What is the point of a Nanny?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On a macro level if a women or man hires a nanny so she or he can go to an office job what is point?

Why not just let Nanny do the office job and you watch your own kids?

OMG. I literally laughed out loud! Thank you! It makes me feel good to see how little some people understand about other people's ambition and drive. You do you. Clearly a nanny is not in your future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On a macro level if a women or man hires a nanny so she or he can go to an office job what is point?

Why not just let Nanny do the office job and you watch your own kids?

A nanny is for when your job salary exceeds nanny salary. And a nanny is hands down better than daycare. Not that complicated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone wants to be around young children every day.
It doesn’t mean you’re not a good parent. If you don’t enjoy parks, playing with blocks, playing with dolls etc, why not hire someone who does.
Also, if you’re making good money that’s a lot to give up lifestyle, extras etc.

Of course you're a bad parent if you don't want to spend time with your children!

Stop kidding yourself that "quality time" of an hour a day is all the time your children need from you.

No one has said this to a man, ever.

Not true. I definitely judge men to be a bad father if they only spend an hour a day with their kids, especially if that's all they want to spend with them.

It might be true that people don't say it to a man because there might be the fear that such criticism would have a negative rather than a positive effect and the children would suffer more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BTW vast majority of people say Nanny in DC but they don’t pay Nanny wages.

$100,000 a year with full benefits is bare minimum.

Gloria Richards is a famous Nanny and she charges $167 an hour. But $100k is going rate.

Sound right as back in 1996 my cousin married a nanny who worked for hedge fund guy and she was making $40k a year, free room and board, full benefits. They gave her a $10,000 wedding gift check when she got married. Even used their Hampton house for free if she took vacation.

In NYC and San Fran in 2023 going rate is $150,000 to $220,000 for a nanny.

Real Nannies pass the Nanny Association Exam, speak multiple languages. In case of my cousins wife she had a Nursing Degree. And was a certified newborn care specialist.

And in Manhattan even with 200k a year the nanny gets free room and board and food stipend.

Vast majority DC parents have an illegal or a women they are taking advantage of.

If a real Nanny a person would need to earn 500k or more to make it worth while.

Correct. Most people are not paying for nor can they afford a professional Nanny.

They have a personal child care provider/consistent long term babysitter. Which is totally fine! And more than what most people can afford!

However, the issues with consistency, early childhood education, basic professionalism - like showing up to work on time - do.not.happen. with a true professional Nanny. It’s legitimately part of the service you’re paying for.

But tbh, it’s generally only UHNW families that can afford/pay for that kind of service…the same people who pay for elite boarding school and have multiple household staff. Nanny cooking or cleaning isn’t an issue because there is a chef and housekeeper, not a person that comes by a couple times a week to do those tasks but staff that are full time.

It’s less prestigious to say babysitter, so people say nanny, but this poster is correct, it really doesn’t seem like these are professional Nannies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BTW vast majority of people say Nanny in DC but they don’t pay Nanny wages.

$100,000 a year with full benefits is bare minimum.

Gloria Richards is a famous Nanny and she charges $167 an hour. But $100k is going rate.

Sound right as back in 1996 my cousin married a nanny who worked for hedge fund guy and she was making $40k a year, free room and board, full benefits. They gave her a $10,000 wedding gift check when she got married. Even used their Hampton house for free if she took vacation.

In NYC and San Fran in 2023 going rate is $150,000 to $220,000 for a nanny.

Real Nannies pass the Nanny Association Exam, speak multiple languages. In case of my cousins wife she had a Nursing Degree. And was a certified newborn care specialist.

And in Manhattan even with 200k a year the nanny gets free room and board and food stipend.

Vast majority DC parents have an illegal or a women they are taking advantage of.

If a real Nanny a person would need to earn 500k or more to make it worth while.

Correct. Most people are not paying for nor can they afford a professional Nanny.

They have a personal child care provider/consistent long term babysitter. Which is totally fine! And more than what most people can afford!

However, the issues with consistency, early childhood education, basic professionalism - like showing up to work on time - do.not.happen. with a true professional Nanny. It’s legitimately part of the service you’re paying for.

But tbh, it’s generally only UHNW families that can afford/pay for that kind of service…the same people who pay for elite boarding school and have multiple household staff. Nanny cooking or cleaning isn’t an issue because there is a chef and housekeeper, not a person that comes by a couple times a week to do those tasks but staff that are full time.

It’s less prestigious to say babysitter, so people say nanny, but this poster is correct, it really doesn’t seem like these are professional Nannies.

Lol. My eyes are rolling so hard. It’s not like being a nanny is a licensed profession. Literally any person can call themselves a nanny. It’s not like being a doctor, no matter how badly you want to think there’s some distinction between “professional nanny” and a “long term babysitter”. They are the same thing. Sure, some families can afford additional qualifications and choose to hire someone with that background. Good on them.

But things like showing up on time and being consistent don’t require speaking multiple languages or having a degree.

My nanny of 10 years speaks one language (Spanish) and her English is not awesome. She has an 8th grade education and no special training other than raising her own 4 children. She’s never been late or unreliable, ever. She has become family to us and I trust her more than DH haha.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BTW vast majority of people say Nanny in DC but they don’t pay Nanny wages.

$100,000 a year with full benefits is bare minimum.

Gloria Richards is a famous Nanny and she charges $167 an hour. But $100k is going rate.

Sound right as back in 1996 my cousin married a nanny who worked for hedge fund guy and she was making $40k a year, free room and board, full benefits. They gave her a $10,000 wedding gift check when she got married. Even used their Hampton house for free if she took vacation.

In NYC and San Fran in 2023 going rate is $150,000 to $220,000 for a nanny.

Real Nannies pass the Nanny Association Exam, speak multiple languages. In case of my cousins wife she had a Nursing Degree. And was a certified newborn care specialist.

And in Manhattan even with 200k a year the nanny gets free room and board and food stipend.

Vast majority DC parents have an illegal or a women they are taking advantage of.

If a real Nanny a person would need to earn 500k or more to make it worth while.

Correct. Most people are not paying for nor can they afford a professional Nanny.

They have a personal child care provider/consistent long term babysitter. Which is totally fine! And more than what most people can afford!

However, the issues with consistency, early childhood education, basic professionalism - like showing up to work on time - do.not.happen. with a true professional Nanny. It’s legitimately part of the service you’re paying for.

But tbh, it’s generally only UHNW families that can afford/pay for that kind of service…the same people who pay for elite boarding school and have multiple household staff. Nanny cooking or cleaning isn’t an issue because there is a chef and housekeeper, not a person that comes by a couple times a week to do those tasks but staff that are full time.

It’s less prestigious to say babysitter, so people say nanny, but this poster is correct, it really doesn’t seem like these are professional Nannies.

Lol. My eyes are rolling so hard. It’s not like being a nanny is a licensed profession. Literally any person can call themselves a nanny. It’s not like being a doctor, no matter how badly you want to think there’s some distinction between “professional nanny” and a “long term babysitter”. They are the same thing. Sure, some families can afford additional qualifications and choose to hire someone with that background. Good on them.

But things like showing up on time and being consistent don’t require speaking multiple languages or having a degree.

My nanny of 10 years speaks one language (Spanish) and her English is not awesome. She has an 8th grade education and no special training other than raising her own 4 children. She’s never been late or unreliable, ever. She has become family to us and I trust her more than DH haha.

And good on you that you are satisfied with your 8th grade educated nanny. Many like you pay less for a nanny but then spend extra money on academic tutoring and enrichment and whatnot. If you pay more for a college-educated nanny who speaks English and has other special skills, your nanny can also provide the academics and enrichment too.

Our former neighbors had a nanny who used to be a math teacher, in addition to having raised her own kids. Their kids always got all the math awards at school without setting foot in a Kumon center. But they paid well for that kind of service. I knew of another family whose nanny was a musician, so the kids got music lessons at home. Etc.

You can put down educated nannies as being pretentious or whatever, but it might actually be more cost effective to combine childcare and enrichment in one provider.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I earn a hell of a lot more than the nanny we hire. I have formal education that makes me qualified to do my job and the nanny has no formal education beyond HS. The nanny loves spending all day every day with children and I do not.

Are you providing her the same opportunity?

I am talking a macro basis? Let’s say 1 million women have a job in an office and one million women had a nanny. Why not educate Nanny’s to do rewarding high paid work?

Let moms be with own kids at least till eligible for childcare and back up office

Np. Are you sating being a nanny isn't rewarding? I think it is. After all you are raising the next generation

[Anonymous]

For my peace and mind, yes I need a nanny

I don't want to be 24/7 with my kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BTW vast majority of people say Nanny in DC but they don’t pay Nanny wages.

$100,000 a year with full benefits is bare minimum.

Gloria Richards is a famous Nanny and she charges $167 an hour. But $100k is going rate.

Sound right as back in 1996 my cousin married a nanny who worked for hedge fund guy and she was making $40k a year, free room and board, full benefits. They gave her a $10,000 wedding gift check when she got married. Even used their Hampton house for free if she took vacation.

In NYC and San Fran in 2023 going rate is $150,000 to $220,000 for a nanny.

Real Nannies pass the Nanny Association Exam, speak multiple languages. In case of my cousins wife she had a Nursing Degree. And was a certified newborn care specialist.

And in Manhattan even with 200k a year the nanny gets free room and board and food stipend.

Vast majority DC parents have an illegal or a women they are taking advantage of.

If a real Nanny a person would need to earn 500k or more to make it worth while.

Really? And what do these super nannies do? Our last nanny couldn't make a grilled cheese sandwich without burning it, and sent the kids out in 40 degree weather with no coat. I've yet to hire a nanny that didn't require a serious amount of micromanaging to get tasks done like kids' laundry and homework supervision.

I'm sorry about the poor quality of your babysitters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I earn a hell of a lot more than the nanny we hire. I have formal education that makes me qualified to do my job and the nanny has no formal education beyond HS. The nanny loves spending all day every day with children and I do not.

We are talking about your children. Why did you have them if you do not desire to be with them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For my peace and mind, yes I need a nanny

I don't want to be 24/7 with my kids.

I get wanting to have a career but it is sad that you don't want to be with your kids. Why have them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I earn a hell of a lot more than the nanny we hire. I have formal education that makes me qualified to do my job and the nanny has no formal education beyond HS. The nanny loves spending all day every day with children and I do not.

Are you providing her the same opportunity?

I am talking a macro basis? Let’s say 1 million women have a job in an office and one million women had a nanny. Why not educate Nanny’s to do rewarding high paid work?

Let moms be with own kids at least till eligible for childcare and back up office

Because my nanny doesn't have it in her to have graduated from an ivy league law school. Also, why aren't you bringing up dads here?

And you apparently don’t have it in you to raise children, which is a rather important and challenging job.

And how do you know she didn’t have it in her to achieve your high and mighty education? Perhaps she just didn’t have your advantages. Nice way to insult the person you leave your children with. What’s wrong with you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BTW vast majority of people say Nanny in DC but they don’t pay Nanny wages.

$100,000 a year with full benefits is bare minimum.

Gloria Richards is a famous Nanny and she charges $167 an hour. But $100k is going rate.

Sound right as back in 1996 my cousin married a nanny who worked for hedge fund guy and she was making $40k a year, free room and board, full benefits. They gave her a $10,000 wedding gift check when she got married. Even used their Hampton house for free if she took vacation.

In NYC and San Fran in 2023 going rate is $150,000 to $220,000 for a nanny.

Real Nannies pass the Nanny Association Exam, speak multiple languages. In case of my cousins wife she had a Nursing Degree. And was a certified newborn care specialist.

And in Manhattan even with 200k a year the nanny gets free room and board and food stipend.

Vast majority DC parents have an illegal or a women they are taking advantage of.

If a real Nanny a person would need to earn 500k or more to make it worth while.

Really? And what do these super nannies do? Our last nanny couldn't make a grilled cheese sandwich without burning it, and sent the kids out in 40 degree weather with no coat. I've yet to hire a nanny that didn't require a serious amount of micromanaging to get tasks done like kids' laundry and homework supervision.

You get what you pay for.

[Anonymous]

Back in the day, women worked in the fields and cooked and cleaned and kids were watched by grandmothers, aunts and older sisters. This whole nuclear family only thing si very recent and its questionable if its the best and easiest path to success of the family and children. We had a wonderful nanny for the kids who was like third grandma. She watched the kids as babies and toddlers and cooked meals, washed laundry and was a big part of our household. She taught the kids how to cook and read and do poems etc. She still sends us holiday gifts and we send her birthday cards etc.

[Anonymous]

+1

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.