Students at colleges with grade deflation and grad admissions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Top graduate programs know what the median GPA is at most schools as well as the 25th and 75th.

While Harvard has grade inflation, it's worth mentioning that Harvard has grade cutoffs for various latin honors and those are restricted to certain percentages of the class, and those tell you a lot, and every top grad program is familiar with them. For example, in order to get Summa you must be in the top 5% of gpas in the class, in addition to other requirements.

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But UVA has graduation distinctions nontheless, just not in Latin: with distinction; with honors; with high honors and finally, with highest honors = summa equivalent


Yeah, but so what? Lots of schools like [b]UVA don’t have Latin honors

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The point is that to get into a top grad school program the student needs to distinguish themselves, whether it be called “summa”, “with greatest honors”, “phi beta kappa”, or class rank

[Anonymous]

For pre-Med students and Medical School applications, it might well be higher probability of acceptance if DC is among the very top applicants from a mid-tier school than in the middle or lower group of applicants from a top school — if MCATs are identical and other factors are identical.

Arts and letters subjects have more subjective grading (and usually higher median grades) than STEM subjects, where more objective grading is possible (because most science & math test questions boil down to calculating a specific precise answer).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For pre-Med students and Medical School applications, it might well be higher probability of acceptance if DC is among the very top applicants from a mid-tier school than in the middle or lower group of applicants from a top school — if MCATs are identical and other factors are identical.

Arts and letters subjects have more subjective grading (and usually higher median grades) than STEM subjects, where more objective grading is possible (because most science & math test questions boil down to calculating a specific precise answer).

Huh? I did not understand one word that you wrote. Maybe that's just me, though. Can you rephrase?

[Anonymous]

No colleges have grade deflation. All have grade inflation.

[Anonymous]

No colleges have grade deflation. All have grade inflation.

Even if that is true there are often big differences in median gpa between colleges.

The differences in competition for grades have serious implications for students pursuing pre-law, pre-med, or job opportunities with strict gpa requirements.

The same student could have meaningfully different opportunities in life based on the gpa they get in college.

[Anonymous]

Most employers will know which schools have grade deflation

[Anonymous]

^There have been studies showing people are too busy to pause and take grade deflation/inflation into account:

https://qz.com/110434/the-psychological-phenomenon-that-skews-college-admissions-and-hiring" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://qz.com/110434/the-psychological-phenomenon-that-skews-college-admissions-and-hiring

I strongly doubt that most recruiters factor in whether or not a school grade deflates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^There have been studies showing people are too busy to pause and take grade deflation/inflation into account:

https://qz.com/110434/the-psychological-phenomenon-that-skews-college-admissions-and-hiring" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://qz.com/110434/the-psychological-phenomenon-that-skews-college-admissions-and-hiring

I strongly doubt that most recruiters factor in whether or not a school grade deflates.

Almost all schools have grade Inflation. Nevertheless, I think most know.

[Anonymous]

I think a 3.0 from MIT would be more favorably looked at than a 4.0 from Podunk U

[Anonymous]

I think a 3.0 from MIT would be more favorably looked at than a 4.0 from Podunk U

Def not by law schools or med schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Trust me folks. For a happy pre-med path, do not go to the best (most competitive) schools that accept you for undergrad. Grade deflation is real. Med School AOs may allow a small discount for top undergrad programs but this will not make things up for most kids. I have two DCs in med school. One Princeton undergrad and another from a T50. Both in about the same place now wrt med school. Princeton grad is in therapy from all the stress.

Yeah, you want the honors programs at places like Drew, SMCM, Towson and SJU for pre-med.

Drew university is a hidden gem. Great option for pre-med. has great outcomes as well.

https://drew.edu/academic/deans-office-college-of-liberal-arts/honors/baldwin-honors/

[Anonymous]

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I think a 3.0 from MIT would be more favorably looked at than a 4.0 from Podunk U

Def not by law schools or med schools

Agree for med and law schools.