Are AP exam scores factored into admission decision?

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Anonymous wrote:My kids have always reported AP scores, mainly because of grade inflation it is important to distinguish yourself from other candidates. SAT scores, AP scores, course rigor everything paints a complete picture.

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UW Madison doesn't look at

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. Not at all.

This blanket statement is false. We know that Emory wants AP scores if you don’t submit SAT scores. See 2023 Selingo interview. Sara Harberson talks about a candidate being rejected for having a 4 instead of a 5 on an exam. We know in Selingo’s book a 4 on AP Calc actually helped an applicant over the hump.

How would she know this?

Because she witnessed it as an admissions officer/dean.

Anything that happened regarding testing of any kind before the last few years is irrelevant. When did she last work in admissions?

Fall 2023, John Latting, Emory's dean of admissions: "Latting said Emory’s admissions office has retooled its rankings system for applicants, formally incorporating nontraditional measures such as creative output and educational opportunity for the first time this year. They’re also weighing “external assessment” more heavily than GPA, with a particular focus on AP scores."

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/admissions/traditional-age/2023/10/23/assessing-college-readiness-pandemic-generation

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. Not at all.

This blanket statement is false. We know that Emory wants AP scores if you don’t submit SAT scores. See 2023 Selingo interview. Sara Harberson talks about a candidate being rejected for having a 4 instead of a 5 on an exam. We know in Selingo’s book a 4 on AP Calc actually helped an applicant over the hump.

This is absurdly stupid. Kids spend 4 years putting together their accomplishments, grades, ECs, essays, etc. And A SINGLE AP EXAM GRADE rules them out?

Fu---ing absurd.

Well presumably it was the straw that broke the camel's back. At a certain stage in the process, the school has more qualified students than they can admit. If a pool of students is otherwise equivalent, but some have straight 5s and some don't, that's one way to make a selection. What's your suggestion of who they deny at that point?

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Anonymous wrote:To increase chances for merit aid, is it better to self report especially if scores are decent?

I think so. My kid got generous merit aid and so many credits that he could easily for in two majors in college

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. Not at all.

This blanket statement is false. We know that Emory wants AP scores if you don’t submit SAT scores. See 2023 Selingo interview. Sara Harberson talks about a candidate being rejected for having a 4 instead of a 5 on an exam. We know in Selingo’s book a 4 on AP Calc actually helped an applicant over the hump.

This is absurdly stupid. Kids spend 4 years putting together their accomplishments, grades, ECs, essays, etc. And A SINGLE AP EXAM GRADE rules them out?

Fu---ing absurd.

Well presumably it was the straw that broke the camel's back. At a certain stage in the process, the school has more qualified students than they can admit. If a pool of students is otherwise equivalent, but some have straight 5s and some don't, that's one way to make a selection. What's your suggestion of who they deny at that point?

GMAB. I know how it works as I've read the same things everyone else on here has read. But, rarely is it that black and white.
Even if it is as far as grades, the ECs and others are harder to quantify as being a plus or minus.

I don't make any suggestion but it's lazy of the college, and silly of them, to say one grade on one AP exam is the differentiator.

[Anonymous]

For top schools, if the scores are great, there will be no boost. But otherwise, they'll impact your chance negatively.

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Last year my daughter bombed all of her AP exams -- she had As in 3/4 classes. She was run ragged and sick and literally fell asleep during one of them. She had to take the exam or she wouldn't get a GPA bump (APS). I also told her prior to that that I didn't care what she got. She submitted her GPA and 33 ACT score and has been admitted at 4 schools so far and waitlist at UVA. No AP scores submitted for those 4 classes or 1 the year before.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. Not at all.

This blanket statement is false. We know that Emory wants AP scores if you don’t submit SAT scores. See 2023 Selingo interview. Sara Harberson talks about a candidate being rejected for having a 4 instead of a 5 on an exam. We know in Selingo’s book a 4 on AP Calc actually helped an applicant over the hump.

This is absurdly stupid. Kids spend 4 years putting together their accomplishments, grades, ECs, essays, etc. And A SINGLE AP EXAM GRADE rules them out?

Fu---ing absurd.

Well presumably it was the straw that broke the camel's back. At a certain stage in the process, the school has more qualified students than they can admit. If a pool of students is otherwise equivalent, but some have straight 5s and some don't, that's one way to make a selection. What's your suggestion of who they deny at that point?

GMAB. I know how it works as I've read the same things everyone else on here has read. But, rarely is it that black and white.
Even if it is as far as grades, the ECs and others are harder to quantify as being a plus or minus.

I don't make any suggestion but it's lazy of the college, and silly of them, to say one grade on one AP exam is the differentiator.

Then you know from Selingo’s book that an AP Calc score saved a kid with a low math SAT from being denied. It works both ways. No one is suggesting it’s a primary factor but it seems at times to be a deciding factor within a much larger context.

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Certain colleges require AP scores, OP.

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Anonymous wrote:Certain colleges require AP scores, OP.

Which ones?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:T10 schools give little/no course credit for the AP tests.

However, it’s a data point to compare your child to other students at your high school. And if you are a student who took 6 challenging APs your junior year and got all 5s, that can make you stand out. But it’s just part of the overall package.

This

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Anonymous wrote:T10 schools give little/no course credit for the AP tests.

However, it’s a data point to compare your child to other students at your high school. And if you are a student who took 6 challenging APs your junior year and got all 5s, that can make you stand out. But it’s just part of the overall package.

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And many in Top 25 give tons of credit or benefits. I know one that uses APs as a means to rank who gets to select courses first each semester. The kids with more APs have higher priority than kids without. There's a true benefit to that

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. Not at all.

This blanket statement is false. We know that Emory wants AP scores if you don’t submit SAT scores. See 2023 Selingo interview. Sara Harberson talks about a candidate being rejected for having a 4 instead of a 5 on an exam. We know in Selingo’s book a 4 on AP Calc actually helped an applicant over the hump.

How would she know this?

Because she witnessed it as an admissions officer/dean.

Anything that happened regarding testing of any kind before the last few years is irrelevant. When did she last work in admissions?

Fall 2023, John Latting, Emory's dean of admissions: "Latting said Emory’s admissions office has retooled its rankings system for applicants, formally incorporating nontraditional measures such as creative output and educational opportunity for the first time this year. They’re also weighing “external assessment” more heavily than GPA, with a particular focus on AP scores."

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/admissions/traditional-age/2023/10/23/assessing-college-readiness-pandemic-generation

Paging Georgetown Day College office - who just removed all AP testing on campus, leaving its kids to scramble to take the test at public schools around the DMV

[Anonymous]

When merit aid application is filled, do they require submission of AP scores or provide a place to self report? or is the entire college application part of merit aid application?