Students at colleges with grade deflation and grad admissions

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to go to law school or med school then go to undergrad at your state flagship for Christ sake.

Says the person not from VA

Mine is pre med at uva and agrees! Go to your state school-/ even better if it has a hospital affiliated with it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trust me folks. For a happy pre-med path, do not go to the best (most competitive) schools that accept you for undergrad. Grade deflation is real. Med School AOs may allow a small discount for top undergrad programs but this will not make things up for most kids. I have two DCs in med school. One Princeton undergrad and another from a T50. Both in about the same place now wrt med school. Princeton grad is in therapy from all the stress.

Grade inflation is real at every selective college in the U.S.

https://gradeinflation.com/

"Every selective college" is not listed on this chart.

Look at the list at the bottom. None have grade deflation. All have grade inflation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Trust me folks. For a happy pre-med path, do not go to the best (most competitive) schools that accept you for undergrad. Grade deflation is real. Med School AOs may allow a small discount for top undergrad programs but this will not make things up for most kids. I have two DCs in med school. One Princeton undergrad and another from a T50. Both in about the same place now wrt med school. Princeton grad is in therapy from all the stress.

Yeah, you want the honors programs at places like Drew, SMCM, Towson and SJU for pre-med.

I know a few that went to Drew and they said it is such a hidden gem.

Beautiful campus, supportive teachers, and a collaborative environment. For them into the same med school as their T25 friends- and they are in a better place mentally.

[Anonymous]

Colgate was brutal with grading. My freshman seminar professor said he usually gave a C to most kids unless they said something really impressive. Colgate professors made you really work for an A or B.

I found that despite going to a very challenging high school where I took 9 APs, I did not have what it took to get great grades there especially at first. I had to really push my thinking and that took time to learn.

I do think it made applying to grad school difficult for many of us but I am confident I got a great education.

[Anonymous]

For grad school admissions, letters of recommendation count a lot more. Make sure those are great and in-depth, not generic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trust me folks. For a happy pre-med path, do not go to the best (most competitive) schools that accept you for undergrad. Grade deflation is real. Med School AOs may allow a small discount for top undergrad programs but this will not make things up for most kids. I have two DCs in med school. One Princeton undergrad and another from a T50. Both in about the same place now wrt med school. Princeton grad is in therapy from all the stress.

+100

Princeton grad who got hosed in top law school admissions.

Prestige wasn’t worth the stress. Would have been better off somewhere chill with easy grading.

[Anonymous]

Grad schools know the grade inflation landscape. Real question is what level of stress do you want undergrad vs what you will gain from attending a specific school. No free lunches as they say.

[Anonymous]

I heard this on a tour at Davidson. The tour guide gave the example of a professor who did not believe in giving A’s “because no one is perfect.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trust me folks. For a happy pre-med path, do not go to the best (most competitive) schools that accept you for undergrad. Grade deflation is real. Med School AOs may allow a small discount for top undergrad programs but this will not make things up for most kids. I have two DCs in med school. One Princeton undergrad and another from a T50. Both in about the same place now wrt med school. Princeton grad is in therapy from all the stress.

+100

Princeton grad who got hosed in top law school admissions.

Prestige wasn’t worth the stress. Would have been better off somewhere chill with easy grading.

What was your major? STEM or humanities?

[Anonymous]

Grad schools/med schools/law schools may or may not know the grade deflation situation. It is much better to just go to an easy grading school to be safe.

The same goes for high schools. Most colleges absolutely do not know the grading systems at all of these private high schools, so a low GPA from a private HS can kill your kid's application.

[Anonymous]

What was your major? STEM or humanities?

Humanities but with a lot of foreign language classes where I got hit hard grade wise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to go to law school or med school then go to undergrad at your state flagship for Christ sake.

Says the person not from VA

I don't understand your comment. My DC went to UVA and is now at my alma mater harvard law

+1. I dont understand it either. My DC went to UVA and is now at Oxford and will be applying soon to T6 law schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want to go to law school or med school then go to undergrad at your state flagship for Christ sake.

Says the person not from VA

Mine is pre med at uva and agrees! Go to your state school-/ even better if it has a hospital affiliated with it.

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+1. Take advantage in instate tuition and bank the difference for grad school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trust me folks. For a happy pre-med path, do not go to the best (most competitive) schools that accept you for undergrad. Grade deflation is real. Med School AOs may allow a small discount for top undergrad programs but this will not make things up for most kids. I have two DCs in med school. One Princeton undergrad and another from a T50. Both in about the same place now wrt med school. Princeton grad is in therapy from all the stress.

This same advice goes for Law School - Save your money, ace your grades - you need Summa, Phi Beta Kappa and super high LSAT scores to get in the top 14....undergrad does not matter.

Not summa. Many schools like UVA no longer have Latin designations nor eve phi beta kappa. So it becomes (for law school) a battle of GPA, LSAT score and the other junk like URM and before you say "not true", I can prove it for harvard law (where i went) and others that they do indeed look at URM and the other skin color issues for law school admissions. it is what it is currently.

I was summa and it got me into Harvard law, and the other top law schools in America. No hooks

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Top graduate programs know what the median GPA is at most schools as well as the 25th and 75th.

While Harvard has grade inflation, it's worth mentioning that Harvard has grade cutoffs for various latin honors and those are restricted to certain percentages of the class, and those tell you a lot, and every top grad program is familiar with them. For example, in order to get Summa you must be in the top 5% of gpas in the class, in addition to other requirements.

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But UVA has graduation distinctions nontheless, just not in Latin: with distinction; with honors; with high honors and finally, with highest honors = summa equivalent


Yeah, but so what? Lots of schools like [b]UVA don’t have Latin honors