year she may be distracted with the RFK transfer. You can read the discussion about Norton's previous attempt here:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/990354.page

I am not sure if she did anything with regard to DC TAG last year. If she did, I didn't hear about it.

Sh didn't. I kept expecting to see the announcement for an increase to $15,000. I mean, sure, the program was meant to close the gap between in state and OOS tuition, but the exponential rise in tuition makes this a nice grant, but nothing close to par. One thing people should know...it is now means tested.

That's too bad. The point of it was for DC residents to have some parity with the opportunities in the 50 states.

It's called UDC. If DC wants a research university, they can fund one. DC Tag should be cancelled or extended to all Americans

Then DC can tax MD and VA residents working in DC.

A commuter tax is prohibited by the Home Rule Act.

With the declining fiscal picture in DC I would NOT expect this amount to be increased any time soon.

Once again, DC TAG is federally funded. It has nothing to do with DC 's fiscal picture.

But DC should invest more in higher ed. In MD or VA my tax dollars would get me access to a range of more affordable colleges.

Virginia has 8.6 million residents, which is more than 10 times D.C.'s population. Maryland has 6.2 million. For D.C. to have even just one campus that's even just the same size as the UMD or UVA flagships, let alone on the same level of quality, would require raising taxes significantly on the residents we have.

UDC does now have a community college branch that's similar in affordability to Montgomery College or Nova Community College, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never. Poor kids can get financial aid. DC is broke and isn't going to spend more money to subsidize upper middle class kids' college degrees

It's federal money so it doesn't cost DC anything.

In 2021 Eleanor Holmes Norton succeeded in getting the House to pass an expanded program. But, that language was stripped by the Senate. Expanding DC TAG is normally one of Norton's priorities so I am sure she will keep trying. This year she may be distracted with the RFK transfer. You can read the discussion about Norton's previous attempt here:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/990354.page

I am not sure if she did anything with regard to DC TAG last year. If she did, I didn't hear about it.

Sh didn't. I kept expecting to see the announcement for an increase to $15,000. I mean, sure, the program was meant to close the gap between in state and OOS tuition, but the exponential rise in tuition makes this a nice grant, but nothing close to par. One thing people should know...it is now means tested.

That's too bad. The point of it was for DC residents to have some parity with the opportunities in the 50 states.

It's called UDC. If DC wants a research university, they can fund one. DC Tag should be cancelled or extended to all Americans

Then DC can tax MD and VA residents working in DC.

A commuter tax is prohibited by the Home Rule Act.

With the declining fiscal picture in DC I would NOT expect this amount to be increased any time soon.

Once again, DC TAG is federally funded. It has nothing to do with DC 's fiscal picture.

But DC should invest more in higher ed. In MD or VA my tax dollars would get me access to a range of more affordable colleges.

Virginia has 8.6 million residents, which is more than 10 times D.C.'s population. Maryland has 6.2 million. For D.C. to have even just one campus that's even just the same size as the UMD or UVA flagships, let alone on the same level of quality, would require raising taxes significantly on the residents we have.

UDC does now have a community college branch that's similar in affordability to Montgomery College or Nova Community College, though.

Perhaps it is similar in affordability, but not in quality. MoCo College and NVCC are among the best community colleges in the country. DC's is among the worst.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never. Poor kids can get financial aid. DC is broke and isn't going to spend more money to subsidize upper middle class kids' college degrees

It's federal money so it doesn't cost DC anything.

In 2021 Eleanor Holmes Norton succeeded in getting the House to pass an expanded program. But, that language was stripped by the Senate. Expanding DC TAG is normally one of Norton's priorities so I am sure she will keep trying. This year she may be distracted with the RFK transfer. You can read the discussion about Norton's previous attempt here:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/990354.page

I am not sure if she did anything with regard to DC TAG last year. If she did, I didn't hear about it.

Sh didn't. I kept expecting to see the announcement for an increase to $15,000. I mean, sure, the program was meant to close the gap between in state and OOS tuition, but the exponential rise in tuition makes this a nice grant, but nothing close to par. One thing people should know...it is now means tested.

That's too bad. The point of it was for DC residents to have some parity with the opportunities in the 50 states.

DC should retrocede to Maryland. The only "losers" from such a plan would be the losers who currently sit astride the DC political scene: they mayor and council members who have dreams of becoming a "state" governor and legislators.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never. Poor kids can get financial aid. DC is broke and isn't going to spend more money to subsidize upper middle class kids' college degrees

It's federal money so it doesn't cost DC anything.

In 2021 Eleanor Holmes Norton succeeded in getting the House to pass an expanded program. But, that language was stripped by the Senate. Expanding DC TAG is normally one of Norton's priorities so I am sure she will keep trying. This year she may be distracted with the RFK transfer. You can read the discussion about Norton's previous attempt here:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/990354.page

I am not sure if she did anything with regard to DC TAG last year. If she did, I didn't hear about it.

Sh didn't. I kept expecting to see the announcement for an increase to $15,000. I mean, sure, the program was meant to close the gap between in state and OOS tuition, but the exponential rise in tuition makes this a nice grant, but nothing close to par. One thing people should know...it is now means tested.

That's too bad. The point of it was for DC residents to have some parity with the opportunities in the 50 states.

It's called UDC. If DC wants a research university, they can fund one. DC Tag should be cancelled or extended to all Americans

Then DC can tax MD and VA residents working in DC.

A commuter tax is prohibited by the Home Rule Act.

With the declining fiscal picture in DC I would NOT expect this amount to be increased any time soon.

Once again, DC TAG is federally funded. It has nothing to do with DC 's fiscal picture.

But DC should invest more in higher ed. In MD or VA my tax dollars would get me access to a range of more affordable colleges.

Virginia has 8.6 million residents, which is more than 10 times D.C.'s population. Maryland has 6.2 million. For D.C. to have even just one campus that's even just the same size as the UMD or UVA flagships, let alone on the same level of quality, would require raising taxes significantly on the residents we have.

UDC does now have a community college branch that's similar in affordability to Montgomery College or Nova Community College, though.

Counterpoint: Vermont, Wyoming, Alaska, the Dakotas all have population sizes not too different from DC and support state research universities. Vermont even has a flagship that attracts many DMV area students. Even Delaware at 1 mil people is within the range of DC and has a strong state university.