Are there four year colleges for C students.

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Anonymous wrote:Every kid we know who has gotten into Alabama this year has had over a 3.8.

That doesn't mean you have to have that to get in.

You were right. It means you actually have to have a higher GPA.

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Anonymous wrote:For VCU last year, the mid 50% of admitted students GPA was a 3.7.

The 75th percentile of SAT was 1290 with only 32% submitting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every kid we know who has gotten into Alabama this year has had over a 3.8.

That doesn't mean you have to have that to get in.

You were right. It means you actually have to have a higher GPA.

So you know everyone who was admitted?

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Anonymous wrote:Budget less then 40k per year.

Distance prefer 3-5 hours from DMV area (could be closer, but doesn't want to live at home)

Student has an amazing essay and has overcome a long term hospitalization, followed by bare minimum classes (took summer school all three years to stay on grade level) and grades for a year due to major health issue, then lingering depression. Now both are under control. There could be one surgery in the future, but doctor thinks it can wait until age 24-25.

But GPA and SAT score are subpar. I think the essay could really get them into the right program, if school looks at bigger picture.

Thank you for any recommendations and kindness.

Longwood
Radford
Mary Baldwin (now co-ed)
Roanoke
Old Dominion

I'm more familiar with VA colleges, but there are some decent Maryland options as well.

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HBCUs

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Anonymous wrote:Budget less then 40k per year.

Distance prefer 3-5 hours from DMV area (could be closer, but doesn't want to live at home)

Student has an amazing essay and has overcome a long term hospitalization, followed by bare minimum classes (took summer school all three years to stay on grade level) and grades for a year due to major health issue, then lingering depression. Now both are under control. There could be one surgery in the future, but doctor thinks it can wait until age 24-25.

But GPA and SAT score are subpar. I think the essay could really get them into the right program, if school looks at bigger picture.

Thank you for any recommendations and kindness.

Oh gosh. You should be very proud, OP! The essay will go a long way to make up for some of the grade/scores issues. There are plenty of 4-year colleges for kids with those grades anyway, but your kid has done amazingly well in the face of really severe adversity.

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Anonymous wrote:College prof here.

There are C students who sincerely care and try or maybe they have difficulties that are hard to overcome. They are genuinely benefitting from college.

There are C students who are smart enough but absolutely not interested in school and are getting a C average because they are earning Ds and Fs in some classes and Bs and As in a few easy ones or ones where they can game assignments or group work. These students hardly come to class and often surface at the last minute or ask for favors from classmates and teachers.

The former are good candidates for smaller schools that form personal relationships with students or ones that have programs like PP mentioned. The later should take time to mature or decide if they'd rather pursue a passion or trade. I say this as someone who watches students waste thousands of dollars each year, many unbeknownst to parents until it's too late.

I think there are more than two kinds of C students. Mine tests off the charts in many areas of strength, but has severe ADHD, very low executive function, and visuospatial processing disorder. This makes some classes, especially the quant-based classes in his business school curriculum, very hard. You're right that he does do well in other types of classes, which you may consider easy, while getting Ds and even an F in the ones that are harder for him. This is not because he doesn't show up. It's because he has challenges. He will graduate with a C+ GPA from a top 25 national university. He will probably struggle to find a job and may wind up in trade anyway. But it's not a waste to us. He is building incredible knowledge and making lifetime connections with bright, hard-working people.

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Anonymous wrote:Budget less then 40k per year.

Distance prefer 3-5 hours from DMV area (could be closer, but doesn't want to live at home)

Student has an amazing essay and has overcome a long term hospitalization, followed by bare minimum classes (took summer school all three years to stay on grade level) and grades for a year due to major health issue, then lingering depression. Now both are under control. There could be one surgery in the future, but doctor thinks it can wait until age 24-25.

But GPA and SAT score are subpar. I think the essay could really get them into the right program, if school looks at bigger picture.

Thank you for any recommendations and kindness.

Check out University of West Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For VCU last year, the mid 50% of admitted students GPA was a 3.7.

The 75th percentile of SAT was 1290 with only 32% submitting.

VCU offers GUARANTEED admission to anyone with a 3.5.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Budget less then 40k per year.

Distance prefer 3-5 hours from DMV area (could be closer, but doesn't want to live at home)

Student has an amazing essay and has overcome a long term hospitalization, followed by bare minimum classes (took summer school all three years to stay on grade level) and grades for a year due to major health issue, then lingering depression. Now both are under control. There could be one surgery in the future, but doctor thinks it can wait until age 24-25.

But GPA and SAT score are subpar. I think the essay could really get them into the right program, if school looks at bigger picture.

Thank you for any recommendations and kindness.

Check out University of West Virginia

Otherwise known as West Virginia University. I would not trust anyone who recommends a college whose name they don’t actually know.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:College prof here.

There are C students who sincerely care and try or maybe they have difficulties that are hard to overcome. They are genuinely benefitting from college.

There are C students who are smart enough but absolutely not interested in school and are getting a C average because they are earning Ds and Fs in some classes and Bs and As in a few easy ones or ones where they can game assignments or group work. These students hardly come to class and often surface at the last minute or ask for favors from classmates and teachers.

The former are good candidates for smaller schools that form personal relationships with students or ones that have programs like PP mentioned. The later should take time to mature or decide if they'd rather pursue a passion or trade. I say this as someone who watches students waste thousands of dollars each year, many unbeknownst to parents until it's too late.

I think there are more than two kinds of C students. Mine tests off the charts in many areas of strength, but has severe ADHD, very low executive function, and visuospatial processing disorder. This makes some classes, especially the quant-based classes in his business school curriculum, very hard. You're right that he does do well in other types of classes, which you may consider easy, while getting Ds and even an F in the ones that are harder for him. This is not because he doesn't show up. It's because he has challenges. He will graduate with a C+ GPA from a top 25 national university. He will probably struggle to find a job and may wind up in trade anyway. But it's not a waste to us. He is building incredible knowledge and making lifetime connections with bright, hard-working people.

Your kid will be fine. When it comes to business majors, the A students work for the B students, the C students run the businesses, and the D students dedicate the buildings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:College prof here.

There are C students who sincerely care and try or maybe they have difficulties that are hard to overcome. They are genuinely benefitting from college.

There are C students who are smart enough but absolutely not interested in school and are getting a C average because they are earning Ds and Fs in some classes and Bs and As in a few easy ones or ones where they can game assignments or group work. These students hardly come to class and often surface at the last minute or ask for favors from classmates and teachers.

The former are good candidates for smaller schools that form personal relationships with students or ones that have programs like PP mentioned. The later should take time to mature or decide if they'd rather pursue a passion or trade. I say this as someone who watches students waste thousands of dollars each year, many unbeknownst to parents until it's too late.

I think there are more than two kinds of C students. Mine tests off the charts in many areas of strength, but has severe ADHD, very low executive function, and visuospatial processing disorder. This makes some classes, especially the quant-based classes in his business school curriculum, very hard. You're right that he does do well in other types of classes, which you may consider easy, while getting Ds and even an F in the ones that are harder for him. This is not because he doesn't show up. It's because he has challenges. He will graduate with a C+ GPA from a top 25 national university. He will probably struggle to find a job and may wind up in trade anyway. But it's not a waste to us. He is building incredible knowledge and making lifetime connections with bright, hard-working people.

Your kid will be fine. When it comes to business majors, the A students work for the B students, the C students run the businesses, and the D students dedicate the buildings.

This is such bullshit. And said by those who had underperforming kids.

[Anonymous]

I am not sure what the finances might be - but check out David & Elkins in WV.

Some of the smaller / more regional Catholic Colleges might also be a good fit (it they work for your family). University of Scranton, Duquesne, DeSales. I know they really look are the whole application and not just the numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what the finances might be - but check out David & Elkins in WV.

Some of the smaller / more regional Catholic Colleges might also be a good fit (it they work for your family). University of Scranton, Duquesne, DeSales. I know they really look are the whole application and not just the numbers.

University of Scranton does not take C+ students unless they are full pay and Scranton is not cheap.

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Anonymous wrote:

In Virginia, you have lots. ODU, VCU, Radford, Mary Washington, Longwood, CNU, and GMU. Certain majors might have requirements for high school courses/grades of course. In Maryland, most of the publics.

This is good advice. I would also add Randolph-Macon College. OP, I would lean toward a smaller school that provides good support and don't see any reason to pay out of state tuition (at least not initially). My brother was very smart and had similar struggles. Your DS will be fine.

For a lot of schools on this list, a C student will not get in. Maybe 30 years ago but not now. GMU and CNU in particular have upped their standards.