When did this redistricting happen? I wish Alexandria city council would quit it with public housing. |
I think you can definitely get some real info here about ACPS. Facebook pages, not so much, as those do get censored. Although, if you’re on the GWMS parent and community page you’ll see many daily laments about various administrative frustrations with a large, overcrowded school. This week it was multiple people commenting about the fact that there’s no easy way to report a school absence. These are basic things most other school districts can and do figure out but are a constant never-ending challenge in ACPS. And that’s the low-hanging fruit. If they can’t get the simple stuff sorted out, no way are they going to be able to manage the huge entrenched problems.
Anyone painting rosy picture of ACPS is living in denial about reality. There are great people with ACPS (educators, kids, and families) but the system is very broken and just beyond repair. Sadly, the problems get bigger as you move from elementary to middle to high school. |
I really want to know who is such an extreme ACPS apologist that he/she spews vitriol to Jeff - no wonder things here will never improve. Totally unhinged. |
I believe that redistricting was at least 15 years ago. I guess you don’t believe in the concept of ensuring everyone has decent housing. |
"Vitriol" is putting it a little strongly. "Frustration" might be more accurate. Also, the poster apologized. Everyone should probably be more careful with their language. Not all kids from a specific housing development necessarily cause problems so broad statements about such kids are probably inaccurate and unfair. Similar, not every criticism of the school is "racist". |
Fair point. The saddest part is the kids from that housing development who want to succeed having to go to the school. That’s the disservice in this, and it is nothing ACPS is willing to confront. And UMC kids going to the school and also being poorly served by a broken system is not going to fix anything either. In other words, if I were OP and had options, I would look to not send my children to JH. I have said it somewhere on here before - ACPS parents tend to be disingenuous cheerleaders for the system; otherwise we feel guilty that we cannot afford to move or send our kids to private school. I assuage my guilt by trying to promote change and publicly criticize where warranted. Others do so by gaslighting themselves and those who will listen. There is only one conditionally accredited school in all of FCPS (Justice HS), and in ACPS our single, monstrous HS is only conditionally accredited. That is derelict. (JH is also only conditionally accredited). |
Not even half that. It was seven years ago (2017) and the process lingered for a year and a half. Essentially nothing changed except they drew more kids from the ARHA housing (projects) into Maury (now Brooks) and they publically proclaimed they would cease all admin transfers out of JH. But, privately, they granted every single one. |
JH parent here. Everyone that makes assumptions about public housing, if you aren’t at the school and don’t know the families, you don’t have credibility. Yes, ACPS - not just JH has families with tremendous challenges. However there are underserved families who care deeply about their children’s education. The people on this forum who keep painting this picture of JH from how it was a decade ago or even 5 years ago are no longer informed and have not seen its transformation and evolution. JH is a vibrant, wonderful community of families. The parents are all so active and we have awesome events and opportunities for the community to come together. Test scores are reflective of ACPS demographics generally and not a metric to measure broad opinion. Test scores are also something the district is focusing on across all schools.
There is a lot of misinformation in many of these posts about transfers. Admin transfers are not allowed and are no longer granted. For a long time, district allowed principals to transfer kids to JH from all over the city. That too has stopped. JH is no only serving the kids who are zoned for JH - Potomac Yard, Old Town North, and Half of Del Ray. Many of the comments about public housing is also incorrect, as much of the public housing has been rebuilt or will be rebuilt into mixed income high rises. There is a difference between pushing racial tropes and stereotypes and criticizing a school on approach to education. The people that do the first are indeed racist. That’s a fact. Everyone on this forum who, when they visualize or think about people from public housing at an elementary school, if you feel scared or shudder or feel anger, should read How to be an Anti-Racist. If you don’t want to be in a school district thats 50% FARM, fine don’t be, but the fact that you come onto a anonymous public site and fear monger, say things like Run, or speak ill of underserved children of color and their families, that’s what makes you racist, whether you want to see and accept that or not. |
That is 100% false. I can't put it any clearer. Not a single kid on my block goes to JH, despite being zoned for it. My own kids had transfers to Brooks long after they supposedly stopped being handed out. You are just wrong. And, really, please dispense with the racist this and racist that. Most of us are just simply trying to raise our kids as best we can. There is no agenda. JH is the worst school in the system (and was the lowest performing school in the entire state at one point). People avoided THAT, not the skin color inside the school. |
My non-JH, ACPS 2nd grader is starting to suffer the effects of being an average MC child in a class of high needs children. The fact that she is only performing at grade level when she was in the 97% on the NNAT in first grade seems to me that she is not reaching potential. But, her teachers and the school are overwhelmed by the 45% ESL population, meaning she does not even make the list of kids needing a parent-teacher conference. This is why one should not send their kids to certain schools - they will be consumed by kids needing 90% of teachers and staff attention and mediocrity becomes success. |
Better yet, the actual purpose of the redistricting was to literally use your child to boost the poor performance of those other kids and therefore give the appearance of a higher performing school. They are not there to challenge your kid. |
Yep! The simple fact of ACPS is that you will never find a parent who is critical about JH because they are gone or took a transfer and don't want to talk about it. The best people to talk to would be the families that moved their rising third graders to Fairfax, but they are gone. If you don't know how to transfer out of JH then you likely aren't ever going to find out as you don't run in the right circles. |
Yes this is the key issue. What is needed in those schools is more than one teacher per classroom. Spend less on the central office and more on getting teachers into classrooms. There are kids who start out in PreK and go all the way thru ACHS and are still failing and can barely read or do basic math. So clearly something the school is doing doesn’t work. Public housing is filled with generational poverty. And that’s not mean it’s the fact that once a family is in they can’t leave because where else can they go they can afford. Blame the City for not helping two generations ago move into their own permanent housing. The mistake of J-H was putting that IB program there. Instead they should have went with the traditional model that Lyles Crouch. There was a high demand for that program and it had good results. I feel they cheated the students who needed it most. |
I think this is going to consume ACPS at all schools - even the east end schools. ACPS’ ELL population is growing exponentially (hello sanctuary city policies). 40% of ACPS is ELL and growing. In some of that population the kids not only come from non-English speaking households, but households where the adults are illiterate (no matter the language). ACPS is not positioned to effectively and meaningfully educate kids in classrooms where a few are gifted and 40% come from illiterate, non-English-speaking homes. And a portion of those 40% are special needs. The teachers are not trained or equipped to address these disparities. |
Who are you to say ACPS teachers are not trained or equipped to work with these students? All I see at school events are highly effective, professional teachers. Teachers with specialities in interventions and English language learning. Shame on you for putting down these hard working teachers who work thier butts off in difficult positions. |