Marijuana causes teen psychosis- more evidence

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Marijuana is more potent today. You shouldn’t compare it to when you were young.

Maybe not, but it's also an absolute red herring. Stronger weed = lower doses less often, that's all.

Completely wrong! And honestly fascinating that you mouth off about stuff that’s the subject of extensive scientific study.

[Anonymous]

Yup, saw this firsthand with my brother. He was likely predisposed because he'd suffered from depression and anxiety from his early teens, but the weed triggered full blown psychosis and a schizoaffective disorder diagnosis. He was living with me at the time and it was one of the most stressful experiences of my life. I can only imagine how it was for him. It just sucks - definitely derailed him.

[Anonymous]

I'd rather my teen smoke cigarettes than pot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yup, saw this firsthand with my brother. He was likely predisposed because he'd suffered from depression and anxiety from his early teens, but the weed triggered full blown psychosis and a schizoaffective disorder diagnosis. He was living with me at the time and it was one of the most stressful experiences of my life. I can only imagine how it was for him. It just sucks - definitely derailed him.

Happened to my nephew, now 22. Totally derailed his life. It took three intensive years and $$$$$ to get him semi-back on track. The toll on him and his parents (mentally emotionally and financially) is devastating.

My hilarious nephew is just not the same person he was in high school. Not sure if it’s the medication (he’ll always be on medication) but he seems kinda slower, jokes infrequently and has to sleep waaayy more; everything is just much harder and things just take much longer, for him. I worry it will also be hard for him to work a regular, fast-paced job.

We’re all thrilled he’s doing as well as he is and are so happy for him. It’s been hard work and is so hard to see.

I tell my kids (late teens) presume you may be susceptible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Marijuana is more potent today. You shouldn’t compare it to when you were young.

Maybe not, but it's also an absolute red herring. Stronger weed = lower doses less often, that's all.

Completely wrong! And honestly fascinating that you mouth off about stuff that’s the subject of extensive scientific study.

It's true. I take all my weed in pill form from a licensed pharmacist. Don't you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This first paragraphs debunks the whole thing. He was already psychotic and was trying to medicate.

Maybe it was dihydrogen monoxide that triggered the psychosis. He consumed that on the fateful day as well.

That’s not what the article says. “Doctors have diagnosed him with a psychotic disorder, brought on by using cannabis.”

Is that from a blood test or a doctor's guess?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how the pro-marijuana sleeps at night hearing story after story like this.

It's seriously ruining so much.

I’ll tell you why.

Because illegal marijuana destroyed millions upon millions of lives in the war on drugs - I was a prosecutor, I saw it firsthand. All those funding streams voted in by prudish politicians to feed the prudish public meant decades of law enforcement attention busting pot smokers while claiming not enough resources to root out violent crime like all the unsolved murders and rapes etc.

Because legal marijuana is saving hundreds of thousands of lives, particularly in the addiction community where folks have been able to get off opioid drugs and manage their pain with marijuana instead which won’t kill them, including tens of thousands of veterans, men and women we sent to hell and do very little for when they return. Millions of people with chronic physical and mental health conditions whose pain responds well to management by marijuana therapy which has far fewer side effects than benzodiazepines, SSRIs/SNRIs, tricyclics, etc.

And beyond that I’m grateful that instead of being over in the dry January thread talking about my struggle to put down the booze for 31 days, booze that has zero health benefits but is rather linked to several cancers, heart disease, diabetes, liver disease, brain atrophy etc. and is at the root of so very many social ills, I could pop down to my local dispensary tonight and buy some high quality, tightly regulated marijuana to unwind a little from my week.

I’m truly sorry for people who have family members who developed psychosis linked to drug use. Teens aren’t supposed to be using drugs in any case, where is your outrage at the negligent parents as arises in so many other threads?

But I digress.

Yes a very small fraction of people at any age could have a serious negative reaction to using drugs that alter brain function. Same with alcohol, opiods, psychedelics. That is no reason to remove all those substances from availability to the vast majority of people who can use them responsibly and will not have serious adverse reaction. Illegal marijuana ruins exponentially more lives than legal marijuana. Psychosis is treatable and people can and usually do recover from it. Anyone with serious concern about the potential for serious negative consequences of using marijuana can just say no.

Pregnancy and postpartum triggers psychosis in some people who have wombs and use them. Should we ban the use of wombs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yup, saw this firsthand with my brother. He was likely predisposed because he'd suffered from depression and anxiety from his early teens, but the weed triggered full blown psychosis and a schizoaffective disorder diagnosis. He was living with me at the time and it was one of the most stressful experiences of my life. I can only imagine how it was for him. It just sucks - definitely derailed him.

This sounds like my brother too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yup, saw this firsthand with my brother. He was likely predisposed because he'd suffered from depression and anxiety from his early teens, but the weed triggered full blown psychosis and a schizoaffective disorder diagnosis. He was living with me at the time and it was one of the most stressful experiences of my life. I can only imagine how it was for him. It just sucks - definitely derailed him.

Happened to my nephew, now 22. Totally derailed his life. It took three intensive years and $$$$$ to get him semi-back on track. The toll on him and his parents (mentally emotionally and financially) is devastating.

My hilarious nephew is just not the same person he was in high school. Not sure if it’s the medication (he’ll always be on medication) but he seems kinda slower, jokes infrequently and has to sleep waaayy more; everything is just much harder and things just take much longer, for him. I worry it will also be hard for him to work a regular, fast-paced job.

We’re all thrilled he’s doing as well as he is and are so happy for him. It’s been hard work and is so hard to see.

I tell my kids (late teens) presume you may be susceptible.

It happened to my eldest brother, and also a friend from college.

I am not buying the whole “only if predisposed” argument.

In many cases, I believe the weed - especially todays super-potent weed - may actually be the cause.

In any event, marijuana is so destructive for developing teen brains.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how the pro-marijuana sleeps at night hearing story after story like this.

It's seriously ruining so much.

I’ll tell you why.

Because illegal marijuana destroyed millions upon millions of lives in the war on drugs - I was a prosecutor, I saw it firsthand. All those funding streams voted in by prudish politicians to feed the prudish public meant decades of law enforcement attention busting pot smokers while claiming not enough resources to root out violent crime like all the unsolved murders and rapes etc.

Because legal marijuana is saving hundreds of thousands of lives, particularly in the addiction community where folks have been able to get off opioid drugs and manage their pain with marijuana instead which won’t kill them, including tens of thousands of veterans, men and women we sent to hell and do very little for when they return. Millions of people with chronic physical and mental health conditions whose pain responds well to management by marijuana therapy which has far fewer side effects than benzodiazepines, SSRIs/SNRIs, tricyclics, etc.

And beyond that I’m grateful that instead of being over in the dry January thread talking about my struggle to put down the booze for 31 days, booze that has zero health benefits but is rather linked to several cancers, heart disease, diabetes, liver disease, brain atrophy etc. and is at the root of so very many social ills, I could pop down to my local dispensary tonight and buy some high quality, tightly regulated marijuana to unwind a little from my week.

I’m truly sorry for people who have family members who developed psychosis linked to drug use. Teens aren’t supposed to be using drugs in any case, where is your outrage at the negligent parents as arises in so many other threads?

But I digress.

Yes a very small fraction of people at any age could have a serious negative reaction to using drugs that alter brain function. Same with alcohol, opiods, psychedelics. That is no reason to remove all those substances from availability to the vast majority of people who can use them responsibly and will not have serious adverse reaction. Illegal marijuana ruins exponentially more lives than legal marijuana. Psychosis is treatable and people can and usually do recover from it. Anyone with serious concern about the potential for serious negative consequences of using marijuana can just say no.

Pregnancy and postpartum triggers psychosis in some people who have wombs and use them. Should we ban the use of wombs?

This is the best the pro-marijuana lobby can muster? It’s only a small fraction of people who are negatively impacted by marijuana? Comparing marijuana use to pregnancy?

You are definitely confirming your heavy use of marijuana with this half-baked logic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yup, saw this firsthand with my brother. He was likely predisposed because he'd suffered from depression and anxiety from his early teens, but the weed triggered full blown psychosis and a schizoaffective disorder diagnosis. He was living with me at the time and it was one of the most stressful experiences of my life. I can only imagine how it was for him. It just sucks - definitely derailed him.

This sounds like my brother too.

Mine as well. 😞

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how the pro-marijuana sleeps at night hearing story after story like this.

It's seriously ruining so much.

I’ll tell you why.

Because illegal marijuana destroyed millions upon millions of lives in the war on drugs - I was a prosecutor, I saw it firsthand. All those funding streams voted in by prudish politicians to feed the prudish public meant decades of law enforcement attention busting pot smokers while claiming not enough resources to root out violent crime like all the unsolved murders and rapes etc.

Because legal marijuana is saving hundreds of thousands of lives, particularly in the addiction community where folks have been able to get off opioid drugs and manage their pain with marijuana instead which won’t kill them, including tens of thousands of veterans, men and women we sent to hell and do very little for when they return. Millions of people with chronic physical and mental health conditions whose pain responds well to management by marijuana therapy which has far fewer side effects than benzodiazepines, SSRIs/SNRIs, tricyclics, etc.

And beyond that I’m grateful that instead of being over in the dry January thread talking about my struggle to put down the booze for 31 days, booze that has zero health benefits but is rather linked to several cancers, heart disease, diabetes, liver disease, brain atrophy etc. and is at the root of so very many social ills, I could pop down to my local dispensary tonight and buy some high quality, tightly regulated marijuana to unwind a little from my week.

I’m truly sorry for people who have family members who developed psychosis linked to drug use. Teens aren’t supposed to be using drugs in any case, where is your outrage at the negligent parents as arises in so many other threads?

But I digress.

Yes a very small fraction of people at any age could have a serious negative reaction to using drugs that alter brain function. Same with alcohol, opiods, psychedelics. That is no reason to remove all those substances from availability to the vast majority of people who can use them responsibly and will not have serious adverse reaction. Illegal marijuana ruins exponentially more lives than legal marijuana. Psychosis is treatable and people can and usually do recover from it. Anyone with serious concern about the potential for serious negative consequences of using marijuana can just say no.

Pregnancy and postpartum triggers psychosis in some people who have wombs and use them. Should we ban the use of wombs?

This is the best the pro-marijuana lobby can muster? It’s only a small fraction of people who are negatively impacted by marijuana? Comparing marijuana use to pregnancy?

You are definitely confirming your heavy use of marijuana with this half-baked logic.

He explained it perfectly. Medication is used to help all sorts of ailments or diseases. Some of the best medications typically have side effects.

Cancer treatment is toxic with nasty side effects but I take it to keep it from spreading. The nausea from cancer medications is like no other nausea i had ever had. Debilitating and almost unbearable. Weed helps.

Weed was very common in the 70s and the heavy smokers would mostly be in their 50s or 60s. Those are the ones that they need to study to see if there are any long term effects.

[Anonymous]

Two members of my family became debilitatingly paranoid when they smoked pot.

[Anonymous]

I absolutely believe this. I saw it first hand with a close friend. No family history but then schizophrenic after messing around with pot. It was very scary and I’m still so sad for the family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how the pro-marijuana sleeps at night hearing story after story like this.

It's seriously ruining so much.

I’ll tell you why.

Because illegal marijuana destroyed millions upon millions of lives in the war on drugs - I was a prosecutor, I saw it firsthand. All those funding streams voted in by prudish politicians to feed the prudish public meant decades of law enforcement attention busting pot smokers while claiming not enough resources to root out violent crime like all the unsolved murders and rapes etc.

Because legal marijuana is saving hundreds of thousands of lives, particularly in the addiction community where folks have been able to get off opioid drugs and manage their pain with marijuana instead which won’t kill them, including tens of thousands of veterans, men and women we sent to hell and do very little for when they return. Millions of people with chronic physical and mental health conditions whose pain responds well to management by marijuana therapy which has far fewer side effects than benzodiazepines, SSRIs/SNRIs, tricyclics, etc.

And beyond that I’m grateful that instead of being over in the dry January thread talking about my struggle to put down the booze for 31 days, booze that has zero health benefits but is rather linked to several cancers, heart disease, diabetes, liver disease, brain atrophy etc. and is at the root of so very many social ills, I could pop down to my local dispensary tonight and buy some high quality, tightly regulated marijuana to unwind a little from my week.

I’m truly sorry for people who have family members who developed psychosis linked to drug use. Teens aren’t supposed to be using drugs in any case, where is your outrage at the negligent parents as arises in so many other threads?

But I digress.

Yes a very small fraction of people at any age could have a serious negative reaction to using drugs that alter brain function. Same with alcohol, opiods, psychedelics. That is no reason to remove all those substances from availability to the vast majority of people who can use them responsibly and will not have serious adverse reaction. Illegal marijuana ruins exponentially more lives than legal marijuana. Psychosis is treatable and people can and usually do recover from it. Anyone with serious concern about the potential for serious negative consequences of using marijuana can just say no.

Pregnancy and postpartum triggers psychosis in some people who have wombs and use them. Should we ban the use of wombs?

“psychosis is treatable”
you selfish, delusional prick