Are clubs being run by the right people?

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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of parents are afraid to do much if they aren't popular, very knowledgeable in soccer, have a lot of time or don't have a strong player. In the baseball little league world everyone is a volunteer and it's easier to step up. In travel programs there is an expectation that it should be run completely as a business even if you are a volunteer.

To be a parent volunteer for a team staff you need zero and I mean zero knowledge of soccer. So, this excuse is 100% BS. You're just being lazy.

I work full time and don’t want to spend what little free time I have dealing with pita parents. I’d much rather pay someone else to do it even if it means paying more. It’s the same reason I don’t clean my own house, have my groceries delivered and have a landscaping service.

The underlying issue you completely missed is this isn't a chore. This is about your children. You are so lazy you won't even be more involved with your children. That's the sad part. Do you hire someone to drop them off and pick them up too? Do you hire someone to cheer for them during games as well?

Imagine a parent comparing being involved in their kid's sport's activity to cleaning the house or shopping for food. WTF is wrong with you lazy people. Feel sorry for your kid for having such a horrible parent.

Oh get off your high horse. Kids club soccer is just another paid activity we buy for our kids. Like going to Disney. Does Disney ask me to volunteer and wash my own dishes? But it’s for the kids!

So instead of actually being involved with your kids you third party them out. Got it. Don't make excuses. Just admit and move on.

You must be a lot of fun to be around for anybody working with your kids. Are you the "involved" parent telling teachers how to teach? I'll bet you were the "involved" parent standing next to their kid as they got their hair cut telling the person how to do their job. Were you "involved" with setting up lots of playdates for your kids?

I don't helicopter parent, but I am involved and support my kids. Unlike some parents who rather stare at their iPhone than watch their kids play their sport, etc. Or, never help with team sports.

The fact that some of you get this upset is more of a reflection of you in the mirror. If you think there is nothing wrong with what you're doing you wouldn't be posting so angry. Please. Get off YOUR HIGH HORSE and maybe particulate in your kid's life instead of just dropping them off and never being part of their youth. You don't have to be there all the time, but those parents (like you) who act as if the parents who volunteer to help teams out are "over parenting" is a joke. You should be thanking them on your knees because without the volunteer parents your kid wouldn't have any sport to play as youth.

It is what it is.

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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of parents are afraid to do much if they aren't popular, very knowledgeable in soccer, have a lot of time or don't have a strong player. In the baseball little league world everyone is a volunteer and it's easier to step up. In travel programs there is an expectation that it should be run completely as a business even if you are a volunteer.

To be a parent volunteer for a team staff you need zero and I mean zero knowledge of soccer. So, this excuse is 100% BS. You're just being lazy.

I work full time and don’t want to spend what little free time I have dealing with pita parents. I’d much rather pay someone else to do it even if it means paying more. It’s the same reason I don’t clean my own house, have my groceries delivered and have a landscaping service.

The underlying issue you completely missed is this isn't a chore. This is about your children. You are so lazy you won't even be more involved with your children. That's the sad part. Do you hire someone to drop them off and pick them up too? Do you hire someone to cheer for them during games as well?

Imagine a parent comparing being involved in their kid's sport's activity to cleaning the house or shopping for food. WTF is wrong with you lazy people. Feel sorry for your kid for having such a horrible parent.

Oh get off your high horse. Kids club soccer is just another paid activity we buy for our kids. Like going to Disney. Does Disney ask me to volunteer and wash my own dishes? But it’s for the kids!

So instead of actually being involved with your kids you third party them out. Got it. Don't make excuses. Just admit and move on.

You must be a lot of fun to be around for anybody working with your kids. Are you the "involved" parent telling teachers how to teach? I'll bet you were the "involved" parent standing next to their kid as they got their hair cut telling the person how to do their job. Were you "involved" with setting up lots of playdates for your kids?

I don't helicopter parent, but I am involved and support my kids. Unlike some parents who rather stare at their iPhone than watch their kids play their sport, etc. Or, never help with team sports.

The fact that some of you get this upset is more of a reflection of you in the mirror. If you think there is nothing wrong with what you're doing you wouldn't be posting so angry. Please. Get off YOUR HIGH HORSE and maybe particulate in your kid's life instead of just dropping them off and never being part of their youth. You don't have to be there all the time, but those parents (like you) who act as if the parents who volunteer to help teams out are "over parenting" is a joke. You should be thanking them on your knees because without the volunteer parents your kid wouldn't have any sport to play as youth.

It is what it is.

I take my kid to every training session. Watch every single game. Gladly travel to plenty of out of town tournaments. We have fun together. We talk in the car rides and have fun in hotels and sightseeing. Overall it's a great experience. I also don't volunteer to organize any of it and I would gladly pay more money so nobody else needs to volunteer either.

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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of parents are afraid to do much if they aren't popular, very knowledgeable in soccer, have a lot of time or don't have a strong player. In the baseball little league world everyone is a volunteer and it's easier to step up. In travel programs there is an expectation that it should be run completely as a business even if you are a volunteer.

To be a parent volunteer for a team staff you need zero and I mean zero knowledge of soccer. So, this excuse is 100% BS. You're just being lazy.

I work full time and don’t want to spend what little free time I have dealing with pita parents. I’d much rather pay someone else to do it even if it means paying more. It’s the same reason I don’t clean my own house, have my groceries delivered and have a landscaping service.

The underlying issue you completely missed is this isn't a chore. This is about your children. You are so lazy you won't even be more involved with your children. That's the sad part. Do you hire someone to drop them off and pick them up too? Do you hire someone to cheer for them during games as well?

Imagine a parent comparing being involved in their kid's sport's activity to cleaning the house or shopping for food. WTF is wrong with you lazy people. Feel sorry for your kid for having such a horrible parent.

Oh get off your high horse. Kids club soccer is just another paid activity we buy for our kids. Like going to Disney. Does Disney ask me to volunteer and wash my own dishes? But it’s for the kids!

So instead of actually being involved with your kids you third party them out. Got it. Don't make excuses. Just admit and move on.

You must be a lot of fun to be around for anybody working with your kids. Are you the "involved" parent telling teachers how to teach? I'll bet you were the "involved" parent standing next to their kid as they got their hair cut telling the person how to do their job. Were you "involved" with setting up lots of playdates for your kids?

I don't helicopter parent, but I am involved and support my kids. Unlike some parents who rather stare at their iPhone than watch their kids play their sport, etc. Or, never help with team sports.

The fact that some of you get this upset is more of a reflection of you in the mirror. If you think there is nothing wrong with what you're doing you wouldn't be posting so angry. Please. Get off YOUR HIGH HORSE and maybe particulate in your kid's life instead of just dropping them off and never being part of their youth. You don't have to be there all the time, but those parents (like you) who act as if the parents who volunteer to help teams out are "over parenting" is a joke. You should be thanking them on your knees because without the volunteer parents your kid wouldn't have any sport to play as youth.

It is what it is.

I take my kid to every training session. Watch every single game. Gladly travel to plenty of out of town tournaments. We have fun together. We talk in the car rides and have fun in hotels and sightseeing. Overall it's a great experience. I also don't volunteer to organize any of it and I would gladly pay more money so nobody else needs to volunteer either.

Thank you for describing our current pay to play model. Are you willing to also cover the cost of the less fortunate families who will get stuck with the extra financial burden you’re so willing to place on them? Do you know or think about any of these soccer families? Probably not because they’re most likely already priced out of your team.

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Anonymous wrote:If every travel team had a paid team manager, tournament director, and treasurer each family would be looking at $5,000 a season instead of $2k-$3k.

If you want to pay that much, Revolution will be happy to oblige you! LOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of parents are afraid to do much if they aren't popular, very knowledgeable in soccer, have a lot of time or don't have a strong player. In the baseball little league world everyone is a volunteer and it's easier to step up. In travel programs there is an expectation that it should be run completely as a business even if you are a volunteer.

To be a parent volunteer for a team staff you need zero and I mean zero knowledge of soccer. So, this excuse is 100% BS. You're just being lazy.

I work full time and don’t want to spend what little free time I have dealing with pita parents. I’d much rather pay someone else to do it even if it means paying more. It’s the same reason I don’t clean my own house, have my groceries delivered and have a landscaping service.

The underlying issue you completely missed is this isn't a chore. This is about your children. You are so lazy you won't even be more involved with your children. That's the sad part. Do you hire someone to drop them off and pick them up too? Do you hire someone to cheer for them during games as well?

Imagine a parent comparing being involved in their kid's sport's activity to cleaning the house or shopping for food. WTF is wrong with you lazy people. Feel sorry for your kid for having such a horrible parent.

Oh get off your high horse. Kids club soccer is just another paid activity we buy for our kids. Like going to Disney. Does Disney ask me to volunteer and wash my own dishes? But it’s for the kids!

So instead of actually being involved with your kids you third party them out. Got it. Don't make excuses. Just admit and move on.

You must be a lot of fun to be around for anybody working with your kids. Are you the "involved" parent telling teachers how to teach? I'll bet you were the "involved" parent standing next to their kid as they got their hair cut telling the person how to do their job. Were you "involved" with setting up lots of playdates for your kids?

I don't helicopter parent, but I am involved and support my kids. Unlike some parents who rather stare at their iPhone than watch their kids play their sport, etc. Or, never help with team sports.

The fact that some of you get this upset is more of a reflection of you in the mirror. If you think there is nothing wrong with what you're doing you wouldn't be posting so angry. Please. Get off YOUR HIGH HORSE and maybe particulate in your kid's life instead of just dropping them off and never being part of their youth. You don't have to be there all the time, but those parents (like you) who act as if the parents who volunteer to help teams out are "over parenting" is a joke. You should be thanking them on your knees because without the volunteer parents your kid wouldn't have any sport to play as youth.

It is what it is.

It is what it is. So profound. And you are what you are. A helicopter parent living their dreams out through their child’s youth soccer career. Look in the mirror as you’ve been advising others to do. You will see a loser.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of parents are afraid to do much if they aren't popular, very knowledgeable in soccer, have a lot of time or don't have a strong player. In the baseball little league world everyone is a volunteer and it's easier to step up. In travel programs there is an expectation that it should be run completely as a business even if you are a volunteer.

To be a parent volunteer for a team staff you need zero and I mean zero knowledge of soccer. So, this excuse is 100% BS. You're just being lazy.

Agree. Team mgr here of high maintenance parents. Shame on those of you who never volunteer; who never offer to help with anything; who can’t even offer to handle the canopy; or at least offer to offer. It’s disgusting. Yes, we all talk about you, that parent that does zero. Ew. You just sit there in your chair with the random cackle laugh no one wants to hear. Ew.

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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of parents are afraid to do much if they aren't popular, very knowledgeable in soccer, have a lot of time or don't have a strong player. In the baseball little league world everyone is a volunteer and it's easier to step up. In travel programs there is an expectation that it should be run completely as a business even if you are a volunteer.

To be a parent volunteer for a team staff you need zero and I mean zero knowledge of soccer. So, this excuse is 100% BS. You're just being lazy.

I work full time and don’t want to spend what little free time I have dealing with pita parents. I’d much rather pay someone else to do it even if it means paying more. It’s the same reason I don’t clean my own house, have my groceries delivered and have a landscaping service.

The underlying issue you completely missed is this isn't a chore. This is about your children. You are so lazy you won't even be more involved with your children. That's the sad part. Do you hire someone to drop them off and pick them up too? Do you hire someone to cheer for them during games as well?

Imagine a parent comparing being involved in their kid's sport's activity to cleaning the house or shopping for food. WTF is wrong with you lazy people. Feel sorry for your kid for having such a horrible parent.

Oh get off your high horse. Kids club soccer is just another paid activity we buy for our kids. Like going to Disney. Does Disney ask me to volunteer and wash my own dishes? But it’s for the kids!

So instead of actually being involved with your kids you third party them out. Got it. Don't make excuses. Just admit and move on.

You must be a lot of fun to be around for anybody working with your kids. Are you the "involved" parent telling teachers how to teach? I'll bet you were the "involved" parent standing next to their kid as they got their hair cut telling the person how to do their job. Were you "involved" with setting up lots of playdates for your kids?

I don't helicopter parent, but I am involved and support my kids. Unlike some parents who rather stare at their iPhone than watch their kids play their sport, etc. Or, never help with team sports.

The fact that some of you get this upset is more of a reflection of you in the mirror. If you think there is nothing wrong with what you're doing you wouldn't be posting so angry. Please. Get off YOUR HIGH HORSE and maybe particulate in your kid's life instead of just dropping them off and never being part of their youth.

“I don’t know anything about your situation, but I’m certain it’s the result of laziness, selfish folly, and bad parenting. I have been uniquely appointed to judge you.”

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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of parents are afraid to do much if they aren't popular, very knowledgeable in soccer, have a lot of time or don't have a strong player. In the baseball little league world everyone is a volunteer and it's easier to step up. In travel programs there is an expectation that it should be run completely as a business even if you are a volunteer.

To be a parent volunteer for a team staff you need zero and I mean zero knowledge of soccer. So, this excuse is 100% BS. You're just being lazy.

I work full time and don’t want to spend what little free time I have dealing with pita parents. I’d much rather pay someone else to do it even if it means paying more. It’s the same reason I don’t clean my own house, have my groceries delivered and have a landscaping service.

The underlying issue you completely missed is this isn't a chore. This is about your children. You are so lazy you won't even be more involved with your children. That's the sad part. Do you hire someone to drop them off and pick them up too? Do you hire someone to cheer for them during games as well?

Imagine a parent comparing being involved in their kid's sport's activity to cleaning the house or shopping for food. WTF is wrong with you lazy people. Feel sorry for your kid for having such a horrible parent.

Oh get off your high horse. Kids club soccer is just another paid activity we buy for our kids. Like going to Disney. Does Disney ask me to volunteer and wash my own dishes? But it’s for the kids!

So instead of actually being involved with your kids you third party them out. Got it. Don't make excuses. Just admit and move on.

You must be a lot of fun to be around for anybody working with your kids. Are you the "involved" parent telling teachers how to teach? I'll bet you were the "involved" parent standing next to their kid as they got their hair cut telling the person how to do their job. Were you "involved" with setting up lots of playdates for your kids?

I don't helicopter parent, but I am involved and support my kids. Unlike some parents who rather stare at their iPhone than watch their kids play their sport, etc. Or, never help with team sports.

The fact that some of you get this upset is more of a reflection of you in the mirror. If you think there is nothing wrong with what you're doing you wouldn't be posting so angry. Please. Get off YOUR HIGH HORSE and maybe particulate in your kid's life instead of just dropping them off and never being part of their youth. You don't have to be there all the time, but those parents (like you) who act as if the parents who volunteer to help teams out are "over parenting" is a joke. You should be thanking them on your knees because without the volunteer parents your kid wouldn't have any sport to play as youth.

It is what it is.

I take my kid to every training session. Watch every single game. Gladly travel to plenty of out of town tournaments. We have fun together. We talk in the car rides and have fun in hotels and sightseeing. Overall it's a great experience. I also don't volunteer to organize any of it and I would gladly pay more money so nobody else needs to volunteer either.

Thank you for describing our current pay to play model. Are you willing to also cover the cost of the less fortunate families who will get stuck with the extra financial burden you’re so willing to place on them? Do you know or think about any of these soccer families? Probably not because they’re most likely already priced out of your team.

Travel sports are a luxury. I'm not willing to pay more for others to play any more than I'm willing to pay more to stay at a resort so that others can stay

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Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of parents are afraid to do much if they aren't popular, very knowledgeable in soccer, have a lot of time or don't have a strong player. In the baseball little league world everyone is a volunteer and it's easier to step up. In travel programs there is an expectation that it should be run completely as a business even if you are a volunteer.

To be a parent volunteer for a team staff you need zero and I mean zero knowledge of soccer. So, this excuse is 100% BS. You're just being lazy.

I work full time and don’t want to spend what little free time I have dealing with pita parents. I’d much rather pay someone else to do it even if it means paying more. It’s the same reason I don’t clean my own house, have my groceries delivered and have a landscaping service.

The underlying issue you completely missed is this isn't a chore. This is about your children. You are so lazy you won't even be more involved with your children. That's the sad part. Do you hire someone to drop them off and pick them up too? Do you hire someone to cheer for them during games as well?

Imagine a parent comparing being involved in their kid's sport's activity to cleaning the house or shopping for food. WTF is wrong with you lazy people. Feel sorry for your kid for having such a horrible parent.

Oh get off your high horse. Kids club soccer is just another paid activity we buy for our kids. Like going to Disney. Does Disney ask me to volunteer and wash my own dishes? But it’s for the kids!

So instead of actually being involved with your kids you third party them out. Got it. Don't make excuses. Just admit and move on.

You must be a lot of fun to be around for anybody working with your kids. Are you the "involved" parent telling teachers how to teach? I'll bet you were the "involved" parent standing next to their kid as they got their hair cut telling the person how to do their job. Were you "involved" with setting up lots of playdates for your kids?

I don't helicopter parent, but I am involved and support my kids. Unlike some parents who rather stare at their iPhone than watch their kids play their sport, etc. Or, never help with team sports.

The fact that some of you get this upset is more of a reflection of you in the mirror. If you think there is nothing wrong with what you're doing you wouldn't be posting so angry. Please. Get off YOUR HIGH HORSE and maybe particulate in your kid's life instead of just dropping them off and never being part of their youth. You don't have to be there all the time, but those parents (like you) who act as if the parents who volunteer to help teams out are "over parenting" is a joke. You should be thanking them on your knees because without the volunteer parents your kid wouldn't have any sport to play as youth.

It is what it is.

It is what it is. So profound. And you are what you are. A helicopter parent living their dreams out through their child’s youth soccer career. Look in the mirror as you’ve been advising others to do. You will see a loser.

Sweetheart, I earn $400k a year. Live in a 6000sqft house. My kids are great athletes and do very well in school. I played sports through college and at my old age I still run 5-6 10k races a year. I don't need to live any dream through my kids.

What I do is help and support them. It takes maybe 30-45 minutes A WEEK to be a team manager. Yet, you are the one who is posting that your kid playing soccer is the same as taking them to Disney. Parents like you who think money covers parenting are the issue. Don't want to schedule your kids for 2-3 days of practice? Fine just skip it. Don't want to help a team out with 30 minutes a week of volunteer work? Fine, but don't cry over it.

See, the difference is you're crying over it. I'm not.

[Anonymous]

It's ironic the few parents who feel guilty enough to keep posting hate posts about how it's fine to not support their kids in travel soccer.

Seriously, it's laughable. See a therapist. If you don't want to support them and more a little more involved than an Uber driver that is fine. But, don't go after parents who are more involved because without them your kids wouldn't have a soccer team to play in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If every travel team had a paid team manager, tournament director, and treasurer each family would be looking at $5,000 a season instead of $2k-$3k.

If you want to pay that much, Revolution will be happy to oblige you! LOL

Are you serious? Is that how much they're charging for their GA teams now?!?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If every travel team had a paid team manager, tournament director, and treasurer each family would be looking at $5,000 a season instead of $2k-$3k.

If you want to pay that much, Revolution will be happy to oblige you! LOL

Seriously, VRSC travel parent here and we do not pay anywhere near $5,000 a season! Never have.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If every travel team had a paid team manager, tournament director, and treasurer each family would be looking at $5,000 a season instead of $2k-$3k.

If you want to pay that much, Revolution will be happy to oblige you! LOL

Seriously, VRSC travel parent here and we do not pay anywhere near $5,000 a season! Never have.

Then you haven't gotten a VRSC GA offer. $4500+.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If every travel team had a paid team manager, tournament director, and treasurer each family would be looking at $5,000 a season instead of $2k-$3k.

If you want to pay that much, Revolution will be happy to oblige you! LOL

Seriously, VRSC travel parent here and we do not pay anywhere near $5,000 a season! Never have.

Then you haven't gotten a VRSC GA offer. $4500+.

Nope and didn't realize you were only referring to GA, the comment made it sound like any team in general. Funny how everyone on here is just about girls soccer.