How much is enough? College Presidents' Salaries (Harvard's Resigning President to Retain Near $900K Salary)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't kids be kicked out of Harvard for plagiarizing the way she did?

Having worked in academia for 30 years now, I'd love to run some of my former colleague's work through these plagiarizing checkers to see what comes up. The boomer and silent gen "thought leader" types I've worked with over the years took all kinds of liberties and really had no consequences. They aren't black women, so, they are probably won't be targeted.

Unfortunately for you, that Stanford's white male president resigned last year due to his research lab producing falsified data proves that you're wrong. People have been forced aside for plagiarism in the past. Why are some of you pretending this is a new form of punishment and the witch hunt was solely because Gay was black?

The reason Gay is so controversial is because she was a mediocre academic with a lackluster history of minimal publication and no books who rose to the top in a publish or perish environment where advancement and reputation are built upon not just volume of output but depth of citation history and peer reviews (in short, the more people that cite you, the more accomplished and successful you are). This system actually makes it hard to plagiarize and get away with it in the long run because of the role of peer reviewers validating your research and data. Peer reviewers did ask for Gay's data 20 years ago for her most important publication, an article that was the basis for her tenure, because they found it unreplicable and insufficient, but she refused to hand it over. Normally this is a major red flag. But Gay was allowed to get away without close scrutiny because she was a protected species in higher education: a black woman. It's hard to deny her race protected her for so long.

It's not to imply there can't be corruption elsewhere in academia or that there aren't other prominent faculty, white or black or Asian, who quietly fiddled with their research. I'm sure there are others crossing their fingers and staying out of the limelight. But Gay put herself in the limelight and made herself a target and her past history caught up. Spectacularly, as it turned out. If she had been content to remain dean, none of this would have happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is how affirmative action hurts everyone for the benefit for the few. Harvard reputation is no longer what it used to be with many top students avoiding it. It's also lost millions in donations. I am pretty sure his will not escape USNews's attention. Let Harvard pay for its sins for years to come until it repents.

Agree. Ridiculous that she will get that insane amount of money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do the Claudine Fans agree that a student would be disciplined for similar plagiarisms? Is that a fact everyone can agree on?

No examples of actual plagiarism (word-for-word copying) were identified, genius. Sloppy citation is not plagiarism.

This is personal revenge crusade for Elise Stefanik after she was removed from Harvard‘s senior advisory committee for being an election denier. https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/12/harvard-removes-elise-stefanik-advisory-commitee-458141

Stefanik’s anti-democracy and anti-American actions are far worse than some sloppy citations in scholarships. But let’s see her academic work from her years at Harvard anyway. I would like to check them for plagiarism.

Failure to cite is plagiarism, genius. That far right wing publication, the New York Times, found 47 such instances (and counting).

[Anonymous]

How much are coaches of football teams (not at Harvard) paid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elite colleges wouldn't be able to get anyone to do the job if they didn't pay this much. This may come as a surprise, but there are not many qualified people (within or outside of academia) banging at the door for this job. It's a mix of politics and fundraising with too many competing constituents pulling in different directions.

Her salary is within range of all of the elite schools. This is the market working, whether you like it or not.

-- signed faculty who participated in the hiring committee at another elite school

What OP means is how dare that negress be given that money

Many top univ presidents make a lot more. Fair question as to how much she should make after resigning. She probably had some ground to sue Harvard and have this get a lot uglier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do the Claudine Fans agree that a student would be disciplined for similar plagiarisms? Is that a fact everyone can agree on?

No examples of actual plagiarism (word-for-word copying) were identified, genius. Sloppy citation is not plagiarism.

This is personal revenge crusade for Elise Stefanik after she was removed from Harvard‘s senior advisory committee for being an election denier. https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/12/harvard-removes-elise-stefanik-advisory-commitee-458141

Stefanik’s anti-democracy and anti-American actions are far worse than some sloppy citations in scholarships. But let’s see her academic work from her years at Harvard anyway. I would like to check them for plagiarism.

Failure to cite is plagiarism, genius. That far right wing publication, the New York Times, found 47 such instances (and counting).

It’s not the complaints about plagiarism that is so disgusting in this. It’s the insinuation that she did it because she is black and was chosen because affirmative action when your lot was screaming that Marc Tessigier-Levigne was forced out of Stanford because he is a cis white male. Add in that traitor Stefanik’s grudge and abuse of office here and it’s beyond disgusting.

Let’s see HER academic work. I intend to go through it with a fine-toothed comb.

Maybe Harvard should rescind her degree.

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