“Closed campus” at lunch but no enforcement?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you tell your kid they are not allowed to leave campus. Unbelievable that you can find a way to blame the school for this.

Seriously I can’t believe that if as a parent you care that you can’t figure out how to enforce it. I mean tell them no. If they do it, take aware their source of funds, take the phone, ground them. Whatever.

Taking their phone away for leaving campus is punishing them after the fact. It is not enforcing the school’s supposed closed campus policy.

Again, only the school can enforce that. Parents are not in the building.

We’re talking high schoolers, not two year olds. They’ll get the connection. And parents are not as powerless as you make them out to be.

You keep talking in circles to avoid acknowledging the obvious point that enforcement of the school's closed campus policy rests with the school, not the parents. It defies logic to say people who are not physically in the school building are more responsible to enforce the closed campus policy more than the adults who are in the school building.

But then again, I don't think you possess or prize ration and logic anyway. So this is a moot discussion.

If this is what you choose to egt fired up about you really should consider home school or private. I feel like you have no clue what goes on in a high school. This is small potatoes.

You’re right- it may be small potatoes. But if it is, then why should we accept the state our schools are in? Why is the burden on parents to either go private or homeschool, both of which aren’t an option for most families? You say it as if it’s easy, as if it’s an actual choice for people. We’re active in our school community and are trying to change what we can to improve our schools, but it’s a huge task that feels overwhelming sometimes. Privileged comments like these don’t help.

Literally tell your kid she can't go. Done.

When kids talk back to teachers does that mean that she does as well? No. Just because someone else is breaking a rule doesn't mean you should too. And guess what if she does....its part of growing up. Relax

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you tell your kid they are not allowed to leave campus. Unbelievable that you can find a way to blame the school for this.

Seriously I can’t believe that if as a parent you care that you can’t figure out how to enforce it. I mean tell them no. If they do it, take aware their source of funds, take the phone, ground them. Whatever.

Taking their phone away for leaving campus is punishing them after the fact. It is not enforcing the school’s supposed closed campus policy.

Again, only the school can enforce that. Parents are not in the building.

OP you seem outrageous. Plenty of things in the world that can be blamed on failed leadership. This is failed parenting nothing to do with leadership. Punishing them after the fact as you say should be enough to deter them from doing it again. If it is not then that is your problem.

You must be MCPS admin. You can keep denying MCPS has liability and obligation to uphold and enforce its policies if you want to. MCPS, and we the taxpayers, keep paying out judgements where judges and juries disagree with you and say MCPS has a duty to actually do what it says it will do.

You should quit education. It’s not for you.

[Anonymous]

No one likes a tattletale

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you tell your kid they are not allowed to leave campus. Unbelievable that you can find a way to blame the school for this.

Seriously I can’t believe that if as a parent you care that you can’t figure out how to enforce it. I mean tell them no. If they do it, take aware their source of funds, take the phone, ground them. Whatever.

Taking their phone away for leaving campus is punishing them after the fact. It is not enforcing the school’s supposed closed campus policy.

Again, only the school can enforce that. Parents are not in the building.

OP you seem outrageous. Plenty of things in the world that can be blamed on failed leadership. This is failed parenting nothing to do with leadership. Punishing them after the fact as you say should be enough to deter them from doing it again. If it is not then that is your problem.

You must be MCPS admin. You can keep denying MCPS has liability and obligation to uphold and enforce its policies if you want to. MCPS, and we the taxpayers, keep paying out judgements where judges and juries disagree with you and say MCPS has a duty to actually do what it says it will do.

You should quit education. It’s not for you.

Wrong - just a parent that thinks this is crazy. Also, I am not the only one responding to you. I am beginning to think you are that lady that runs that website that wants MCPS liable for everything so every morning you wake up and think of something new. Turf, closed lunch, etc. I understand MCPS has issues but this is not one of them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you tell your kid they are not allowed to leave campus. Unbelievable that you can find a way to blame the school for this.

Seriously I can’t believe that if as a parent you care that you can’t figure out how to enforce it. I mean tell them no. If they do it, take aware their source of funds, take the phone, ground them. Whatever.

Taking their phone away for leaving campus is punishing them after the fact. It is not enforcing the school’s supposed closed campus policy.

Again, only the school can enforce that. Parents are not in the building.

We’re talking high schoolers, not two year olds. They’ll get the connection. And parents are not as powerless as you make them out to be.

You keep talking in circles to avoid acknowledging the obvious point that enforcement of the school's closed campus policy rests with the school, not the parents. It defies logic to say people who are not physically in the school building are more responsible to enforce the closed campus policy more than the adults who are in the school building.

But then again, I don't think you possess or prize ration and logic anyway. So this is a moot discussion.

If this is what you choose to egt fired up about you really should consider home school or private. I feel like you have no clue what goes on in a high school. This is small potatoes.

You keep minimizing this, even though the very serious criminal and life threatening incidents that have come from kids venturing out during lunch when they’re not supposed to has been shared.

What do you gain from pushing this agenda? Why are you invested in not holding MCPS schools accountable for enforcing its own closed campus policies?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see so many kids around Blair during lunch. Why not just make it an open lunch? What’s the point if it’s not enforced?

This is the crazy thing about MCPS. They want to look like they're doing the right thing, by saying they have closed campus lunches for student safety, but then refuse to invest the necessary resources, protocols and enforcements to make what they say they do on paper actually be true.

I agree with you. If MCPS actually has no intention of ever honoring its closed lunch policy, then they should just drop the farce of claiming to have a closed campus. It's ridiculous.

I don’t know if there is an “MCPS Policy”, as there are schools with open lunch. WJ is wide open, for all grades. They cannot possibly service the student body in the cafeteria as things are now. Can anyone chime in what Blair’s actual policy is?

Poolesville also has open lunch for all grades.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't you tell your kid they are not allowed to leave campus. Unbelievable that you can find a way to blame the school for this.

Seriously I can’t believe that if as a parent you care that you can’t figure out how to enforce it. I mean tell them no. If they do it, take aware their source of funds, take the phone, ground them. Whatever.

Taking their phone away for leaving campus is punishing them after the fact. It is not enforcing the school’s supposed closed campus policy.

Again, only the school can enforce that. Parents are not in the building.

OP you seem outrageous. Plenty of things in the world that can be blamed on failed leadership. This is failed parenting nothing to do with leadership. Punishing them after the fact as you say should be enough to deter them from doing it again. If it is not then that is your problem.

You must be MCPS admin. You can keep denying MCPS has liability and obligation to uphold and enforce its policies if you want to. MCPS, and we the taxpayers, keep paying out judgements where judges and juries disagree with you and say MCPS has a duty to actually do what it says it will do.

You should quit education. It’s not for you.

Wrong - just a parent that thinks this is crazy. Also, I am not the only one responding to you. I am beginning to think you are that lady that runs that website that wants MCPS liable for everything so every morning you wake up and think of something new. Turf, closed lunch, etc. I understand MCPS has issues but this is not one of them.

Tell that to the DoorDash driver who had a gun shoved in her mouth by B-CC kids who were out and about in the community during lunch just a few weeks ago.

You’re in denial and refuse to engage with the real harm and risk that comes from not enforcing this policy. Why you are doing so, only you know.

[Anonymous]

you sound bat S&*% crazy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't you tell your kid they are not allowed to leave campus. Unbelievable that you can find a way to blame the school for this.

Seriously I can’t believe that if as a parent you care that you can’t figure out how to enforce it. I mean tell them no. If they do it, take aware their source of funds, take the phone, ground them. Whatever.

Taking their phone away for leaving campus is punishing them after the fact. It is not enforcing the school’s supposed closed campus policy.

Again, only the school can enforce that. Parents are not in the building.

OP you seem outrageous. Plenty of things in the world that can be blamed on failed leadership. This is failed parenting nothing to do with leadership. Punishing them after the fact as you say should be enough to deter them from doing it again. If it is not then that is your problem.

You must be MCPS admin. You can keep denying MCPS has liability and obligation to uphold and enforce its policies if you want to. MCPS, and we the taxpayers, keep paying out judgements where judges and juries disagree with you and say MCPS has a duty to actually do what it says it will do.

You should quit education. It’s not for you.

Wrong - just a parent that thinks this is crazy. Also, I am not the only one responding to you. I am beginning to think you are that lady that runs that website that wants MCPS liable for everything so every morning you wake up and think of something new. Turf, closed lunch, etc. I understand MCPS has issues but this is not one of them.

Tell that to the DoorDash driver who had a gun shoved in her mouth by B-CC kids who were out and about in the community during lunch just a few weeks ago.

You’re in denial and refuse to engage with the real harm and risk that comes from not enforcing this policy. Why you are doing so, only you know.

So, your theory is that open lunch in Bethesda is why the carjacking happened in Wheaton?

That's just silly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't you tell your kid they are not allowed to leave campus. Unbelievable that you can find a way to blame the school for this.

Seriously I can’t believe that if as a parent you care that you can’t figure out how to enforce it. I mean tell them no. If they do it, take aware their source of funds, take the phone, ground them. Whatever.

Taking their phone away for leaving campus is punishing them after the fact. It is not enforcing the school’s supposed closed campus policy.

Again, only the school can enforce that. Parents are not in the building.

OP you seem outrageous. Plenty of things in the world that can be blamed on failed leadership. This is failed parenting nothing to do with leadership. Punishing them after the fact as you say should be enough to deter them from doing it again. If it is not then that is your problem.

You must be MCPS admin. You can keep denying MCPS has liability and obligation to uphold and enforce its policies if you want to. MCPS, and we the taxpayers, keep paying out judgements where judges and juries disagree with you and say MCPS has a duty to actually do what it says it will do.

You should quit education. It’s not for you.

Wrong - just a parent that thinks this is crazy. Also, I am not the only one responding to you. I am beginning to think you are that lady that runs that website that wants MCPS liable for everything so every morning you wake up and think of something new. Turf, closed lunch, etc. I understand MCPS has issues but this is not one of them.

Tell that to the DoorDash driver who had a gun shoved in her mouth by B-CC kids who were out and about in the community during lunch just a few weeks ago.

You’re in denial and refuse to engage with the real harm and risk that comes from not enforcing this policy. Why you are doing so, only you know.

So, your theory is that open lunch in Bethesda is why the carjacking happened in Wheaton?

That's just silly.

Open lunch IS why kids who otherwise would have been in the school building and not available to roam the streets and assault someone were able to do so. Yes. That is not a leap in logic. Which is why revoking open lunch privileges is a disciplinary measures schools take because it’s a privilege based on trust and meeting expectations.

If B-CC had a closed lunch policy that the school actively monitored and enforced, those kids would not have been able to do what they did when they did it. There is no doubt about that.

If you followed the conversation around juvenile crime, one of the main things contributing to the increase in juvenile crime is kids not being in school when they should be. But you don’t care about that because you don’t care about the youth or the community.

You just want to absolve MCPS of any and all responsibility for the care and wellbeing of students while they are in the school building for reasons known only to you.

[Anonymous]

Again you sound crazy but I will agree that kids being out of school is exactly why there is a rise in crime. When schools shut down in 2020 there were kids who were barely hanging on then. Those kids did not come back ....EVER. They are the ones robbing stores, carjacking and joyriding now at the age of 16 17 etc. Direct result of shutting down schools.

Open lunch though has nothing to do with this. A kid can skip a class and get out anyway. You haven't brought up your daughter in any of your posts in a while. Does she even exist or are you really the lady from that website that blames MCPS for everything?

[Anonymous]

There is no MCPS closed lunch policy. Some schools have open lunch and have had open lunch for many generations. Other schools became closed campus when they moved or reopened. There are pros and cons to both open and closed campuses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't you tell your kid they are not allowed to leave campus. Unbelievable that you can find a way to blame the school for this.

Seriously I can’t believe that if as a parent you care that you can’t figure out how to enforce it. I mean tell them no. If they do it, take aware their source of funds, take the phone, ground them. Whatever.

Taking their phone away for leaving campus is punishing them after the fact. It is not enforcing the school’s supposed closed campus policy.

Again, only the school can enforce that. Parents are not in the building.

OP you seem outrageous. Plenty of things in the world that can be blamed on failed leadership. This is failed parenting nothing to do with leadership. Punishing them after the fact as you say should be enough to deter them from doing it again. If it is not then that is your problem.

You must be MCPS admin. You can keep denying MCPS has liability and obligation to uphold and enforce its policies if you want to. MCPS, and we the taxpayers, keep paying out judgements where judges and juries disagree with you and say MCPS has a duty to actually do what it says it will do.

You should quit education. It’s not for you.

Wrong - just a parent that thinks this is crazy. Also, I am not the only one responding to you. I am beginning to think you are that lady that runs that website that wants MCPS liable for everything so every morning you wake up and think of something new. Turf, closed lunch, etc. I understand MCPS has issues but this is not one of them.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see so many kids around Blair during lunch. Why not just make it an open lunch? What’s the point if it’s not enforced?

This is the crazy thing about MCPS. They want to look like they're doing the right thing, by saying they have closed campus lunches for student safety, but then refuse to invest the necessary resources, protocols and enforcements to make what they say they do on paper actually be true.

I agree with you. If MCPS actually has no intention of ever honoring its closed lunch policy, then they should just drop the farce of claiming to have a closed campus. It's ridiculous.

I don’t know if there is an “MCPS Policy”, as there are schools with open lunch. WJ is wide open, for all grades. They cannot possibly service the student body in the cafeteria as things are now. Can anyone chime in what Blair’s actual policy is?

Poolesville also has open lunch for all grades.

But that's probably because it's 20+ miles to the closest fast-food that nobody would use it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why don't you tell your kid they are not allowed to leave campus. Unbelievable that you can find a way to blame the school for this.

Seriously I can’t believe that if as a parent you care that you can’t figure out how to enforce it. I mean tell them no. If they do it, take aware their source of funds, take the phone, ground them. Whatever.

Taking their phone away for leaving campus is punishing them after the fact. It is not enforcing the school’s supposed closed campus policy.

Again, only the school can enforce that. Parents are not in the building.

OP you seem outrageous. Plenty of things in the world that can be blamed on failed leadership. This is failed parenting nothing to do with leadership. Punishing them after the fact as you say should be enough to deter them from doing it again. If it is not then that is your problem.

You must be MCPS admin. You can keep denying MCPS has liability and obligation to uphold and enforce its policies if you want to. MCPS, and we the taxpayers, keep paying out judgements where judges and juries disagree with you and say MCPS has a duty to actually do what it says it will do.

You should quit education. It’s not for you.

Wrong - just a parent that thinks this is crazy. Also, I am not the only one responding to you. I am beginning to think you are that lady that runs that website that wants MCPS liable for everything so every morning you wake up and think of something new. Turf, closed lunch, etc. I understand MCPS has issues but this is not one of them.

Why have any rules if you don't enforce them? Wait, MCPS went to very few rules and then wonders why kids are acting as they are. Same with parents. It's a safety issue. Some schools have easily accessible restaurants, others don't. If a kid gets hit by a car, during school hours, MCPS should be liable.