Stop with the group projects!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not only does DD need to manage her own work but she needs to manage three other students in her AP class who have no interest in doing the actual work. At what point does she go to the teacher? Or her counselor?

It's mostly a reflection on her inability to work with others. This is a life skill and it's something she needs to learn.

The slackers need to learn that not contributing will only get you so far. Then, in the real world, you get fired.

Oh if only this were true.

[Anonymous]

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It would be hilarious if the “slackers” will get a better grade though. Maybe they don’t do the group project because they focus on individual homework and preparation for the tests. I’ve seen it happening!

That’s nothing to be proud off. They are parasites who’s grade percentage from the group project they stole credit from the kids who did the actual work.

Their final grade included the group project

Not sure they “stole” the credit if it was a group project, unless the grades are separate for each portion and they claim to do someone else’s work. If it’s a grade for the entire group and they were part of it, I think it’s fine.

Are they actually part of the group if they did nothing? If they did 0% of the project, they actually are taking credit for someone else’s work.

It would be good if teachers would group the slackers together so other students can actually have the intended benefit of group work - collaboration with others who contribute to the project.

Now you’re the one not giving credit. There must have been brainstorming discussions, email exchanges, planning etc. you need to be less uptight about this, the teacher assigned the group, DD just has to deal with it. You never say what the AP class assignment was, how it was divided, just that DD does absolutely everything and the other kids never took part in anything. It’s not very believable.

Not sure what the big deal is, plenty of times I was part of a lab group in HS or college and did all the work because the classmates were not that bright or that interested. They’d do their best to record the data and later pay their dues in beer and cigarettes and call it even. You don’t sound very fun to be around at a party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not only does DD need to manage her own work but she needs to manage three other students in her AP class who have no interest in doing the actual work. At what point does she go to the teacher? Or her counselor?

It's mostly a reflection on her inability to work with others. This is a life skill and it's something she needs to learn.

The slackers need to learn that not contributing will only get you so far. Then, in the real world, you get fired.

Or in real world there are people that don’t work well with others, try to take all the credit for themselves, badmouth others to their bosses, and everyone hates working with them. The first mistake is made nobody is covering for them and they get burned really bad. Usually they are the first to get fired.

I think that’s a more important life lesson to learn instead of the silly class assignment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not only does DD need to manage her own work but she needs to manage three other students in her AP class who have no interest in doing the actual work. At what point does she go to the teacher? Or her counselor?

It's mostly a reflection on her inability to work with others. This is a life skill and it's something she needs to learn.

The slackers need to learn that not contributing will only get you so far. Then, in the real world, you get fired.

Oh if only this were true.

They do in my field. Too risky to keep slackers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It would be hilarious if the “slackers” will get a better grade though. Maybe they don’t do the group project because they focus on individual homework and preparation for the tests. I’ve seen it happening!

That’s nothing to be proud off. They are parasites who’s grade percentage from the group project they stole credit from the kids who did the actual work.

Their final grade included the group project

Not sure they “stole” the credit if it was a group project, unless the grades are separate for each portion and they claim to do someone else’s work. If it’s a grade for the entire group and they were part of it, I think it’s fine.

Are they actually part of the group if they did nothing? If they did 0% of the project, they actually are taking credit for someone else’s work.

It would be good if teachers would group the slackers together so other students can actually have the intended benefit of group work - collaboration with others who contribute to the project.

Now you’re the one not giving credit. There must have been brainstorming discussions, email exchanges, planning etc. you need to be less uptight about this, the teacher assigned the group, DD just has to deal with it. You never say what the AP class assignment was, how it was divided, just that DD does absolutely everything and the other kids never took part in anything. It’s not very believable.

Not sure what the big deal is, plenty of times I was part of a lab group in HS or college and did all the work because the classmates were not that bright or that interested. They’d do their best to record the data and later pay their dues in beer and cigarettes and call it even. You don’t sound very fun to be around at a party.

I’m also not the OP (and never said I was).

How do you know there was any group work done as you describe?

You say there were times you did all the work. Would you say that is believable? Not very believable? Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It would be hilarious if the “slackers” will get a better grade though. Maybe they don’t do the group project because they focus on individual homework and preparation for the tests. I’ve seen it happening!

That’s nothing to be proud off. They are parasites who’s grade percentage from the group project they stole credit from the kids who did the actual work.

Their final grade included the group project

Not sure they “stole” the credit if it was a group project, unless the grades are separate for each portion and they claim to do someone else’s work. If it’s a grade for the entire group and they were part of it, I think it’s fine.

Are they actually part of the group if they did nothing? If they did 0% of the project, they actually are taking credit for someone else’s work.

It would be good if teachers would group the slackers together so other students can actually have the intended benefit of group work - collaboration with others who contribute to the project.

Now you’re the one not giving credit. There must have been brainstorming discussions, email exchanges, planning etc. you need to be less uptight about this, the teacher assigned the group, DD just has to deal with it. You never say what the AP class assignment was, how it was divided, just that DD does absolutely everything and the other kids never took part in anything. It’s not very believable.

Not sure what the big deal is, plenty of times I was part of a lab group in HS or college and did all the work because the classmates were not that bright or that interested. They’d do their best to record the data and later pay their dues in beer and cigarettes and call it even. You don’t sound very fun to be around at a party.

I’m also not the OP (and never said I was).

How do you know there was any group work done as you describe?

You say there were times you did all the work. Would you say that is believable? Not very believable? Why?

When the teachers assigns the groups there’s some discussion in class. The OP said her DD did some coordinating, so clearly there was division of work and assignment of tasks. It seems to me the kids were part of the group. It’s possible they didn’t pull their weight, but that’s not what the assignment is about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It would be hilarious if the “slackers” will get a better grade though. Maybe they don’t do the group project because they focus on individual homework and preparation for the tests. I’ve seen it happening!

That’s nothing to be proud off. They are parasites who’s grade percentage from the group project they stole credit from the kids who did the actual work.

Their final grade included the group project

Not sure they “stole” the credit if it was a group project, unless the grades are separate for each portion and they claim to do someone else’s work. If it’s a grade for the entire group and they were part of it, I think it’s fine.

Are they actually part of the group if they did nothing? If they did 0% of the project, they actually are taking credit for someone else’s work.

It would be good if teachers would group the slackers together so other students can actually have the intended benefit of group work - collaboration with others who contribute to the project.

Now you’re the one not giving credit. There must have been brainstorming discussions, email exchanges, planning etc. you need to be less uptight about this, the teacher assigned the group, DD just has to deal with it. You never say what the AP class assignment was, how it was divided, just that DD does absolutely everything and the other kids never took part in anything. It’s not very believable.

Not sure what the big deal is, plenty of times I was part of a lab group in HS or college and did all the work because the classmates were not that bright or that interested. They’d do their best to record the data and later pay their dues in beer and cigarettes and call it even. You don’t sound very fun to be around at a party.

I’m also not the OP (and never said I was).

How do you know there was any group work done as you describe?

You say there were times you did all the work. Would you say that is believable? Not very believable? Why?

When the teachers assigns the groups there’s some discussion in class. The OP said her DD did some coordinating, so clearly there was division of work and assignment of tasks. It seems to me the kids were part of the group. It’s possible they didn’t pull their weight, but that’s not what the assignment is about.

Not very believable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It would be hilarious if the “slackers” will get a better grade though. Maybe they don’t do the group project because they focus on individual homework and preparation for the tests. I’ve seen it happening!

That’s nothing to be proud off. They are parasites who’s grade percentage from the group project they stole credit from the kids who did the actual work.

Their final grade included the group project

Not sure they “stole” the credit if it was a group project, unless the grades are separate for each portion and they claim to do someone else’s work. If it’s a grade for the entire group and they were part of it, I think it’s fine.

Are they actually part of the group if they did nothing? If they did 0% of the project, they actually are taking credit for someone else’s work.

It would be good if teachers would group the slackers together so other students can actually have the intended benefit of group work - collaboration with others who contribute to the project.

Now you’re the one not giving credit. There must have been brainstorming discussions, email exchanges, planning etc. you need to be less uptight about this, the teacher assigned the group, DD just has to deal with it. You never say what the AP class assignment was, how it was divided, just that DD does absolutely everything and the other kids never took part in anything. It’s not very believable.

Not sure what the big deal is, plenty of times I was part of a lab group in HS or college and did all the work because the classmates were not that bright or that interested. They’d do their best to record the data and later pay their dues in beer and cigarettes and call it even. You don’t sound very fun to be around at a party.

I’m also not the OP (and never said I was).

How do you know there was any group work done as you describe?

You say there were times you did all the work. Would you say that is believable? Not very believable? Why?

When the teachers assigns the groups there’s some discussion in class. The OP said her DD did some coordinating, so clearly there was division of work and assignment of tasks. It seems to me the kids were part of the group. It’s possible they didn’t pull their weight, but that’s not what the assignment is about.

Not very believable.

I know you are not very bright, but this is what OP said: “she needs to manage three other students”. That implies there’s some coordination between them.

[Anonymous]

Sure, at the beginning all the kids in the group may take on a section of the task. But, talk is cheap. When the deadline approaches the lame excuses and feet dragging get to the extent that the hard workers realise that if they don’t do the work then it won’t get done and they get a bad grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It would be hilarious if the “slackers” will get a better grade though. Maybe they don’t do the group project because they focus on individual homework and preparation for the tests. I’ve seen it happening!

That’s nothing to be proud off. They are parasites who’s grade percentage from the group project they stole credit from the kids who did the actual work.

Their final grade included the group project

Not sure they “stole” the credit if it was a group project, unless the grades are separate for each portion and they claim to do someone else’s work. If it’s a grade for the entire group and they were part of it, I think it’s fine.

Are they actually part of the group if they did nothing? If they did 0% of the project, they actually are taking credit for someone else’s work.

It would be good if teachers would group the slackers together so other students can actually have the intended benefit of group work - collaboration with others who contribute to the project.

Now you’re the one not giving credit. There must have been brainstorming discussions, email exchanges, planning etc. you need to be less uptight about this, the teacher assigned the group, DD just has to deal with it. You never say what the AP class assignment was, how it was divided, just that DD does absolutely everything and the other kids never took part in anything. It’s not very believable.

Not sure what the big deal is, plenty of times I was part of a lab group in HS or college and did all the work because the classmates were not that bright or that interested. They’d do their best to record the data and later pay their dues in beer and cigarettes and call it even. You don’t sound very fun to be around at a party.

Fortunately middle school and not high school, but DD just got an F on a group project because she and her partner decided to divide slides in half. She spent hours on her half, he turned in nothing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not only does DD need to manage her own work but she needs to manage three other students in her AP class who have no interest in doing the actual work. At what point does she go to the teacher? Or her counselor?

Don’t go to the teacher to complain unless you want to turn your DD into a social outcast. Groups assignments are a joke anyways and the teacher knows who’s doing the work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It would be hilarious if the “slackers” will get a better grade though. Maybe they don’t do the group project because they focus on individual homework and preparation for the tests. I’ve seen it happening!

That’s nothing to be proud off. They are parasites who’s grade percentage from the group project they stole credit from the kids who did the actual work.

Their final grade included the group project

Not sure they “stole” the credit if it was a group project, unless the grades are separate for each portion and they claim to do someone else’s work. If it’s a grade for the entire group and they were part of it, I think it’s fine.

Are they actually part of the group if they did nothing? If they did 0% of the project, they actually are taking credit for someone else’s work.

It would be good if teachers would group the slackers together so other students can actually have the intended benefit of group work - collaboration with others who contribute to the project.

Now you’re the one not giving credit. There must have been brainstorming discussions, email exchanges, planning etc. you need to be less uptight about this, the teacher assigned the group, DD just has to deal with it. You never say what the AP class assignment was, how it was divided, just that DD does absolutely everything and the other kids never took part in anything. It’s not very believable.

Not sure what the big deal is, plenty of times I was part of a lab group in HS or college and did all the work because the classmates were not that bright or that interested. They’d do their best to record the data and later pay their dues in beer and cigarettes and call it even. You don’t sound very fun to be around at a party.

Fortunately middle school and not high school, but DD just got an F on a group project because she and her partner decided to divide slides in half. She spent hours on her half, he turned in nothing

That never happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It would be hilarious if the “slackers” will get a better grade though. Maybe they don’t do the group project because they focus on individual homework and preparation for the tests. I’ve seen it happening!

That’s nothing to be proud off. They are parasites who’s grade percentage from the group project they stole credit from the kids who did the actual work.

Their final grade included the group project

Not sure they “stole” the credit if it was a group project, unless the grades are separate for each portion and they claim to do someone else’s work. If it’s a grade for the entire group and they were part of it, I think it’s fine.

Are they actually part of the group if they did nothing? If they did 0% of the project, they actually are taking credit for someone else’s work.

It would be good if teachers would group the slackers together so other students can actually have the intended benefit of group work - collaboration with others who contribute to the project.

Now you’re the one not giving credit. There must have been brainstorming discussions, email exchanges, planning etc. you need to be less uptight about this, the teacher assigned the group, DD just has to deal with it. You never say what the AP class assignment was, how it was divided, just that DD does absolutely everything and the other kids never took part in anything. It’s not very believable.

Not sure what the big deal is, plenty of times I was part of a lab group in HS or college and did all the work because the classmates were not that bright or that interested. They’d do their best to record the data and later pay their dues in beer and cigarettes and call it even. You don’t sound very fun to be around at a party.

Fortunately middle school and not high school, but DD just got an F on a group project because she and her partner decided to divide slides in half. She spent hours on her half, he turned in nothing

That never happened.

I think you are looking for the antiwork sub on Reddit. That’s where the grown up slackers lurk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It would be hilarious if the “slackers” will get a better grade though. Maybe they don’t do the group project because they focus on individual homework and preparation for the tests. I’ve seen it happening!

That’s nothing to be proud off. They are parasites who’s grade percentage from the group project they stole credit from the kids who did the actual work.

Their final grade included the group project

Not sure they “stole” the credit if it was a group project, unless the grades are separate for each portion and they claim to do someone else’s work. If it’s a grade for the entire group and they were part of it, I think it’s fine.

Are they actually part of the group if they did nothing? If they did 0% of the project, they actually are taking credit for someone else’s work.

It would be good if teachers would group the slackers together so other students can actually have the intended benefit of group work - collaboration with others who contribute to the project.

Now you’re the one not giving credit. There must have been brainstorming discussions, email exchanges, planning etc. you need to be less uptight about this, the teacher assigned the group, DD just has to deal with it. You never say what the AP class assignment was, how it was divided, just that DD does absolutely everything and the other kids never took part in anything. It’s not very believable.

Not sure what the big deal is, plenty of times I was part of a lab group in HS or college and did all the work because the classmates were not that bright or that interested. They’d do their best to record the data and later pay their dues in beer and cigarettes and call it even. You don’t sound very fun to be around at a party.

Fortunately middle school and not high school, but DD just got an F on a group project because she and her partner decided to divide slides in half. She spent hours on her half, he turned in nothing

That never happened.

I think you are looking for the antiwork sub on Reddit. That’s where the grown up slackers lurk.

Either you lie or you’re being lied to by your child and passing along the lie.

With the grade inflation of B average in middle school, there simply aren’t F grades given anymore unless you don’t turn in the assignment and even then you can get a gazzilion extensions and submissions. You only get F if you don’t submit anything. Consider the possibility that DD didn’t submit anything and lies about it. Even for a half incomplete group project must likely you’ll get a B. Teachers know who is doing the work the typically won’t punish good students for having crappy group mates.

Tbh you just sound like the OP trying to concoct some stories that would put her story in a more favorable view when the response on the thread has been mostly negative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It would be hilarious if the “slackers” will get a better grade though. Maybe they don’t do the group project because they focus on individual homework and preparation for the tests. I’ve seen it happening!

That’s nothing to be proud off. They are parasites who’s grade percentage from the group project they stole credit from the kids who did the actual work.

Their final grade included the group project

Not sure they “stole” the credit if it was a group project, unless the grades are separate for each portion and they claim to do someone else’s work. If it’s a grade for the entire group and they were part of it, I think it’s fine.

Are they actually part of the group if they did nothing? If they did 0% of the project, they actually are taking credit for someone else’s work.

It would be good if teachers would group the slackers together so other students can actually have the intended benefit of group work - collaboration with others who contribute to the project.

Now you’re the one not giving credit. There must have been brainstorming discussions, email exchanges, planning etc. you need to be less uptight about this, the teacher assigned the group, DD just has to deal with it. You never say what the AP class assignment was, how it was divided, just that DD does absolutely everything and the other kids never took part in anything. It’s not very believable.

Not sure what the big deal is, plenty of times I was part of a lab group in HS or college and did all the work because the classmates were not that bright or that interested. They’d do their best to record the data and later pay their dues in beer and cigarettes and call it even. You don’t sound very fun to be around at a party.

Fortunately middle school and not high school, but DD just got an F on a group project because she and her partner decided to divide slides in half. She spent hours on her half, he turned in nothing

That never happened.

I think you are looking for the antiwork sub on Reddit. That’s where the grown up slackers lurk.

Either you lie or you’re being lied to by your child and passing along the lie.

With the grade inflation of B average in middle school, there simply aren’t F grades given anymore unless you don’t turn in the assignment and even then you can get a gazzilion extensions and submissions. You only get F if you don’t submit anything. Consider the possibility that DD didn’t submit anything and lies about it. Even for a half incomplete group project must likely you’ll get a B. Teachers know who is doing the work the typically won’t punish good students for having crappy group mates.

Tbh you just sound like the OP trying to concoct some stories that would put her story in a more favorable view when the response on the thread has been mostly negative.

When there are 50 slides and 25 are blank you get an F. I know my kid did her part because she was working on it all weekend. I know she was worried about this last night because his slides were still blanks