“Closed campus” at lunch but no enforcement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why don't you tell your kid they are not allowed to leave campus. Unbelievable that you can find a way to blame the school for this.

Seriously I can’t believe that if as a parent you care that you can’t figure out how to enforce it. I mean tell them no. If they do it, take aware their source of funds, take the phone, ground them. Whatever.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you tell your kid they are not allowed to leave campus. Unbelievable that you can find a way to blame the school for this.

Seriously I can’t believe that if as a parent you care that you can’t figure out how to enforce it. I mean tell them no. If they do it, take aware their source of funds, take the phone, ground them. Whatever.

Taking their phone away for leaving campus is punishing them after the fact. It is not enforcing the school’s supposed closed campus policy.

Again, only the school can enforce that. Parents are not in the building.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, MCPS claims their campuses are closed but they have no meaningful way of enforcing it.

Which school does your DD go to? Kennedy, Wheaton or Quince Orchard? I know those three schools in particular are famous for the local McDonald's being the spot that kids go to during lunch even though they're not supposed to. The McDonald's on Randolph Rd. between Wheaton and Kennedy has become such a hot spot for bad behavior that police installed those portable cameras with the lights to enhance surveillance. It's sad.

QO doesn’t claim to have closed lunch. It’s open for juniors and seniors. No one would take the bus from QO to McDonalds. McDonald’s is closer than any bus stop.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you tell your kid they are not allowed to leave campus. Unbelievable that you can find a way to blame the school for this.

Seriously I can’t believe that if as a parent you care that you can’t figure out how to enforce it. I mean tell them no. If they do it, take aware their source of funds, take the phone, ground them. Whatever.

Taking their phone away for leaving campus is punishing them after the fact. It is not enforcing the school’s supposed closed campus policy.

Again, only the school can enforce that. Parents are not in the building.

We’re talking high schoolers, not two year olds. They’ll get the connection. And parents are not as powerless as you make them out to be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you tell your kid they are not allowed to leave campus. Unbelievable that you can find a way to blame the school for this.

Seriously I can’t believe that if as a parent you care that you can’t figure out how to enforce it. I mean tell them no. If they do it, take aware their source of funds, take the phone, ground them. Whatever.

Taking their phone away for leaving campus is punishing them after the fact. It is not enforcing the school’s supposed closed campus policy.

Again, only the school can enforce that. Parents are not in the building.

We’re talking high schoolers, not two year olds. They’ll get the connection. And parents are not as powerless as you make them out to be.

You keep talking in circles to avoid acknowledging the obvious point that enforcement of the school's closed campus policy rests with the school, not the parents. It defies logic to say people who are not physically in the school building are more responsible to enforce the closed campus policy more than the adults who are in the school building.

But then again, I don't think you possess or prize ration and logic anyway. So this is a moot discussion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you tell your kid they are not allowed to leave campus. Unbelievable that you can find a way to blame the school for this.

Seriously I can’t believe that if as a parent you care that you can’t figure out how to enforce it. I mean tell them no. If they do it, take aware their source of funds, take the phone, ground them. Whatever.

Taking their phone away for leaving campus is punishing them after the fact. It is not enforcing the school’s supposed closed campus policy.

Again, only the school can enforce that. Parents are not in the building.

We’re talking high schoolers, not two year olds. They’ll get the connection. And parents are not as powerless as you make them out to be.

You keep talking in circles to avoid acknowledging the obvious point that enforcement of the school's closed campus policy rests with the school, not the parents. It defies logic to say people who are not physically in the school building are more responsible to enforce the closed campus policy more than the adults who are in the school building.

But then again, I don't think you possess or prize ration and logic anyway. So this is a moot discussion.

It defies logic to think that 5 security guards are somehow going to stop a couple of hundred kids leaving the building at lunch or that the school can impose some sort of meaningful penalty for leaving that the parents won't be all up in arms about or that somehow this is the biggest issue that the school needs to resolve.

[Anonymous]

My freshman leaves at least 3x a week and I don’t care. They eat at chipotle, panera, moby dicks, or Starbucks. All better than the over packed cafeteria.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My freshman leaves at least 3x a week and I don’t care. They eat at chipotle, panera, moby dicks, or Starbucks. All better than the over packed cafeteria.

Not everyone can afford that. Your kid is fortunate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My freshman leaves at least 3x a week and I don’t care. They eat at chipotle, panera, moby dicks, or Starbucks. All better than the over packed cafeteria.

Not everyone can afford that. Your kid is fortunate.

Ok but it’s good for many kids mental health to NOT be in the cafeteria and get outside

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you tell your kid they are not allowed to leave campus. Unbelievable that you can find a way to blame the school for this.

Seriously I can’t believe that if as a parent you care that you can’t figure out how to enforce it. I mean tell them no. If they do it, take aware their source of funds, take the phone, ground them. Whatever.

Taking their phone away for leaving campus is punishing them after the fact. It is not enforcing the school’s supposed closed campus policy.

Again, only the school can enforce that. Parents are not in the building.

We’re talking high schoolers, not two year olds. They’ll get the connection. And parents are not as powerless as you make them out to be.

You keep talking in circles to avoid acknowledging the obvious point that enforcement of the school's closed campus policy rests with the school, not the parents. It defies logic to say people who are not physically in the school building are more responsible to enforce the closed campus policy more than the adults who are in the school building.

But then again, I don't think you possess or prize ration and logic anyway. So this is a moot discussion.

It defies logic to think that 5 security guards are somehow going to stop a couple of hundred kids leaving the building at lunch or that the school can impose some sort of meaningful penalty for leaving that the parents won't be all up in arms about or that somehow this is the biggest issue that the school needs to resolve.

1. If staffing is the problem, ask for more staffing during budget requests. Monifa had no problem asking the county for millions more in funding and adding more security staff would probably get more public support than wasting millions of dollars on "Leader in Me" curriculum drivel that does nothing to improve SEL for kids. Same goes for the RJ coaches. But MCPS would never be bold enough to say they need more security staff because then they'd have to admit that their security systems are and have been insufficient for a long time.

2. You have a lot of nerve to act like kids leaving the campus during lunch is not a serious issue. A Quince Orchard child overdosed on drugs at a McDonald's bathroom when he left the school premises when he wasn't supposed to. A kid was assaulted and robbed at McDonald's during lunch by Kennedy students who were then caught with ghost guns and a bag of fentanyl pills leaving the school campus. And more recently, 5 teens from B-CC violently carjacked a woman and went joyriding and terrorized the community when they were out during lunch. Either you don't know of these incidents that I'm talking about or you do and you don't care because you're soulless and are loyal to the broken status quo of MCPS, likely because you're an employee who doesn't want to change things. If that's the case, you should just do everyone a favor quit education. You don't have the heart for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My freshman leaves at least 3x a week and I don’t care. They eat at chipotle, panera, moby dicks, or Starbucks. All better than the over packed cafeteria.

Parents like you are part of the problem. You're selfish, immature and entitled.

[Anonymous]

I see so many kids around Blair during lunch. Why not just make it an open lunch? What’s the point if it’s not enforced?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My freshman leaves at least 3x a week and I don’t care. They eat at chipotle, panera, moby dicks, or Starbucks. All better than the over packed cafeteria.

Not everyone can afford that. Your kid is fortunate.

The word I'd use is spoiled, not fortunate. But hey, that's just me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see so many kids around Blair during lunch. Why not just make it an open lunch? What’s the point if it’s not enforced?

This is the crazy thing about MCPS. They want to look like they're doing the right thing, by saying they have closed campus lunches for student safety, but then refuse to invest the necessary resources, protocols and enforcements to make what they say they do on paper actually be true.

I agree with you. If MCPS actually has no intention of ever honoring its closed lunch policy, then they should just drop the farce of claiming to have a closed campus. It's ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DD is a freshman and said several of her friends went to McDonald’s for lunch. They left school (and claimed a security guard even held the door open for them!) got on the public bus and went to lunch. Meanwhile, the principal routinely talks about how the HS is a closed campus at lunch and any student that arrives back from lunch period late gets their ID scanned and a call hone! Don’t tell me the campus is “closed” if you’re not enforcing it!

I hope you have made your expectations of your daughter's behavior clear to her.