are the top kids you know even applying to the Ivies and other top 20 schools?

[Anonymous]

I definitely sit up and pay attention if someone attended an Ivy. Until they prove themselves unworthy in some other form.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes have definitely seen this. Kids at our top private not applying Ivy or baby Ivy. Including valedictorian. But can’t say they aren’t applying to the next tier within top 25. But not as many.

Call me crazy but in 10-20 years employers won’t looks ivy graduates in the same coveted was as in the past.

You are crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes have definitely seen this. Kids at our top private not applying Ivy or baby Ivy. Including valedictorian. But can’t say they aren’t applying to the next tier within top 25. But not as many.

Call me crazy but in 10-20 years employers won’t looks ivy graduates in the same coveted was as in the past.

Baby Ivy?

i think what is meant by that is Williams and Amherst

50 years ago "little ivies" or "little 3" commonly referred to Amherst, Wesleyan, and Williams. In the 90s and 2000s, it transitioned to Amherst, Swarthmore, and Williams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of people apply to the Ivies and then keep quiet about it.

Maybe. But I think the trend is the other way. Smart kids aren't bothering with Harvard, Yale, and Princeton. That's for the try-hards and the status-obsessed. I think the real competition is a little further down the list - Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Rice, Berkeley, Duke, Notre Dame, Michigan.

Kids aren't idiots. They can see what's what. If you're not hooked, it's pointless to apply to Harvard or Yale. Whereas a little further down the list, it seems like you can get in on merit and grit and talent and hard work. So that's what the smart kids are gunning for. It feels more controllable.

You are completely clueless. Smart kids apply to both sets of schools.

No. Because they apply ED or have particular hooks.

And people are strategic about that,

Only dumbasses are applying to all Ivys and the like RD .

You have one shot ED. People shoot that shot wisely. Vanderbilt, for instance, has a 4.2 regular decision. Good luck with that. Duke, Penn, Rice, Brown, Stanford, Pomona, Northwestern, Harvard, MIT, CalTech, Yale - same numbers.

You want to scattershot. Go for it.

But it's a stupid way to go about things.

The people applying everywhere regular decision aren't getting in anywhere.

[Anonymous]

My top kid ED'ed to NYU

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid and many friends are top students.
We're all visiting the same colleges which are those in the 25-75 range. No one seems to be even considering the top tier.
Have you noticed this as well?

Blatant attempt at manipulating college choices of others.

Stop trying to play down the top tier so your kids can benefit. "top students" are going to apply to top tier.

[Anonymous]

Take a page out of the Big 3 playbook and shoot your shot REA or ED1 and then apply to a great but more realistic place like Chicago, Hopkins, or Vandy ED2.