Royal Caribbean Cruise to Labadee, Haiti

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster who has been labeled as the cruising apologist. Lol.

My Haitian friends and coworkers haven’t visited Haiti in years. It’s not safe, and they say they would be targets.

No American can safely travel to Haiti right now unless they arrive by ship to Labadee. That’s a fact.

Yes, Labadee is far removed and protected from the rampant violence further south.

I disagree that it isn’t an authentic experience. You will see the lush beauty of the beaches fronting the tropical mountains, swim in the ocean, and interact with locals working onsite.

What would you get at a Haitian resort? The only difference I see is risk.

Wow. Just wow. You really think an afternoon in Labadee is an “authentic experience” in Haiti? It is not. An “authentic experience” would be visiting the Sans Souci Palace ruins and the Citadelle only an hour away. An “authentic experience” would be touring Port au Prince and leaning about Haitian history and art. An “authentic experience” would be a visit to Jacmel. Locking white tourists up on a beach on the north coast of Haiti where their only interactions with local Haitians are those hand selected by Royal Caribbean and who pay RC a commission for the privilege is not an “authentic experience.” You are delusional to the point of absurdity, you do know that right??!!

Sigh.

Obviously.

But nobody can safely do any of that now. You do realize that, right?

And you do realize that lots of people who take land based trips to the Caribbean typically stay put at resorts, right? Are their trips more authentic?

Nobody is venturing on tours in Haiti now. It’s just not safe. But Labadee is safe. And you absolutely get a taste of the beauty there. You just do. Unless you’ve been there, how could you possibly know? FYI: they have some historic ruins at Labadee along with cultural docents.

FTR, I have traveled extensively and I prefer off the beaten path destinations. I strive to eat where the locals go. I’m not one to plop down at a resort unless I’m taking a relaxing vacation. But I’m also not one to openly criticize others who travel differently or those who take cruises.

I hope the op goes to Labadee. I had a fantastic day there last year. So relaxing. My kids really enjoyed swimming there and even they commented on how gorgeous the location is in terms of gardens and the tropical, mountainous backdrop.

PP here. I’ve been to Labadee as I noted. I went on a day when there were no ships and they actually let Haitians visit the beach. And it was the least “authentic” day of my trip by far. Any more pithy comments Cancun Karen?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster who has been labeled as the cruising apologist. Lol.

My Haitian friends and coworkers haven’t visited Haiti in years. It’s not safe, and they say they would be targets.

No American can safely travel to Haiti right now unless they arrive by ship to Labadee. That’s a fact.

Yes, Labadee is far removed and protected from the rampant violence further south.

I disagree that it isn’t an authentic experience. You will see the lush beauty of the beaches fronting the tropical mountains, swim in the ocean, and interact with locals working onsite.

What would you get at a Haitian resort? The only difference I see is risk.

Wow. Just wow. You really think an afternoon in Labadee is an “authentic experience” in Haiti? It is not. An “authentic experience” would be visiting the Sans Souci Palace ruins and the Citadelle only an hour away. An “authentic experience” would be touring Port au Prince and leaning about Haitian history and art. An “authentic experience” would be a visit to Jacmel. Locking white tourists up on a beach on the north coast of Haiti where their only interactions with local Haitians are those hand selected by Royal Caribbean and who pay RC a commission for the privilege is not an “authentic experience.” You are delusional to the point of absurdity, you do know that right??!!

Sigh.

Obviously.

But nobody can safely do any of that now. You do realize that, right?

And you do realize that lots of people who take land based trips to the Caribbean typically stay put at resorts, right? Are their trips more authentic?

Nobody is venturing on tours in Haiti now. It’s just not safe. But Labadee is safe. And you absolutely get a taste of the beauty there. You just do. Unless you’ve been there, how could you possibly know? FYI: they have some historic ruins at Labadee along with cultural docents.

FTR, I have traveled extensively and I prefer off the beaten path destinations. I strive to eat where the locals go. I’m not one to plop down at a resort unless I’m taking a relaxing vacation. But I’m also not one to openly criticize others who travel differently or those who take cruises.

I hope the op goes to Labadee. I had a fantastic day there last year. So relaxing. My kids really enjoyed swimming there and even they commented on how gorgeous the location is in terms of gardens and the tropical, mountainous backdrop.

I’ve done it all in the last year. What are you talking about that it’s not possible?! Try traveling not on a cruise ship sometime!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster who has been labeled as the cruising apologist. Lol.

My Haitian friends and coworkers haven’t visited Haiti in years. It’s not safe, and they say they would be targets.

No American can safely travel to Haiti right now unless they arrive by ship to Labadee. That’s a fact.

Yes, Labadee is far removed and protected from the rampant violence further south.

I disagree that it isn’t an authentic experience. You will see the lush beauty of the beaches fronting the tropical mountains, swim in the ocean, and interact with locals working onsite.

What would you get at a Haitian resort? The only difference I see is risk.

Wow. Just wow. You really think an afternoon in Labadee is an “authentic experience” in Haiti? It is not. An “authentic experience” would be visiting the Sans Souci Palace ruins and the Citadelle only an hour away. An “authentic experience” would be touring Port au Prince and leaning about Haitian history and art. An “authentic experience” would be a visit to Jacmel. Locking white tourists up on a beach on the north coast of Haiti where their only interactions with local Haitians are those hand selected by Royal Caribbean and who pay RC a commission for the privilege is not an “authentic experience.” You are delusional to the point of absurdity, you do know that right??!!

Sigh.

Obviously.

But nobody can safely do any of that now. You do realize that, right?

And you do realize that lots of people who take land based trips to the Caribbean typically stay put at resorts, right? Are their trips more authentic?

Nobody is venturing on tours in Haiti now. It’s just not safe. But Labadee is safe. And you absolutely get a taste of the beauty there. You just do. Unless you’ve been there, how could you possibly know? FYI: they have some historic ruins at Labadee along with cultural docents.

FTR, I have traveled extensively and I prefer off the beaten path destinations. I strive to eat where the locals go. I’m not one to plop down at a resort unless I’m taking a relaxing vacation. But I’m also not one to openly criticize others who travel differently or those who take cruises.

I hope the op goes to Labadee. I had a fantastic day there last year. So relaxing. My kids really enjoyed swimming there and even they commented on how gorgeous the location is in terms of gardens and the tropical, mountainous backdrop.

I’ve done it all in the last year. What are you talking about that it’s not possible?! Try traveling not on a cruise ship sometime!

Wait, you are saying you have toured Port-au-Prince in the last year? I don't believe that for a second.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster who has been labeled as the cruising apologist. Lol.

My Haitian friends and coworkers haven’t visited Haiti in years. It’s not safe, and they say they would be targets.

No American can safely travel to Haiti right now unless they arrive by ship to Labadee. That’s a fact.

Yes, Labadee is far removed and protected from the rampant violence further south.

I disagree that it isn’t an authentic experience. You will see the lush beauty of the beaches fronting the tropical mountains, swim in the ocean, and interact with locals working onsite.

What would you get at a Haitian resort? The only difference I see is risk.

Wow. Just wow. You really think an afternoon in Labadee is an “authentic experience” in Haiti? It is not. An “authentic experience” would be visiting the Sans Souci Palace ruins and the Citadelle only an hour away. An “authentic experience” would be touring Port au Prince and leaning about Haitian history and art. An “authentic experience” would be a visit to Jacmel. Locking white tourists up on a beach on the north coast of Haiti where their only interactions with local Haitians are those hand selected by Royal Caribbean and who pay RC a commission for the privilege is not an “authentic experience.” You are delusional to the point of absurdity, you do know that right??!!

Sigh.

Obviously.

But nobody can safely do any of that now. You do realize that, right?

And you do realize that lots of people who take land based trips to the Caribbean typically stay put at resorts, right? Are their trips more authentic?

Nobody is venturing on tours in Haiti now. It’s just not safe. But Labadee is safe. And you absolutely get a taste of the beauty there. You just do. Unless you’ve been there, how could you possibly know? FYI: they have some historic ruins at Labadee along with cultural docents.

FTR, I have traveled extensively and I prefer off the beaten path destinations. I strive to eat where the locals go. I’m not one to plop down at a resort unless I’m taking a relaxing vacation. But I’m also not one to openly criticize others who travel differently or those who take cruises.

I hope the op goes to Labadee. I had a fantastic day there last year. So relaxing. My kids really enjoyed swimming there and even they commented on how gorgeous the location is in terms of gardens and the tropical, mountainous backdrop.

I’ve done it all in the last year. What are you talking about that it’s not possible?! Try traveling not on a cruise ship sometime!

Wait, you are saying you have toured Port-au-Prince in the last year? I don't believe that for a second.

Yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster who has been labeled as the cruising apologist. Lol.

My Haitian friends and coworkers haven’t visited Haiti in years. It’s not safe, and they say they would be targets.

No American can safely travel to Haiti right now unless they arrive by ship to Labadee. That’s a fact.

Yes, Labadee is far removed and protected from the rampant violence further south.

I disagree that it isn’t an authentic experience. You will see the lush beauty of the beaches fronting the tropical mountains, swim in the ocean, and interact with locals working onsite.

What would you get at a Haitian resort? The only difference I see is risk.

Wow. Just wow. You really think an afternoon in Labadee is an “authentic experience” in Haiti? It is not. An “authentic experience” would be visiting the Sans Souci Palace ruins and the Citadelle only an hour away. An “authentic experience” would be touring Port au Prince and leaning about Haitian history and art. An “authentic experience” would be a visit to Jacmel. Locking white tourists up on a beach on the north coast of Haiti where their only interactions with local Haitians are those hand selected by Royal Caribbean and who pay RC a commission for the privilege is not an “authentic experience.” You are delusional to the point of absurdity, you do know that right??!!

Sigh.

Obviously.

But nobody can safely do any of that now. You do realize that, right?

And you do realize that lots of people who take land based trips to the Caribbean typically stay put at resorts, right? Are their trips more authentic?

Nobody is venturing on tours in Haiti now. It’s just not safe. But Labadee is safe. And you absolutely get a taste of the beauty there. You just do. Unless you’ve been there, how could you possibly know? FYI: they have some historic ruins at Labadee along with cultural docents.

FTR, I have traveled extensively and I prefer off the beaten path destinations. I strive to eat where the locals go. I’m not one to plop down at a resort unless I’m taking a relaxing vacation. But I’m also not one to openly criticize others who travel differently or those who take cruises.

I hope the op goes to Labadee. I had a fantastic day there last year. So relaxing. My kids really enjoyed swimming there and even they commented on how gorgeous the location is in terms of gardens and the tropical, mountainous backdrop.

I’ve done it all in the last year. What are you talking about that it’s not possible?! Try traveling not on a cruise ship sometime!

Wait, you are saying you have toured Port-au-Prince in the last year? I don't believe that for a second.

Agreed. Even my friends from other parts of Haiti, not PaP, have not gone for their usual visits home this year. PP got caught being stupid and is lying now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster who has been labeled as the cruising apologist. Lol.

My Haitian friends and coworkers haven’t visited Haiti in years. It’s not safe, and they say they would be targets.

No American can safely travel to Haiti right now unless they arrive by ship to Labadee. That’s a fact.

Yes, Labadee is far removed and protected from the rampant violence further south.

I disagree that it isn’t an authentic experience. You will see the lush beauty of the beaches fronting the tropical mountains, swim in the ocean, and interact with locals working onsite.

What would you get at a Haitian resort? The only difference I see is risk.

Wow. Just wow. You really think an afternoon in Labadee is an “authentic experience” in Haiti? It is not. An “authentic experience” would be visiting the Sans Souci Palace ruins and the Citadelle only an hour away. An “authentic experience” would be touring Port au Prince and leaning about Haitian history and art. An “authentic experience” would be a visit to Jacmel. Locking white tourists up on a beach on the north coast of Haiti where their only interactions with local Haitians are those hand selected by Royal Caribbean and who pay RC a commission for the privilege is not an “authentic experience.” You are delusional to the point of absurdity, you do know that right??!!

Sigh.

Obviously.

But nobody can safely do any of that now. You do realize that, right?

And you do realize that lots of people who take land based trips to the Caribbean typically stay put at resorts, right? Are their trips more authentic?

Nobody is venturing on tours in Haiti now. It’s just not safe. But Labadee is safe. And you absolutely get a taste of the beauty there. You just do. Unless you’ve been there, how could you possibly know? FYI: they have some historic ruins at Labadee along with cultural docents.

FTR, I have traveled extensively and I prefer off the beaten path destinations. I strive to eat where the locals go. I’m not one to plop down at a resort unless I’m taking a relaxing vacation. But I’m also not one to openly criticize others who travel differently or those who take cruises.

I hope the op goes to Labadee. I had a fantastic day there last year. So relaxing. My kids really enjoyed swimming there and even they commented on how gorgeous the location is in terms of gardens and the tropical, mountainous backdrop.

I’ve done it all in the last year. What are you talking about that it’s not possible?! Try traveling not on a cruise ship sometime!

Wait, you are saying you have toured Port-au-Prince in the last year? I don't believe that for a second.

Agreed. Even my friends from other parts of Haiti, not PaP, have not gone for their usual visits home this year. PP got caught being stupid and is lying now.

Absolutely not. PaP is fine to visit with reasonable precautions and sound local contacts. Sorry you’re so scared.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster who has been labeled as the cruising apologist. Lol.

My Haitian friends and coworkers haven’t visited Haiti in years. It’s not safe, and they say they would be targets.

No American can safely travel to Haiti right now unless they arrive by ship to Labadee. That’s a fact.

Yes, Labadee is far removed and protected from the rampant violence further south.

I disagree that it isn’t an authentic experience. You will see the lush beauty of the beaches fronting the tropical mountains, swim in the ocean, and interact with locals working onsite.

What would you get at a Haitian resort? The only difference I see is risk.

Wow. Just wow. You really think an afternoon in Labadee is an “authentic experience” in Haiti? It is not. An “authentic experience” would be visiting the Sans Souci Palace ruins and the Citadelle only an hour away. An “authentic experience” would be touring Port au Prince and leaning about Haitian history and art. An “authentic experience” would be a visit to Jacmel. Locking white tourists up on a beach on the north coast of Haiti where their only interactions with local Haitians are those hand selected by Royal Caribbean and who pay RC a commission for the privilege is not an “authentic experience.” You are delusional to the point of absurdity, you do know that right??!!

Sigh.

Obviously.

But nobody can safely do any of that now. You do realize that, right?

And you do realize that lots of people who take land based trips to the Caribbean typically stay put at resorts, right? Are their trips more authentic?

Nobody is venturing on tours in Haiti now. It’s just not safe. But Labadee is safe. And you absolutely get a taste of the beauty there. You just do. Unless you’ve been there, how could you possibly know? FYI: they have some historic ruins at Labadee along with cultural docents.

FTR, I have traveled extensively and I prefer off the beaten path destinations. I strive to eat where the locals go. I’m not one to plop down at a resort unless I’m taking a relaxing vacation. But I’m also not one to openly criticize others who travel differently or those who take cruises.

I hope the op goes to Labadee. I had a fantastic day there last year. So relaxing. My kids really enjoyed swimming there and even they commented on how gorgeous the location is in terms of gardens and the tropical, mountainous backdrop.

I’ve done it all in the last year. What are you talking about that it’s not possible?! Try traveling not on a cruise ship sometime!

Wait, you are saying you have toured Port-au-Prince in the last year? I don't believe that for a second.

Yes.

What were you there for? I’m black with a ton of Haitian friends that still have family (and spouses!) in Haiti, and not a single one is visiting Haiti anytime soon.

So I find it really difficult, if not impossible, to believe that an internet rando from DCUM is visiting the place just for kicks.

State your reasons for visiting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster who has been labeled as the cruising apologist. Lol.

My Haitian friends and coworkers haven’t visited Haiti in years. It’s not safe, and they say they would be targets.

No American can safely travel to Haiti right now unless they arrive by ship to Labadee. That’s a fact.

Yes, Labadee is far removed and protected from the rampant violence further south.

I disagree that it isn’t an authentic experience. You will see the lush beauty of the beaches fronting the tropical mountains, swim in the ocean, and interact with locals working onsite.

What would you get at a Haitian resort? The only difference I see is risk.

Wow. Just wow. You really think an afternoon in Labadee is an “authentic experience” in Haiti? It is not. An “authentic experience” would be visiting the Sans Souci Palace ruins and the Citadelle only an hour away. An “authentic experience” would be touring Port au Prince and leaning about Haitian history and art. An “authentic experience” would be a visit to Jacmel. Locking white tourists up on a beach on the north coast of Haiti where their only interactions with local Haitians are those hand selected by Royal Caribbean and who pay RC a commission for the privilege is not an “authentic experience.” You are delusional to the point of absurdity, you do know that right??!!

Sigh.

Obviously.

But nobody can safely do any of that now. You do realize that, right?

And you do realize that lots of people who take land based trips to the Caribbean typically stay put at resorts, right? Are their trips more authentic?

Nobody is venturing on tours in Haiti now. It’s just not safe. But Labadee is safe. And you absolutely get a taste of the beauty there. You just do. Unless you’ve been there, how could you possibly know? FYI: they have some historic ruins at Labadee along with cultural docents.

FTR, I have traveled extensively and I prefer off the beaten path destinations. I strive to eat where the locals go. I’m not one to plop down at a resort unless I’m taking a relaxing vacation. But I’m also not one to openly criticize others who travel differently or those who take cruises.

I hope the op goes to Labadee. I had a fantastic day there last year. So relaxing. My kids really enjoyed swimming there and even they commented on how gorgeous the location is in terms of gardens and the tropical, mountainous backdrop.

I call BS on the “traveled extensively” part. My best guess is you’re just another larda** American who can’t stray too far from the cruisehip buffet. As big as a house I imagine!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster who has been labeled as the cruising apologist. Lol.

My Haitian friends and coworkers haven’t visited Haiti in years. It’s not safe, and they say they would be targets.

No American can safely travel to Haiti right now unless they arrive by ship to Labadee. That’s a fact.

Yes, Labadee is far removed and protected from the rampant violence further south.

I disagree that it isn’t an authentic experience. You will see the lush beauty of the beaches fronting the tropical mountains, swim in the ocean, and interact with locals working onsite.

What would you get at a Haitian resort? The only difference I see is risk.

Wow. Just wow. You really think an afternoon in Labadee is an “authentic experience” in Haiti? It is not. An “authentic experience” would be visiting the Sans Souci Palace ruins and the Citadelle only an hour away. An “authentic experience” would be touring Port au Prince and leaning about Haitian history and art. An “authentic experience” would be a visit to Jacmel. Locking white tourists up on a beach on the north coast of Haiti where their only interactions with local Haitians are those hand selected by Royal Caribbean and who pay RC a commission for the privilege is not an “authentic experience.” You are delusional to the point of absurdity, you do know that right??!!

Sigh.

Obviously.

But nobody can safely do any of that now. You do realize that, right?

And you do realize that lots of people who take land based trips to the Caribbean typically stay put at resorts, right? Are their trips more authentic?

Nobody is venturing on tours in Haiti now. It’s just not safe. But Labadee is safe. And you absolutely get a taste of the beauty there. You just do. Unless you’ve been there, how could you possibly know? FYI: they have some historic ruins at Labadee along with cultural docents.

FTR, I have traveled extensively and I prefer off the beaten path destinations. I strive to eat where the locals go. I’m not one to plop down at a resort unless I’m taking a relaxing vacation. But I’m also not one to openly criticize others who travel differently or those who take cruises.

I hope the op goes to Labadee. I had a fantastic day there last year. So relaxing. My kids really enjoyed swimming there and even they commented on how gorgeous the location is in terms of gardens and the tropical, mountainous backdrop.

I’ve done it all in the last year. What are you talking about that it’s not possible?! Try traveling not on a cruise ship sometime!

Wait, you are saying you have toured Port-au-Prince in the last year? I don't believe that for a second.

Yes.

What were you there for? I’m black with a ton of Haitian friends that still have family (and spouses!) in Haiti, and not a single one is visiting Haiti anytime soon.

So I find it really difficult, if not impossible, to believe that an internet rando from DCUM is visiting the place just for kicks.

State your reasons for visiting.

Tourism. History, art, culture. Haiti excels in all three areas. You should try it sometime! It’s really not as scary as the US media would have you believe. Quick and easy flights from Miami and FLL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't go. But not because of the travel advisory on Haiti. I wouldn't go because I took a RC cruise this summer and it was horrible. Worst vacation I've ever had.

They are disgusting cesspools of norovirus and binge eating, and one of the worst climate criminal industries there are. They pump out waste and pollution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster who has been labeled as the cruising apologist. Lol.

My Haitian friends and coworkers haven’t visited Haiti in years. It’s not safe, and they say they would be targets.

No American can safely travel to Haiti right now unless they arrive by ship to Labadee. That’s a fact.

Yes, Labadee is far removed and protected from the rampant violence further south.

I disagree that it isn’t an authentic experience. You will see the lush beauty of the beaches fronting the tropical mountains, swim in the ocean, and interact with locals working onsite.

What would you get at a Haitian resort? The only difference I see is risk.

Wow. Just wow. You really think an afternoon in Labadee is an “authentic experience” in Haiti? It is not. An “authentic experience” would be visiting the Sans Souci Palace ruins and the Citadelle only an hour away. An “authentic experience” would be touring Port au Prince and leaning about Haitian history and art. An “authentic experience” would be a visit to Jacmel. Locking white tourists up on a beach on the north coast of Haiti where their only interactions with local Haitians are those hand selected by Royal Caribbean and who pay RC a commission for the privilege is not an “authentic experience.” You are delusional to the point of absurdity, you do know that right??!!

Sigh.

Obviously.

But nobody can safely do any of that now. You do realize that, right?

And you do realize that lots of people who take land based trips to the Caribbean typically stay put at resorts, right? Are their trips more authentic?

Nobody is venturing on tours in Haiti now. It’s just not safe. But Labadee is safe. And you absolutely get a taste of the beauty there. You just do. Unless you’ve been there, how could you possibly know? FYI: they have some historic ruins at Labadee along with cultural docents.

FTR, I have traveled extensively and I prefer off the beaten path destinations. I strive to eat where the locals go. I’m not one to plop down at a resort unless I’m taking a relaxing vacation. But I’m also not one to openly criticize others who travel differently or those who take cruises.

I hope the op goes to Labadee. I had a fantastic day there last year. So relaxing. My kids really enjoyed swimming there and even they commented on how gorgeous the location is in terms of gardens and the tropical, mountainous backdrop.

I’ve done it all in the last year. What are you talking about that it’s not possible?! Try traveling not on a cruise ship sometime!

Wait, you are saying you have toured Port-au-Prince in the last year? I don't believe that for a second.

Yes.

What were you there for? I’m black with a ton of Haitian friends that still have family (and spouses!) in Haiti, and not a single one is visiting Haiti anytime soon.

So I find it really difficult, if not impossible, to believe that an internet rando from DCUM is visiting the place just for kicks.

State your reasons for visiting.

Tourism. History, art, culture. Haiti excels in all three areas. You should try it sometime! It’s really not as scary as the US media would have you believe. Quick and easy flights from Miami and FLL.

PP here who asked the confirming question. You are full of s--t and you know it. Have family who works with people in Haiti. Some of them have been victims of abduction or attempted abduction in the last 6 months. The government is basically non-existent in PaP and the roads in/out- those areas are under constant threat of gangs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster who has been labeled as the cruising apologist. Lol.

My Haitian friends and coworkers haven’t visited Haiti in years. It’s not safe, and they say they would be targets.

No American can safely travel to Haiti right now unless they arrive by ship to Labadee. That’s a fact.

Yes, Labadee is far removed and protected from the rampant violence further south.

I disagree that it isn’t an authentic experience. You will see the lush beauty of the beaches fronting the tropical mountains, swim in the ocean, and interact with locals working onsite.

What would you get at a Haitian resort? The only difference I see is risk.

Wow. Just wow. You really think an afternoon in Labadee is an “authentic experience” in Haiti? It is not. An “authentic experience” would be visiting the Sans Souci Palace ruins and the Citadelle only an hour away. An “authentic experience” would be touring Port au Prince and leaning about Haitian history and art. An “authentic experience” would be a visit to Jacmel. Locking white tourists up on a beach on the north coast of Haiti where their only interactions with local Haitians are those hand selected by Royal Caribbean and who pay RC a commission for the privilege is not an “authentic experience.” You are delusional to the point of absurdity, you do know that right??!!

Sigh.

Obviously.

But nobody can safely do any of that now. You do realize that, right?

And you do realize that lots of people who take land based trips to the Caribbean typically stay put at resorts, right? Are their trips more authentic?

Nobody is venturing on tours in Haiti now. It’s just not safe. But Labadee is safe. And you absolutely get a taste of the beauty there. You just do. Unless you’ve been there, how could you possibly know? FYI: they have some historic ruins at Labadee along with cultural docents.

FTR, I have traveled extensively and I prefer off the beaten path destinations. I strive to eat where the locals go. I’m not one to plop down at a resort unless I’m taking a relaxing vacation. But I’m also not one to openly criticize others who travel differently or those who take cruises.

I hope the op goes to Labadee. I had a fantastic day there last year. So relaxing. My kids really enjoyed swimming there and even they commented on how gorgeous the location is in terms of gardens and the tropical, mountainous backdrop.

I’ve done it all in the last year. What are you talking about that it’s not possible?! Try traveling not on a cruise ship sometime!

Wait, you are saying you have toured Port-au-Prince in the last year? I don't believe that for a second.

Yes.

What were you there for? I’m black with a ton of Haitian friends that still have family (and spouses!) in Haiti, and not a single one is visiting Haiti anytime soon.

So I find it really difficult, if not impossible, to believe that an internet rando from DCUM is visiting the place just for kicks.

State your reasons for visiting.

Tourism. History, art, culture. Haiti excels in all three areas. You should try it sometime! It’s really not as scary as the US media would have you believe. Quick and easy flights from Miami and FLL.

PP here who asked the confirming question. You are full of s--t and you know it. Have family who works with people in Haiti. Some of them have been victims of abduction or attempted abduction in the last 6 months. The government is basically non-existent in PaP and the roads in/out- those areas are under constant threat of gangs.

Sorry to hear that. But honestly, in Haiti and many developing nations, foreigners are much safer than locals. It’s just a fact. Gangs don’t want to harm foreigners when it brings so much attention. I never felt unsafe in Haiti for a second.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster who has been labeled as the cruising apologist. Lol.

My Haitian friends and coworkers haven’t visited Haiti in years. It’s not safe, and they say they would be targets.

No American can safely travel to Haiti right now unless they arrive by ship to Labadee. That’s a fact.

Yes, Labadee is far removed and protected from the rampant violence further south.

I disagree that it isn’t an authentic experience. You will see the lush beauty of the beaches fronting the tropical mountains, swim in the ocean, and interact with locals working onsite.

What would you get at a Haitian resort? The only difference I see is risk.

Wow. Just wow. You really think an afternoon in Labadee is an “authentic experience” in Haiti? It is not. An “authentic experience” would be visiting the Sans Souci Palace ruins and the Citadelle only an hour away. An “authentic experience” would be touring Port au Prince and leaning about Haitian history and art. An “authentic experience” would be a visit to Jacmel. Locking white tourists up on a beach on the north coast of Haiti where their only interactions with local Haitians are those hand selected by Royal Caribbean and who pay RC a commission for the privilege is not an “authentic experience.” You are delusional to the point of absurdity, you do know that right??!!

Sigh.

Obviously.

But nobody can safely do any of that now. You do realize that, right?

And you do realize that lots of people who take land based trips to the Caribbean typically stay put at resorts, right? Are their trips more authentic?

Nobody is venturing on tours in Haiti now. It’s just not safe. But Labadee is safe. And you absolutely get a taste of the beauty there. You just do. Unless you’ve been there, how could you possibly know? FYI: they have some historic ruins at Labadee along with cultural docents.

FTR, I have traveled extensively and I prefer off the beaten path destinations. I strive to eat where the locals go. I’m not one to plop down at a resort unless I’m taking a relaxing vacation. But I’m also not one to openly criticize others who travel differently or those who take cruises.

I hope the op goes to Labadee. I had a fantastic day there last year. So relaxing. My kids really enjoyed swimming there and even they commented on how gorgeous the location is in terms of gardens and the tropical, mountainous backdrop.

I’ve done it all in the last year. What are you talking about that it’s not possible?! Try traveling not on a cruise ship sometime!

Wait, you are saying you have toured Port-au-Prince in the last year? I don't believe that for a second.

Yes.

What were you there for? I’m black with a ton of Haitian friends that still have family (and spouses!) in Haiti, and not a single one is visiting Haiti anytime soon.

So I find it really difficult, if not impossible, to believe that an internet rando from DCUM is visiting the place just for kicks.

State your reasons for visiting.

Tourism. History, art, culture. Haiti excels in all three areas. You should try it sometime! It’s really not as scary as the US media would have you believe. Quick and easy flights from Miami and FLL.

PP here who asked the confirming question. You are full of s--t and you know it. Have family who works with people in Haiti. Some of them have been victims of abduction or attempted abduction in the last 6 months. The government is basically non-existent in PaP and the roads in/out- those areas are under constant threat of gangs.

Sorry to hear that. But honestly, in Haiti and many developing nations, foreigners are much safer than locals. It’s just a fact. Gangs don’t want to harm foreigners when it brings so much attention. I never felt unsafe in Haiti for a second.

Seriously WTF are you talking about? Those in Haiti are telling the Americans not to come because they know they will be incredibly obvious targets. You think gangs who have killed their countries president care about "too much attention"? From who?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster who has been labeled as the cruising apologist. Lol.

My Haitian friends and coworkers haven’t visited Haiti in years. It’s not safe, and they say they would be targets.

No American can safely travel to Haiti right now unless they arrive by ship to Labadee. That’s a fact.

Yes, Labadee is far removed and protected from the rampant violence further south.

I disagree that it isn’t an authentic experience. You will see the lush beauty of the beaches fronting the tropical mountains, swim in the ocean, and interact with locals working onsite.

What would you get at a Haitian resort? The only difference I see is risk.

Wow. Just wow. You really think an afternoon in Labadee is an “authentic experience” in Haiti? It is not. An “authentic experience” would be visiting the Sans Souci Palace ruins and the Citadelle only an hour away. An “authentic experience” would be touring Port au Prince and leaning about Haitian history and art. An “authentic experience” would be a visit to Jacmel. Locking white tourists up on a beach on the north coast of Haiti where their only interactions with local Haitians are those hand selected by Royal Caribbean and who pay RC a commission for the privilege is not an “authentic experience.” You are delusional to the point of absurdity, you do know that right??!!

Sigh.

Obviously.

But nobody can safely do any of that now. You do realize that, right?

And you do realize that lots of people who take land based trips to the Caribbean typically stay put at resorts, right? Are their trips more authentic?

Nobody is venturing on tours in Haiti now. It’s just not safe. But Labadee is safe. And you absolutely get a taste of the beauty there. You just do. Unless you’ve been there, how could you possibly know? FYI: they have some historic ruins at Labadee along with cultural docents.

FTR, I have traveled extensively and I prefer off the beaten path destinations. I strive to eat where the locals go. I’m not one to plop down at a resort unless I’m taking a relaxing vacation. But I’m also not one to openly criticize others who travel differently or those who take cruises.

I hope the op goes to Labadee. I had a fantastic day there last year. So relaxing. My kids really enjoyed swimming there and even they commented on how gorgeous the location is in terms of gardens and the tropical, mountainous backdrop.

I’ve done it all in the last year. What are you talking about that it’s not possible?! Try traveling not on a cruise ship sometime!

Wait, you are saying you have toured Port-au-Prince in the last year? I don't believe that for a second.

Yes.

What were you there for? I’m black with a ton of Haitian friends that still have family (and spouses!) in Haiti, and not a single one is visiting Haiti anytime soon.

So I find it really difficult, if not impossible, to believe that an internet rando from DCUM is visiting the place just for kicks.

State your reasons for visiting.

PP here who asked the question and keeps stupidly responding. This is obviously a troll and I know I shouldn't have responded.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster who has been labeled as the cruising apologist. Lol.

My Haitian friends and coworkers haven’t visited Haiti in years. It’s not safe, and they say they would be targets.

No American can safely travel to Haiti right now unless they arrive by ship to Labadee. That’s a fact.

Yes, Labadee is far removed and protected from the rampant violence further south.

I disagree that it isn’t an authentic experience. You will see the lush beauty of the beaches fronting the tropical mountains, swim in the ocean, and interact with locals working onsite.

What would you get at a Haitian resort? The only difference I see is risk.

Wow. Just wow. You really think an afternoon in Labadee is an “authentic experience” in Haiti? It is not. An “authentic experience” would be visiting the Sans Souci Palace ruins and the Citadelle only an hour away. An “authentic experience” would be touring Port au Prince and leaning about Haitian history and art. An “authentic experience” would be a visit to Jacmel. Locking white tourists up on a beach on the north coast of Haiti where their only interactions with local Haitians are those hand selected by Royal Caribbean and who pay RC a commission for the privilege is not an “authentic experience.” You are delusional to the point of absurdity, you do know that right??!!

Sigh.

Obviously.

But nobody can safely do any of that now. You do realize that, right?

And you do realize that lots of people who take land based trips to the Caribbean typically stay put at resorts, right? Are their trips more authentic?

Nobody is venturing on tours in Haiti now. It’s just not safe. But Labadee is safe. And you absolutely get a taste of the beauty there. You just do. Unless you’ve been there, how could you possibly know? FYI: they have some historic ruins at Labadee along with cultural docents.

FTR, I have traveled extensively and I prefer off the beaten path destinations. I strive to eat where the locals go. I’m not one to plop down at a resort unless I’m taking a relaxing vacation. But I’m also not one to openly criticize others who travel differently or those who take cruises.

I hope the op goes to Labadee. I had a fantastic day there last year. So relaxing. My kids really enjoyed swimming there and even they commented on how gorgeous the location is in terms of gardens and the tropical, mountainous backdrop.

I’ve done it all in the last year. What are you talking about that it’s not possible?! Try traveling not on a cruise ship sometime!

Wait, you are saying you have toured Port-au-Prince in the last year? I don't believe that for a second.

Yes.

What were you there for? I’m black with a ton of Haitian friends that still have family (and spouses!) in Haiti, and not a single one is visiting Haiti anytime soon.

So I find it really difficult, if not impossible, to believe that an internet rando from DCUM is visiting the place just for kicks.

State your reasons for visiting.

Tourism. History, art, culture. Haiti excels in all three areas. You should try it sometime! It’s really not as scary as the US media would have you believe. Quick and easy flights from Miami and FLL.

Where did you stay and what did you eat? Who did you travel with?