How much is enough? College Presidents' Salaries (Harvard's Resigning President to Retain Near $900K Salary)

[Anonymous]

I'm a prof/admin at a major R1 and have proximity to the president and provost. The president spends 100 days a year traveling to fundraise. Their schedule on campus begins usually around 7:45 am and ends many nights after 8pm (hosting a dinner 3-5x a week). There is no downtime in the summer other than the vacations they can carve out for a couple of weeks, and even then they fundraise. Their time is immensely overscheduled and nearly every one of those minutes is consequential. I know personally they end up working at 10pm and 5am besides this time. The budget is multi-billions and the employee base is over 10,000 people. The regulatory environment is intense. Every decision is weighted. You are naive if you don't understand the immensity of the organization. I wouldn't give up my life like this for under a few million

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Elite colleges wouldn't be able to get anyone to do the job if they didn't pay this much. This may come as a surprise, but there are not many qualified people (within or outside of academia) banging at the door for this job. It's a mix of politics and fundraising with too many competing constituents pulling in different directions.

Her salary is within range of all of the elite schools. This is the market working, whether you like it or not.

-- signed faculty who participated in the hiring committee at another elite school

What OP means is how dare that negress be given that money

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Elite colleges wouldn't be able to get anyone to do the job if they didn't pay this much. This may come as a surprise, but there are not many qualified people (within or outside of academia) banging at the door for this job. It's a mix of politics and fundraising with too many competing constituents pulling in different directions.

Her salary is within range of all of the elite schools. This is the market working, whether you like it or not.

-- signed faculty who participated in the hiring committee at another elite school

But to keep it post resignation??

Yes, normal practice. Similar to CEO's golden parachute. There is a contract involved.

Does she get this in perpetuity? Like a pension?

No, she should get her faculty salary after this academic year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Elite colleges wouldn't be able to get anyone to do the job if they didn't pay this much. This may come as a surprise, but there are not many qualified people (within or outside of academia) banging at the door for this job. It's a mix of politics and fundraising with too many competing constituents pulling in different directions.

Her salary is within range of all of the elite schools. This is the market working, whether you like it or not.

-- signed faculty who participated in the hiring committee at another elite school

But to keep it post resignation??

After what she's been through? All the more so. The next applicant knows they could be thrown to the wolves at any moment, they'll demand the same. That's the game, thanks for playing.

What has she “been through” that wasn’t self-inflicted?

Other than being targeted by right-wing cancel culture, led by that horrible NY congress critter Stefanik?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is how affirmative action hurts everyone for the benefit for the few. Harvard reputation is no longer what it used to be with many top students avoiding it. It's also lost millions in donations. I am pretty sure his will not escape USNews's attention. Let Harvard pay for its sins for years to come until it repents.

What does this have to do with affirmative action? Explain it to me like I am 5.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Elite colleges wouldn't be able to get anyone to do the job if they didn't pay this much. This may come as a surprise, but there are not many qualified people (within or outside of academia) banging at the door for this job. It's a mix of politics and fundraising with too many competing constituents pulling in different directions.

Her salary is within range of all of the elite schools. This is the market working, whether you like it or not.

-- signed faculty who participated in the hiring committee at another elite school

But to keep it post resignation??

And with so many blatant examples of how she plagiarized other people’s work with no attribution!

That didn’t happen. Not like you are characterizing it. Maybe you get your information from shitty sources like Newsmax.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Elite colleges wouldn't be able to get anyone to do the job if they didn't pay this much. This may come as a surprise, but there are not many qualified people (within or outside of academia) banging at the door for this job. It's a mix of politics and fundraising with too many competing constituents pulling in different directions.

Her salary is within range of all of the elite schools. This is the market working, whether you like it or not.

-- signed faculty who participated in the hiring committee at another elite school

But to keep it post resignation??

Yes, normal practice. Similar to CEO's golden parachute. There is a contract involved.

It feels like the right thing for her to do might be to decline the pay and request that the pay go toward scholarships for needy students, no?

No, that would not be the right thing to do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Elite colleges wouldn't be able to get anyone to do the job if they didn't pay this much. This may come as a surprise, but there are not many qualified people (within or outside of academia) banging at the door for this job. It's a mix of politics and fundraising with too many competing constituents pulling in different directions.

Her salary is within range of all of the elite schools. This is the market working, whether you like it or not.

-- signed faculty who participated in the hiring committee at another elite school

But to keep it post resignation??

And with so many blatant examples of how she plagiarized other people’s work with no attribution!

That didn’t happen.

"...Chair Elise Stefanik blasted Harvard for allowing an alleged serial plagiarist to remain on the faculty. 'She's not fit to be a faculty member,' Stefanik told the Post. 'It's unacceptable when you have students at Harvard who would be expelled for plagiarism to allow a faculty member who has nearly 50 examples of plagiarism in their very slim body of academic work. It's absurd and everybody know it. Harvard knows it too...'" -Chair Elise Stefanik

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Elite colleges wouldn't be able to get anyone to do the job if they didn't pay this much. This may come as a surprise, but there are not many qualified people (within or outside of academia) banging at the door for this job. It's a mix of politics and fundraising with too many competing constituents pulling in different directions.

Her salary is within range of all of the elite schools. This is the market working, whether you like it or not.

-- signed faculty who participated in the hiring committee at another elite school

Correction: $900k is the NOT the norm for dean positions at most universities. $1m+ for a president of a major school? That's surprisingly low.

-- signed academic who has been recruited for dean roles

I wasn't referring to dean's salaries. I thought we were discussing her salary as president. Curious--what are you seeing as the typical salary for a President? The hiring data I read said the average at selective schools is in the 1M+ range. I'm not at Harvard or HYPS, so if you say it's low, I believe you.

Are other College Presidents publicly standing behind her?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't kids be kicked out of Harvard for plagiarizing the way she did?

100% absolutely yes.

[Anonymous]

Do the Claudine Fans agree that a student would be disciplined for similar plagiarisms? Is that a fact everyone can agree on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:'How much is enough' pay for College Presidents?

Harvard's Resigning President, Dr. Claudine Gay is going to retain her near $900K Salary even post resignation. She was making $1 million as president, though it's unclear how much of that she'll continue to collect after only six months as the university's top administrator, according to the Post.

Here is the article: https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/claudine-gay-retains-large/2024/01/02/id/1147985/?ns_mail_uid=4634602f-acea-488e-a329-d029b5c696cc&ns_mail_job=DM563211_01032024&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010504wfacid

Would that money be better spent on scholarships for low income students?

Do you whine about a CEO’s salary? That’s what a university president is running.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't kids be kicked out of Harvard for plagiarizing the way she did?

Having worked in academia for 30 years now, I'd love to run some of my former colleague's work through these plagiarizing checkers to see what comes up. The boomer and silent gen "thought leader" types I've worked with over the years took all kinds of liberties and really had no consequences. They aren't black women, so, they are probably won't be targeted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do the Claudine Fans agree that a student would be disciplined for similar plagiarisms? Is that a fact everyone can agree on?

No examples of actual plagiarism (word-for-word copying) were identified, genius. Sloppy citation is not plagiarism.

This is personal revenge crusade for Elise Stefanik after she was removed from Harvard‘s senior advisory committee for being an election denier. https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/12/harvard-removes-elise-stefanik-advisory-commitee-458141

Stefanik’s anti-democracy and anti-American actions are far worse than some sloppy citations in scholarships. But let’s see her academic work from her years at Harvard anyway. I would like to check them for plagiarism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Elite colleges wouldn't be able to get anyone to do the job if they didn't pay this much. This may come as a surprise, but there are not many qualified people (within or outside of academia) banging at the door for this job. It's a mix of politics and fundraising with too many competing constituents pulling in different directions.

Her salary is within range of all of the elite schools. This is the market working, whether you like it or not.

-- signed faculty who participated in the hiring committee at another elite school

But to keep it post resignation??

And with so many blatant examples of how she plagiarized other people’s work with no attribution!

That didn’t happen.

"...Chair Elise Stefanik blasted Harvard for allowing an alleged serial plagiarist to remain on the faculty. 'She's not fit to be a faculty member,' Stefanik told the Post. 'It's unacceptable when you have students at Harvard who would be expelled for plagiarism to allow a faculty member who has nearly 50 examples of plagiarism in their very slim body of academic work. It's absurd and everybody know it. Harvard knows it too...'" -Chair Elise Stefanik

1. Claire Stefanik is an insurrectionist traitor against USA.

2. That very quote from Stefanik has worse of plagiarism than Gay did. Stefanik isn't citing her sources at all. Gay's plagiarism was inconsequential filler phrases and sentences around her quantitative analyses, and not using quotations while still providing an in text citation.

Among all the authors that were plagiarized, only one has expressed concern that that it matters at all, a conservative "anti-woke" activist. Almost all the rest have publicly defended Gay.

None of the people screaming "plagiarism!" have dared to post one example, because they know it's a nothingburger.