How do you get recruited as an athlete to an Ivy League?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://gocrimson.com/sports/womens-tennis/roster/

OP. You said your DD is intrested tennis and Harvard is on her dream school list. Here’s the roster. Multiple state champions, five star recruits, blue chip recruits. I think you can see the quality here.

Here’s UVA for a top tennis team not Ivy. Same thing, five star recruits, international level tournaments. Can we please stop with the delusion that if your kid is a top high school player that they are going to one of these schools for tennis? https://virginiasports.com/sports/wten/roster/

D1, ok you are correct. But there are D3 top 30 schools that will recruit non international, not blue chip level players.

Well...the topic of this thread is Ivy League recruiting which is a D1 athletic league. Start a different D3 thread if you want.

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If OPs kid wants to go to a third rate college and play tennis, we can surely advise her. She is asking about Ivy League tennis.

[Anonymous]

I know 3 kids who have been Ivy recruits in the past few years. They all were top students and were hooked. Think athletics+legacy or athletics+URM or athletics+legacy+URM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://gocrimson.com/sports/womens-tennis/roster/

OP. You said your DD is intrested tennis and Harvard is on her dream school list. Here’s the roster. Multiple state champions, five star recruits, blue chip recruits. I think you can see the quality here.

Here’s UVA for a top tennis team not Ivy. Same thing, five star recruits, international level tournaments. Can we please stop with the delusion that if your kid is a top high school player that they are going to one of these schools for tennis? https://virginiasports.com/sports/wten/roster/

D1, ok you are correct. But there are D3 top 30 schools that will recruit non international, not blue chip level players.

Well...the topic of this thread is Ivy League recruiting which is a D1 athletic league. Start a different D3 thread if you want.

+1

If OPs kid wants to go to a third rate college and play tennis, we can surely advise her. She is asking about Ivy League tennis.

She should be European. My friend from Belgium's son plays tennis at an Ivy. It's how they all come over for college. It is insanely competitive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the sport. DD is an athletic recruit to an Ivy next year. She said one of her future teammates is dumb as dirt. She's only taken 1 AP her entire HS career and highest math was pre-calc. Sooo, if they are talented athletes the Ivy will exceptions with grades.

Wow. I really hope your DD is a better teammate than how you have made her sound here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the sport. DD is an athletic recruit to an Ivy next year. She said one of her future teammates is dumb as dirt. She's only taken 1 AP her entire HS career and highest math was pre-calc. Sooo, if they are talented athletes the Ivy will exceptions with grades.

That’s not an Ivy sports recruit, that’s a candidate to be an Ivy university president.

[Anonymous]

Send emails to coaches with video and attend their camps. Still need top academics. Went to a recent ivy camp. The head coach said the first question the admissions office asks is what is the course rigor. He said this it is incredibly important that the student is taking the most rigorous courseload to show he can play a sport and enroll in ivy classes. He said SAT/ACTs are also very important. (He seemed to imply that they are even more important than GPAs given the inability to compare among schools). A student not submitting a score is considered a negative as he has to submit an average score for the collective team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the sport. DD is an athletic recruit to an Ivy next year. She said one of her future teammates is dumb as dirt. She's only taken 1 AP her entire HS career and highest math was pre-calc. Sooo, if they are talented athletes the Ivy will exceptions with grades.

That means her future teammate is a higher performing athlete than your DD.

[Anonymous]

My niece was recruited to Ivy for volleyball. I don't know how she got on their radar screens. But I know she was told she had to hit 32 on her ACT to qualify. (She had the offer, contingent on getting 32.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the sport. DD is an athletic recruit to an Ivy next year. She said one of her future teammates is dumb as dirt. She's only taken 1 AP her entire HS career and highest math was pre-calc. Sooo, if they are talented athletes the Ivy will exceptions with grades.

What a lovely child you’ve raised. 😒

Seriously. I would be so embarrassed and horrified if I had a child with a mouth like that. What an awful person the PP has produced.

Yet here you are as an adult slagging some kid. Pot meet kettle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Send emails to coaches with video and attend their camps. Still need top academics. Went to a recent ivy camp. The head coach said the first question the admissions office asks is what is the course rigor. He said this it is incredibly important that the student is taking the most rigorous courseload to show he can play a sport and enroll in ivy classes. He said SAT/ACTs are also very important. (He seemed to imply that they are even more important than GPAs given the inability to compare among schools). A student not submitting a score is considered a negative as he has to submit an average score for the collective team.

Listen to the Yale lacrosse coach on Youtube (go search for it). He is taped giving a talk to LAX recruits and mentions that half the team has sub-1500 SAT scores, with a bunch in the 1200s, more in the 1300s and more in the 1400s...and then 50% above 1500. I believe this is Summer 2022. Said transcript is most important in terms of grades and rigor.

The specific school above is relevant. Obviously, now Dartmouth requires scores from everyone and Yale seems to be leaning that way as well.

To reiterate, the specific sport matters a ton. Also, not sure what sport you are referring, but all college camps are for the most part a way for the assistant coaches to make extra money since they are poorly paid. They need lots of kids with no hope of getting recruited to attend.

There is no point in attending any camps unless you have been specifically invited and/or will hit certain athletic marks that will get a coach's attention (and it's usually both).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My niece was recruited to Ivy for volleyball. I don't know how she got on their radar screens. But I know she was told she had to hit 32 on her ACT to qualify. (She had the offer, contingent on getting 32.)

32 is what you need for Dartmouth field hockey.

[Anonymous]

Being 7 feet tall helps, especially as a woman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Send emails to coaches with video and attend their camps. Still need top academics. Went to a recent ivy camp. The head coach said the first question the admissions office asks is what is the course rigor. He said this it is incredibly important that the student is taking the most rigorous courseload to show he can play a sport and enroll in ivy classes. He said SAT/ACTs are also very important. (He seemed to imply that they are even more important than GPAs given the inability to compare among schools). A student not submitting a score is considered a negative as he has to submit an average score for the collective team.

Listen to the Yale lacrosse coach on Youtube (go search for it). He is taped giving a talk to LAX recruits and mentions that half the team has sub-1500 SAT scores, with a bunch in the 1200s, more in the 1300s and more in the 1400s...and then 50% above 1500. I believe this is Summer 2022. Said transcript is most important in terms of grades and rigor.

The specific school above is relevant. Obviously, now Dartmouth requires scores from everyone and Yale seems to be leaning that way as well.

To reiterate, the specific sport matters a ton. Also, not sure what sport you are referring, but all college camps are for the most part a way for the assistant coaches to make extra money since they are poorly paid. They need lots of kids with no hope of getting recruited to attend.

There is no point in attending any camps unless you have been specifically invited and/or will hit certain athletic marks that will get a coach's attention (and it's usually both).

Link? Can’t find it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Send emails to coaches with video and attend their camps. Still need top academics. Went to a recent ivy camp. The head coach said the first question the admissions office asks is what is the course rigor. He said this it is incredibly important that the student is taking the most rigorous courseload to show he can play a sport and enroll in ivy classes. He said SAT/ACTs are also very important. (He seemed to imply that they are even more important than GPAs given the inability to compare among schools). A student not submitting a score is considered a negative as he has to submit an average score for the collective team.

Listen to the Yale lacrosse coach on Youtube (go search for it). He is taped giving a talk to LAX recruits and mentions that half the team has sub-1500 SAT scores, with a bunch in the 1200s, more in the 1300s and more in the 1400s...and then 50% above 1500. I believe this is Summer 2022. Said transcript is most important in terms of grades and rigor.

The specific school above is relevant. Obviously, now Dartmouth requires scores from everyone and Yale seems to be leaning that way as well.

To reiterate, the specific sport matters a ton. Also, not sure what sport you are referring, but all college camps are for the most part a way for the assistant coaches to make extra money since they are poorly paid. They need lots of kids with no hope of getting recruited to attend.

There is no point in attending any camps unless you have been specifically invited and/or will hit certain athletic marks that will get a coach's attention (and it's usually both).

Link? Can’t find it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWKoG1XTLsI

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious. Haven't heard of any recruits from sophomore DD's very sports and academically focused high school. Are they looking for smart athletes? How competitive are their field hockey, track, and tennis teams (for my DD specifically)

Ivy league is Division 1. With the exception of football where they know they will never compete on a national scale (and won't agree to playoffs), they care quite a bit about how strong an athlete is your kid. For basketball and football, and to some extent baseball and increasingly lacrosse...their academic criteria has more leeway (i.e., they will take kids with 1200 SAT scores, but you do need to be straight A with a decent transcript). Not sure about the other sports.

Again...the transfer portal is changing many college sports, even at the Ivy level. Any "commitments" that happen prior to Fall of senior year are nothing more than words. A coach will drop you in a heartbeat if they find a more talented, smart player...or they had a better year in the transfer portal than what they expected.

Ivy schools are attractive transfer portal schools for smart kids that were good enough to say play basketball at Duke, but realize while they were recruited...they may ride the bench all 4 years. All of a sudden, Princeton looks really good especially if they qualify for need-based aid since that aid can't be taken away.

NIL is also starting to ramp up at Ivy schools. There was a controversy over Harvard selecting their new football coach and there is now a Harvard football boosters group that will pay football players NIL $$$s to play at Harvard. You won't get $5MM a year in NIL money like Alabama quarterback...but there are a ton of rich Harvard alums that are happy for you to film a commercial for their hedge fund and pay you $100k+.

This isn’t correct, current minimum academic standards for lacrosse/swimming/football for H/Y/P is a 3.5 U.S. and 1300 SAT. But your kid need to be very very good at the sport.

For field hockey, most top schools recruit internationally.