APS Middle School Boundaries?

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t busers be independent? Confusing to me.

Some of you sound like your kids aren’t this age yet. They ride their bikes all over (including to school) and they are willing to walk all over the place. They will easily walk the distance they’re getting bused on the way home. The bus isn’t the big problem you’re making it out to be.

Because WMS is freaking far away, which is why parents were asking for a neighborhood school for a generation.

It’s too far to bike (and very hilly) and long bus ride by the time they are home it’s late. And the late bus was off the charts late, it dropped them off in the pitch dark.

It’s too far to bike. And too hilly. My teen bikes all over this county. That what they do once they want to see friends and go places and can’t drive yet.

You people are embarrassing.

Biking to school with a backpack of books on a timeline is different than hanging out with Larlo at Sbux.

And middle schoolers aren’t teens.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet they delay it for another year or two. People in pretty much every middle school were furious about having to move, and that eventually is inevitable. But it's easier to just kick the can for a few years.

I haven't heard that much furor. The loudest are a few Taylor parents who don't think their kids should have to move to WMS, but that will likely be ignored as ridiculous. And two Ashlawn PUs that don't want to be carved off the rest of the elementary school, but I think that can pretty easily be fixed. No one else has posted a significant number of comments.

I agree with this. It's really not that big of a deal. The Hamm people are just nuts.

Sure you can call us names, but delaying won’t end end the outrage. The angriest people are those with little kids at Taylor who bought a home walking distance to an elementary and middle school, usually two working parent households where having walkable and independent students is a huge time savings.

We will be angry in two years, angry in 5 years, and likely will STILL campaign against the stupid “bus half the walkzone away” decision in perpetuity.

Kids will waste so much time waiting for and riding a bus needlessly. So this fight will only be over in December if the school board does the right thing, and moves Immersion to the school with the greatest capacity and uses the plan that minimizes bus costs and staffing. That is probably moving it to WMS, but math whizs are welcome to prove otherwise.

Haven't you read your own posts? It doesn't matter how far away MS is located because parents NEVER have to go there and MS students are 100% fine taking the bus by themselves. Transportation isn't an issue by MS, right? That's what Taylor parents are posting. :roll:

APS changes boundaries roughly every year. If anyone bought not knowing that, then they should have done more research. It's not exactly a secret.

It’s about independence and wasting time on a longer than necessary bus ride. Taylor students are almost universally ridiculously close to Hamm, and busing to WMS takes a circuitous route through neighborhoods.

It’s okay for option because that is part of the deal which you can always walk away from, to coin a phrase.

People who chose neighborhood prioritized proximity and short commutes to school. They don’t have a fallback.

And boundaries shouldn’t be changing every year, if they would just invest appropriately in facilities rather than blowing the budget on slides and award winning urban schools.

If your issue is that kids should be able to walk, you're far more likely to get traction by proposing moving Hamm bus riders to WMS. They're already getting on a bus and many were previously zoned to WMS.

There's no way that APS is going to move Immersion to WMS given the feeder patterns, logistics, and equity issues. You can keep beating us over the head with the idea, but that isn't going to change those issues. I'd pivot to a different proposal if you want any chance of staying a walker.

It’s nice you make up “feeder patterns, logistics, and equity issues” as if they are actually a thing.

Option kids can be buses anywhere, and WMS requires the least buses through the system.

As for equity, moving Immersion to the majority Hispanic school sure looks like segregation, but I guess adding diversity to WMS hurts equity? You sure think funny.

STOP with this argument. First, EL is under the immersion department meaning APS has deemed immersion to have the most and appropriate resources to support EL students. Immersion schools support hispanic families by going above and beyond to support hispanic culture and teach about hispanic cultural figures that aren't necessarily taught in other APS schools. The immersion schools also celebrate hispanic cultural holidays..so you can call it racism but other might call it brining the righr support to where students need it.

Exactly. You have to move heaven and earth to entice the Spanish speaking community to participate because they are skeptical and suspect “English immersion” would actually have better outcomes for their children.

And I’m pretty sure they’re right

Putting EL under immersion? Okay bureaucrats gonna bureaucrat. That means squat.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet they delay it for another year or two. People in pretty much every middle school were furious about having to move, and that eventually is inevitable. But it's easier to just kick the can for a few years.

I haven't heard that much furor. The loudest are a few Taylor parents who don't think their kids should have to move to WMS, but that will likely be ignored as ridiculous. And two Ashlawn PUs that don't want to be carved off the rest of the elementary school, but I think that can pretty easily be fixed. No one else has posted a significant number of comments.

I agree with this. It's really not that big of a deal. The Hamm people are just nuts.

Sure you can call us names, but delaying won’t end end the outrage. The angriest people are those with little kids at Taylor who bought a home walking distance to an elementary and middle school, usually two working parent households where having walkable and independent students is a huge time savings.

We will be angry in two years, angry in 5 years, and likely will STILL campaign against the stupid “bus half the walkzone away” decision in perpetuity.

Kids will waste so much time waiting for and riding a bus needlessly. So this fight will only be over in December if the school board does the right thing, and moves Immersion to the school with the greatest capacity and uses the plan that minimizes bus costs and staffing. That is probably moving it to WMS, but math whizs are welcome to prove otherwise.

Haven't you read your own posts? It doesn't matter how far away MS is located because parents NEVER have to go there and MS students are 100% fine taking the bus by themselves. Transportation isn't an issue by MS, right? That's what Taylor parents are posting. :roll:

APS changes boundaries roughly every year. If anyone bought not knowing that, then they should have done more research. It's not exactly a secret.

It’s about independence and wasting time on a longer than necessary bus ride. Taylor students are almost universally ridiculously close to Hamm, and busing to WMS takes a circuitous route through neighborhoods.

It’s okay for option because that is part of the deal which you can always walk away from, to coin a phrase.

People who chose neighborhood prioritized proximity and short commutes to school. They don’t have a fallback.

And boundaries shouldn’t be changing every year, if they would just invest appropriately in facilities rather than blowing the budget on slides and award winning urban schools.

If your issue is that kids should be able to walk, you're far more likely to get traction by proposing moving Hamm bus riders to WMS. They're already getting on a bus and many were previously zoned to WMS.

There's no way that APS is going to move Immersion to WMS given the feeder patterns, logistics, and equity issues. You can keep beating us over the head with the idea, but that isn't going to change those issues. I'd pivot to a different proposal if you want any chance of staying a walker.

It’s nice you make up “feeder patterns, logistics, and equity issues” as if they are actually a thing.

Option kids can be buses anywhere, and WMS requires the least buses through the system.

As for equity, moving Immersion to the majority Hispanic school sure looks like segregation, but I guess adding diversity to WMS hurts equity? You sure think funny.

STOP with this argument. First, EL is under the immersion department meaning APS has deemed immersion to have the most and appropriate resources to support EL students. Immersion schools support hispanic families by going above and beyond to support hispanic culture and teach about hispanic cultural figures that aren't necessarily taught in other APS schools. The immersion schools also celebrate hispanic cultural holidays..so you can call it racism but other might call it brining the righr support to where students need it.

Exactly. You have to move heaven and earth to entice the Spanish speaking community to participate because they are skeptical and suspect “English immersion” would actually have better outcomes for their children.

And I’m pretty sure they’re right

Putting EL under immersion? Okay bureaucrats gonna bureaucrat. That means squat.

Except that's not true. They aren't moving anything. They are providing materials in Spanish to Spanish speaking communities to raise awareness, because otherwise people don't even know that it's even an option. That's it. It's not like they're handing out free puppies.

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My kid who rides a bus home from WMS is home no later than 25 minutes after school gets out. And we are one of the furthest PUs. And cross more major roads than those Hamm kids would. A kid walking maybe gets home 15 minutes after school is out if they are less than a mile. Stop whining.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet they delay it for another year or two. People in pretty much every middle school were furious about having to move, and that eventually is inevitable. But it's easier to just kick the can for a few years.

I haven't heard that much furor. The loudest are a few Taylor parents who don't think their kids should have to move to WMS, but that will likely be ignored as ridiculous. And two Ashlawn PUs that don't want to be carved off the rest of the elementary school, but I think that can pretty easily be fixed. No one else has posted a significant number of comments.

I agree with this. It's really not that big of a deal. The Hamm people are just nuts.

Sure you can call us names, but delaying won’t end end the outrage. The angriest people are those with little kids at Taylor who bought a home walking distance to an elementary and middle school, usually two working parent households where having walkable and independent students is a huge time savings.

We will be angry in two years, angry in 5 years, and likely will STILL campaign against the stupid “bus half the walkzone away” decision in perpetuity.

Kids will waste so much time waiting for and riding a bus needlessly. So this fight will only be over in December if the school board does the right thing, and moves Immersion to the school with the greatest capacity and uses the plan that minimizes bus costs and staffing. That is probably moving it to WMS, but math whizs are welcome to prove otherwise.

Haven't you read your own posts? It doesn't matter how far away MS is located because parents NEVER have to go there and MS students are 100% fine taking the bus by themselves. Transportation isn't an issue by MS, right? That's what Taylor parents are posting. :roll:

APS changes boundaries roughly every year. If anyone bought not knowing that, then they should have done more research. It's not exactly a secret.

It’s about independence and wasting time on a longer than necessary bus ride. Taylor students are almost universally ridiculously close to Hamm, and busing to WMS takes a circuitous route through neighborhoods.

It’s okay for option because that is part of the deal which you can always walk away from, to coin a phrase.

People who chose neighborhood prioritized proximity and short commutes to school. They don’t have a fallback.

And boundaries shouldn’t be changing every year, if they would just invest appropriately in facilities rather than blowing the budget on slides and award winning urban schools.

If your issue is that kids should be able to walk, you're far more likely to get traction by proposing moving Hamm bus riders to WMS. They're already getting on a bus and many were previously zoned to WMS.

There's no way that APS is going to move Immersion to WMS given the feeder patterns, logistics, and equity issues. You can keep beating us over the head with the idea, but that isn't going to change those issues. I'd pivot to a different proposal if you want any chance of staying a walker.

It’s nice you make up “feeder patterns, logistics, and equity issues” as if they are actually a thing.

Option kids can be buses anywhere, and WMS requires the least buses through the system.

As for equity, moving Immersion to the majority Hispanic school sure looks like segregation, but I guess adding diversity to WMS hurts equity? You sure think funny.

STOP with this argument. First, EL is under the immersion department meaning APS has deemed immersion to have the most and appropriate resources to support EL students. Immersion schools support hispanic families by going above and beyond to support hispanic culture and teach about hispanic cultural figures that aren't necessarily taught in other APS schools. The immersion schools also celebrate hispanic cultural holidays..so you can call it racism but other might call it brining the righr support to where students need it.

Exactly. You have to move heaven and earth to entice the Spanish speaking community to participate because they are skeptical and suspect “English immersion” would actually have better outcomes for their children.

And I’m pretty sure they’re right

Putting EL under immersion? Okay bureaucrats gonna bureaucrat. That means squat.

Except that's not true. They aren't moving anything. They are providing materials in Spanish to Spanish speaking communities to raise awareness, because otherwise people don't even know that it's even an option. That's it. It's not like they're handing out free puppies.

Exactly. They are just telling folks the program exists. I have a kid that is now going into yr 7 of immersion. Do you know how many arlington families I have talked to that have zero idea that immersion exists or that choice schools exist. The majority of families just show up at the school close to them and sign up. Heck we have families at our immersion school that show up day school starts just thinking it's a neighborhood school.

The outreach (not being done by APS but rather being done by immersion families, so costing APS nothing) just means hanging up or passing out flyers to people.

We do supply coffee. But I doubt that entices people too much.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t busers be independent? Confusing to me.

Some of you sound like your kids aren’t this age yet. They ride their bikes all over (including to school) and they are willing to walk all over the place. They will easily walk the distance they’re getting bused on the way home. The bus isn’t the big problem you’re making it out to be.

Because WMS is freaking far away, which is why parents were asking for a neighborhood school for a generation.

It’s too far to bike (and very hilly) and long bus ride by the time they are home it’s late. And the late bus was off the charts late, it dropped them off in the pitch dark.

It’s too far to bike. And too hilly. My teen bikes all over this county. That what they do once they want to see friends and go places and can’t drive yet.

You people are embarrassing.

Biking to school with a backpack of books on a timeline is different than hanging out with Larlo at Sbux.

And middle schoolers aren’t teens.

Good thing Taylor parents have money. Buy your kid an ebike.

Seriously though, kids bike to school all the time in my very hilly neighborhood. Kids are strong I see them bike up water Reed hill.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet they delay it for another year or two. People in pretty much every middle school were furious about having to move, and that eventually is inevitable. But it's easier to just kick the can for a few years.

I haven't heard that much furor. The loudest are a few Taylor parents who don't think their kids should have to move to WMS, but that will likely be ignored as ridiculous. And two Ashlawn PUs that don't want to be carved off the rest of the elementary school, but I think that can pretty easily be fixed. No one else has posted a significant number of comments.

I agree with this. It's really not that big of a deal. The Hamm people are just nuts.

Sure you can call us names, but delaying won’t end end the outrage. The angriest people are those with little kids at Taylor who bought a home walking distance to an elementary and middle school, usually two working parent households where having walkable and independent students is a huge time savings.

We will be angry in two years, angry in 5 years, and likely will STILL campaign against the stupid “bus half the walkzone away” decision in perpetuity.

Kids will waste so much time waiting for and riding a bus needlessly. So this fight will only be over in December if the school board does the right thing, and moves Immersion to the school with the greatest capacity and uses the plan that minimizes bus costs and staffing. That is probably moving it to WMS, but math whizs are welcome to prove otherwise.

Haven't you read your own posts? It doesn't matter how far away MS is located because parents NEVER have to go there and MS students are 100% fine taking the bus by themselves. Transportation isn't an issue by MS, right? That's what Taylor parents are posting.

APS changes boundaries roughly every year. If anyone bought not knowing that, then they should have done more research. It's not exactly a secret.

If you can just about physically see a school, it’s usually a safe assumption you’ll go to that school after redistricting. APS is proving to be an acceptation because of course.

Yeah, tell that to the McKinley parents in Madison Manor and Dominion Hills. Sheesh.

same with Bellevue Forest moving from Taylor to Jamestown. Get.Over.yourselves.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet they delay it for another year or two. People in pretty much every middle school were furious about having to move, and that eventually is inevitable. But it's easier to just kick the can for a few years.

I haven't heard that much furor. The loudest are a few Taylor parents who don't think their kids should have to move to WMS, but that will likely be ignored as ridiculous. And two Ashlawn PUs that don't want to be carved off the rest of the elementary school, but I think that can pretty easily be fixed. No one else has posted a significant number of comments.

there's a whole long thread on this on DCUM -did you miss that?

I've read the whole thing and this is my take away. There's some grousing that APS should end option programs and other nonsense, but I pretty well summed up the sentiment. The only furor is from a few Taylor parents.

FWIW I’m not a Taylor parent (never was, never will be— though I guess never say never with APS!) and I think it makes sense to maximize walk zones and keep Hamm walkable.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t busers be independent? Confusing to me.

Some of you sound like your kids aren’t this age yet. They ride their bikes all over (including to school) and they are willing to walk all over the place. They will easily walk the distance they’re getting bused on the way home. The bus isn’t the big problem you’re making it out to be.

Because WMS is freaking far away, which is why parents were asking for a neighborhood school for a generation.

It’s too far to bike (and very hilly) and long bus ride by the time they are home it’s late. And the late bus was off the charts late, it dropped them off in the pitch dark.

It’s too far to bike. And too hilly. My teen bikes all over this county. That what they do once they want to see friends and go places and can’t drive yet.

You people are embarrassing.

Biking to school with a backpack of books on a timeline is different than hanging out with Larlo at Sbux.

And middle schoolers aren’t teens.

Most of them are teens part way through 7th and all of them by 8th.

Drive by these middle schools after start time. Bikes everywhere on the bike racks. So seems like a lot of them are managing.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet they delay it for another year or two. People in pretty much every middle school were furious about having to move, and that eventually is inevitable. But it's easier to just kick the can for a few years.

I haven't heard that much furor. The loudest are a few Taylor parents who don't think their kids should have to move to WMS, but that will likely be ignored as ridiculous. And two Ashlawn PUs that don't want to be carved off the rest of the elementary school, but I think that can pretty easily be fixed. No one else has posted a significant number of comments.

I agree with this. It's really not that big of a deal. The Hamm people are just nuts.

Sure you can call us names, but delaying won’t end end the outrage. The angriest people are those with little kids at Taylor who bought a home walking distance to an elementary and middle school, usually two working parent households where having walkable and independent students is a huge time savings.

We will be angry in two years, angry in 5 years, and likely will STILL campaign against the stupid “bus half the walkzone away” decision in perpetuity.

Kids will waste so much time waiting for and riding a bus needlessly. So this fight will only be over in December if the school board does the right thing, and moves Immersion to the school with the greatest capacity and uses the plan that minimizes bus costs and staffing. That is probably moving it to WMS, but math whizs are welcome to prove otherwise.

The tone of this whole post is so completely weird. Who are you threatening exactly with your talk of a fight that won't end for at least 5 years? You'll be campaigning to who exactly in perpetuity? Sincerely, you need to grow up.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet they delay it for another year or two. People in pretty much every middle school were furious about having to move, and that eventually is inevitable. But it's easier to just kick the can for a few years.

I haven't heard that much furor. The loudest are a few Taylor parents who don't think their kids should have to move to WMS, but that will likely be ignored as ridiculous. And two Ashlawn PUs that don't want to be carved off the rest of the elementary school, but I think that can pretty easily be fixed. No one else has posted a significant number of comments.

I agree with this. It's really not that big of a deal. The Hamm people are just nuts.

Sure you can call us names, but delaying won’t end end the outrage. The angriest people are those with little kids at Taylor who bought a home walking distance to an elementary and middle school, usually two working parent households where having walkable and independent students is a huge time savings.

We will be angry in two years, angry in 5 years, and likely will STILL campaign against the stupid “bus half the walkzone away” decision in perpetuity.

Kids will waste so much time waiting for and riding a bus needlessly. So this fight will only be over in December if the school board does the right thing, and moves Immersion to the school with the greatest capacity and uses the plan that minimizes bus costs and staffing. That is probably moving it to WMS, but math whizs are welcome to prove otherwise.

The tone of this whole post is so completely weird. Who are you threatening exactly with your talk of a fight that won't end for at least 5 years? You'll be campaigning to who exactly in perpetuity? Sincerely, you need to grow up.

PP was calling us nuts, I’m not calling anyone names and not “threatening”. I’m just saying that this isn’t a short term issue for some parents who don’t want to change schools midstream. This is an untenable situation for a neighborhood that existed before Hamm was even a school, Hamm corrected it, and that is now being undone and will trigger a return to constant campaign to correct it.

People can be more civil and stop calling Hamm and Taylor parents nuts or crazy. We aren’t attacking people, we are advocating an approach that minimizes the buses needed and the bus routes for neighborhood kids across Arlington. Which is the right priority.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet they delay it for another year or two. People in pretty much every middle school were furious about having to move, and that eventually is inevitable. But it's easier to just kick the can for a few years.

I haven't heard that much furor. The loudest are a few Taylor parents who don't think their kids should have to move to WMS, but that will likely be ignored as ridiculous. And two Ashlawn PUs that don't want to be carved off the rest of the elementary school, but I think that can pretty easily be fixed. No one else has posted a significant number of comments.

I agree with this. It's really not that big of a deal. The Hamm people are just nuts.

Sure you can call us names, but delaying won’t end end the outrage. The angriest people are those with little kids at Taylor who bought a home walking distance to an elementary and middle school, usually two working parent households where having walkable and independent students is a huge time savings.

We will be angry in two years, angry in 5 years, and likely will STILL campaign against the stupid “bus half the walkzone away” decision in perpetuity.

Kids will waste so much time waiting for and riding a bus needlessly. So this fight will only be over in December if the school board does the right thing, and moves Immersion to the school with the greatest capacity and uses the plan that minimizes bus costs and staffing. That is probably moving it to WMS, but math whizs are welcome to prove otherwise.

Haven't you read your own posts? It doesn't matter how far away MS is located because parents NEVER have to go there and MS students are 100% fine taking the bus by themselves. Transportation isn't an issue by MS, right? That's what Taylor parents are posting. :roll:

APS changes boundaries roughly every year. If anyone bought not knowing that, then they should have done more research. It's not exactly a secret.

It’s about independence and wasting time on a longer than necessary bus ride. Taylor students are almost universally ridiculously close to Hamm, and busing to WMS takes a circuitous route through neighborhoods.

It’s okay for option because that is part of the deal which you can always walk away from, to coin a phrase.

People who chose neighborhood prioritized proximity and short commutes to school. They don’t have a fallback.

And boundaries shouldn’t be changing every year, if they would just invest appropriately in facilities rather than blowing the budget on slides and award winning urban schools.

If your issue is that kids should be able to walk, you're far more likely to get traction by proposing moving Hamm bus riders to WMS. They're already getting on a bus and many were previously zoned to WMS.

There's no way that APS is going to move Immersion to WMS given the feeder patterns, logistics, and equity issues. You can keep beating us over the head with the idea, but that isn't going to change those issues. I'd pivot to a different proposal if you want any chance of staying a walker.

It’s nice you make up “feeder patterns, logistics, and equity issues” as if they are actually a thing.

Option kids can be buses anywhere, and WMS requires the least buses through the system.

As for equity, moving Immersion to the majority Hispanic school sure looks like segregation, but I guess adding diversity to WMS hurts equity? You sure think funny.

Typing nonsense doesn't make it true. People responded to this stuff for 20+ pages. You may think it's okay to bus option kids anywhere and that's somehow part of the deal when you sign up for your kid to learn two languages, but no one else has to agree with you. Many others think all kids should be treated fairly. And most don't think busing a few Taylor students to WMS, a nearby MS, is inequitable in any way.

It absolutely is okay. There’s nothing anywhere in policy that signifies otherwise, meanwhile the neighborhood boundaries have six distinct considerations listed in policy. Kenmore parents do not want an option program moved to the school and nobody else thinks the wants of 300 kids outweigh the rest of thee system. Enjoy WMS!

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Anonymous wrote:I bet they delay it for another year or two. People in pretty much every middle school were furious about having to move, and that eventually is inevitable. But it's easier to just kick the can for a few years.

I haven't heard that much furor. The loudest are a few Taylor parents who don't think their kids should have to move to WMS, but that will likely be ignored as ridiculous. And two Ashlawn PUs that don't want to be carved off the rest of the elementary school, but I think that can pretty easily be fixed. No one else has posted a significant number of comments.

I agree with this. It's really not that big of a deal. The Hamm people are just nuts.

Sure you can call us names, but delaying won’t end end the outrage. The angriest people are those with little kids at Taylor who bought a home walking distance to an elementary and middle school, usually two working parent households where having walkable and independent students is a huge time savings.

We will be angry in two years, angry in 5 years, and likely will STILL campaign against the stupid “bus half the walkzone away” decision in perpetuity.

Kids will waste so much time waiting for and riding a bus needlessly. So this fight will only be over in December if the school board does the right thing, and moves Immersion to the school with the greatest capacity and uses the plan that minimizes bus costs and staffing. That is probably moving it to WMS, but math whizs are welcome to prove otherwise.

The tone of this whole post is so completely weird. Who are you threatening exactly with your talk of a fight that won't end for at least 5 years? You'll be campaigning to who exactly in perpetuity? Sincerely, you need to grow up.

PP was calling us nuts, I’m not calling anyone names and not “threatening”. I’m just saying that this isn’t a short term issue for some parents who don’t want to change schools midstream. This is an untenable situation for a neighborhood that existed before Hamm was even a school, Hamm corrected it, and that is now being undone and will trigger a return to constant campaign to correct it.

People can be more civil and stop calling Hamm and Taylor parents nuts or crazy. We aren’t attacking people, we are advocating an approach that minimizes the buses needed and the bus routes for neighborhood kids across Arlington. Which is the right priority.

Maybe not crazy, just extremely entitled. We walked to Taylor and we were moved to Jamestown in a boundary shift. So I KNOW all about the bus ride to WMS from this area. You are being extremely disingenuous trying to make out that Taylor kids are going to have a long ride to WMS. It’s 3 miles from school to school. All across APS, families have been asked to move. You aren’t that special. Feel free to continue “a constant campaign to correct it” LOL. No one cares about your entitled whining.

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So getting back to the original question here - when will we actually find out what the new middle school boundary proposal is? The timeline on the website is anything but clear.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet they delay it for another year or two. People in pretty much every middle school were furious about having to move, and that eventually is inevitable. But it's easier to just kick the can for a few years.

I haven't heard that much furor. The loudest are a few Taylor parents who don't think their kids should have to move to WMS, but that will likely be ignored as ridiculous. And two Ashlawn PUs that don't want to be carved off the rest of the elementary school, but I think that can pretty easily be fixed. No one else has posted a significant number of comments.

I agree with this. It's really not that big of a deal. The Hamm people are just nuts.

Sure you can call us names, but delaying won’t end end the outrage. The angriest people are those with little kids at Taylor who bought a home walking distance to an elementary and middle school, usually two working parent households where having walkable and independent students is a huge time savings.

We will be angry in two years, angry in 5 years, and likely will STILL campaign against the stupid “bus half the walkzone away” decision in perpetuity.

Kids will waste so much time waiting for and riding a bus needlessly. So this fight will only be over in December if the school board does the right thing, and moves Immersion to the school with the greatest capacity and uses the plan that minimizes bus costs and staffing. That is probably moving it to WMS, but math whizs are welcome to prove otherwise.

Haven't you read your own posts? It doesn't matter how far away MS is located because parents NEVER have to go there and MS students are 100% fine taking the bus by themselves. Transportation isn't an issue by MS, right? That's what Taylor parents are posting.

APS changes boundaries roughly every year. If anyone bought not knowing that, then they should have done more research. It's not exactly a secret.

It’s about independence and wasting time on a longer than necessary bus ride. Taylor students are almost universally ridiculously close to Hamm, and busing to WMS takes a circuitous route through neighborhoods.

It’s okay for option because that is part of the deal which you can always walk away from, to coin a phrase.

People who chose neighborhood prioritized proximity and short commutes to school. They don’t have a fallback.

And boundaries shouldn’t be changing every year, if they would just invest appropriately in facilities rather than blowing the budget on slides and award winning urban schools.

Boundaries don’t change every year. And boundaries changing this time has zero to do with past buildings having amenities you don’t approve of.

Doesn’t even make any sense.

DHMS opened in 2019, 4 years later we are RADICALLY redrawing boundaries. Maybe not “yearly” but incompetence and misguided investment. They should have made HBW bigger when they blew $100M, or maybe enlarged the other middle schools and built them a standard building for $50M.

OMG! There WAS an option to build Hamm larger to accommodate 1300 students instead of 1000. The neighbhorhood around Hamm rejected it and the board listened and voted it down. Now this same neighbhorhood doesnt' want to be moved away because, wait for it, Hamm is too small. So there you are, you are living with the consequences of your OWN actions.