4 years of language or band

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In order to take a double period AP Biology class senior year, DD needs to drop either Spanish or band. Is it better to have four years of language, terminating in Honors Spanish 4, or four years of band, terminating in Wind Ensemble? If she keeps both, she’d need to take Health in summer school, which she really doesn’t want to do.

She wants to study Biology or Environmental Science in college.


Better for what?
For college admissions, it doesn't matter.

For your your daughter (remember her?), whichever she cares more about.

Learning language in school is completely useless. No one learns language in school. You learn language and immersion.

You can't do band on your own.



Find to prefer band but I disagree that language in h.s. is useless. Agree that immersion is crucial but high school and college language might be what gets you to a good enough place to participate in that immersion experience, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In order to take a double period AP Biology class senior year, DD needs to drop either Spanish or band. Is it better to have four years of language, terminating in Honors Spanish 4, or four years of band, terminating in Wind Ensemble? If she keeps both, she’d need to take Health in summer school, which she really doesn’t want to do.

She wants to study Biology or Environmental Science in college.


Better for what?
For college admissions, it doesn't matter.

For your your daughter (remember her?), whichever she cares more about.

Learning language in school is completely useless. No one learns language in school. You learn language and immersion.

You can't do band on your own.



Find to prefer band but I disagree that language in h.s. is useless. Agree that immersion is crucial but high school and college language might be what gets you to a good enough place to participate in that immersion experience, etc.


I started a new language in college and it worked out fine for me. I was able to study abroad in a country associated with that language.

The OP’s daughter can take a language in college if she so chooses and she can still take advantage of study abroad opportunities.

Harder to play in Band in college.

Playing music is complicated and uses all different parts of the brain. Plus, it’s a fantastic experience in high school.

But, really, only OP’s daughter should be the one deciding what she prefers.
Anonymous
OP here and for those asking, DD is way more into music than language. She hopes to study biology in college, which is why we’re in this predicament. She just decided she wants to take AP Biology, a double period, and that has messed with her schedule.
Anonymous
I took three years of French in HS, Latin senior year, and tested into an advanced French class in college. I’d stick with band senior year and drop Spanish. Not all colleges require four years. Maryland requires two.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here and for those asking, DD is way more into music than language. She hopes to study biology in college, which is why we’re in this predicament. She just decided she wants to take AP Biology, a double period, and that has messed with her schedule.


I think you have your answer OP! Let her stick with what she enjoys in this case.

If she ever 'needs' to get up to speed with a language, she can always go hard on DuoLingo or something like that.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here and for those asking, DD is way more into music than language. She hopes to study biology in college, which is why we’re in this predicament. She just decided she wants to take AP Biology, a double period, and that has messed with her schedule.


I think you have your answer OP! Let her stick with what she enjoys in this case.

If she ever 'needs' to get up to speed with a language, she can always go hard on DuoLingo or something like that.




+1 (and I’m very pro Spanish! But band sounds right for her)
Anonymous
Check out the Pathways to Graduation online classes that run during the school year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In order to take a double period AP Biology class senior year, DD needs to drop either Spanish or band. Is it better to have four years of language, terminating in Honors Spanish 4, or four years of band, terminating in Wind Ensemble? If she keeps both, she’d need to take Health in summer school, which she really doesn’t want to do.

She wants to study Biology or Environmental Science in college.


Better for what?
For college admissions, it doesn't matter.

For your your daughter (remember her?), whichever she cares more about.

Learning language in school is completely useless. No one learns language in school. You learn language and immersion.

You can't do band on your own.



Umm … having a foundation for a language in school is pretty helpful though.

The extent of ignorance on this thread is astonishing.


No. We’re not ignorant simply because we disagree with you.

You think that learning a language in school is more fulfilling. I think that playing in a musical ensemble in school is more fulfilling.

Either way, it doesn’t really matter. What matters is what OP’s kid finds more fulfilling/rewarding.


No. I think both are fulfilling. I am a musician and played music throughout high school as my main extracurricular. I also took 4 years of a foreign language.

It’s actually possible to love both.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In order to take a double period AP Biology class senior year, DD needs to drop either Spanish or band. Is it better to have four years of language, terminating in Honors Spanish 4, or four years of band, terminating in Wind Ensemble? If she keeps both, she’d need to take Health in summer school, which she really doesn’t want to do.

She wants to study Biology or Environmental Science in college.


Better for what?
For college admissions, it doesn't matter.

For your your daughter (remember her?), whichever she cares more about.

Learning language in school is completely useless. No one learns language in school. You learn language and immersion.

You can't do band on your own.



Umm … having a foundation for a language in school is pretty helpful though.

The extent of ignorance on this thread is astonishing.


No. We’re not ignorant simply because we disagree with you.

You think that learning a language in school is more fulfilling. I think that playing in a musical ensemble in school is more fulfilling.

Either way, it doesn’t really matter. What matters is what OP’s kid finds more fulfilling/rewarding.


No. I think both are fulfilling. I am a musician and played music throughout high school as my main extracurricular. I also took 4 years of a foreign language.

It’s actually possible to love both.


And I agree with you. It’s possible to love both languages and music. I took French and Spanish and played the clarinet through college.

But MCPS implements scheduling conflicts so that the OP’s daughter needs to choose one.

In OP’s case, it sounds like SHE (not you) enjoys music better. Probably Band would be better for her mental health and her whole self. If she doesn’t love Spanish, why push it?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In order to take a double period AP Biology class senior year, DD needs to drop either Spanish or band. Is it better to have four years of language, terminating in Honors Spanish 4, or four years of band, terminating in Wind Ensemble? If she keeps both, she’d need to take Health in summer school, which she really doesn’t want to do.

She wants to study Biology or Environmental Science in college.


Better for what?
For college admissions, it doesn't matter.

For your your daughter (remember her?), whichever she cares more about.

Learning language in school is completely useless. No one learns language in school. You learn language and immersion.

You can't do band on your own.



Umm … having a foundation for a language in school is pretty helpful though.

The extent of ignorance on this thread is astonishing.


No. We’re not ignorant simply because we disagree with you.

You think that learning a language in school is more fulfilling. I think that playing in a musical ensemble in school is more fulfilling.

Either way, it doesn’t really matter. What matters is what OP’s kid finds more fulfilling/rewarding.


No. I think both are fulfilling. I am a musician and played music throughout high school as my main extracurricular. I also took 4 years of a foreign language.

It’s actually possible to love both.


And I agree with you. It’s possible to love both languages and music. I took French and Spanish and played the clarinet through college.

But MCPS implements scheduling conflicts so that the OP’s daughter needs to choose one.

In OP’s case, it sounds like SHE (not you) enjoys music better. Probably Band would be better for her mental health and her whole self. If she doesn’t love Spanish, why push it?


OP said she could do both and just do Health over the summer. Seems like the obvious choice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here and for those asking, DD is way more into music than language. She hopes to study biology in college, which is why we’re in this predicament. She just decided she wants to take AP Biology, a double period, and that has messed with her schedule.


I think you have your answer OP! Let her stick with what she enjoys in this case.

If she ever 'needs' to get up to speed with a language, she can always go hard on DuoLingo or something like that.




DuoLingo? What a joke. You have no knowledge of language instruction.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In order to take a double period AP Biology class senior year, DD needs to drop either Spanish or band. Is it better to have four years of language, terminating in Honors Spanish 4, or four years of band, terminating in Wind Ensemble? If she keeps both, she’d need to take Health in summer school, which she really doesn’t want to do.

She wants to study Biology or Environmental Science in college.


Better for what?
For college admissions, it doesn't matter.

For your your daughter (remember her?), whichever she cares more about.

Learning language in school is completely useless. No one learns language in school. You learn language and immersion.

You can't do band on your own.



Umm … having a foundation for a language in school is pretty helpful though.

The extent of ignorance on this thread is astonishing.


No. We’re not ignorant simply because we disagree with you.

You think that learning a language in school is more fulfilling. I think that playing in a musical ensemble in school is more fulfilling.

Either way, it doesn’t really matter. What matters is what OP’s kid finds more fulfilling/rewarding.


No. I think both are fulfilling. I am a musician and played music throughout high school as my main extracurricular. I also took 4 years of a foreign language.

It’s actually possible to love both.


And I agree with you. It’s possible to love both languages and music. I took French and Spanish and played the clarinet through college.

But MCPS implements scheduling conflicts so that the OP’s daughter needs to choose one.

In OP’s case, it sounds like SHE (not you) enjoys music better. Probably Band would be better for her mental health and her whole self. If she doesn’t love Spanish, why push it?


This is not an mcps issue but a parent and child who did not plan. You can knock out some graduation requirements in middle school and do health Ed in summer school for flexibility. Lots of kids in health Ed right now to make both happen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here and for those asking, DD is way more into music than language. She hopes to study biology in college, which is why we’re in this predicament. She just decided she wants to take AP Biology, a double period, and that has messed with her schedule.


I think you have your answer OP! Let her stick with what she enjoys in this case.

If she ever 'needs' to get up to speed with a language, she can always go hard on DuoLingo or something like that.




DuoLingo? What a joke. You have no knowledge of language instruction.


BS

Doing DuoLingo (or something similar) for the same amount of time daily that you are in a high school Spanish class is actually quite effective.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In order to take a double period AP Biology class senior year, DD needs to drop either Spanish or band. Is it better to have four years of language, terminating in Honors Spanish 4, or four years of band, terminating in Wind Ensemble? If she keeps both, she’d need to take Health in summer school, which she really doesn’t want to do.

She wants to study Biology or Environmental Science in college.


Better for what?
For college admissions, it doesn't matter.

For your your daughter (remember her?), whichever she cares more about.

Learning language in school is completely useless. No one learns language in school. You learn language and immersion.

You can't do band on your own.



Umm … having a foundation for a language in school is pretty helpful though.

The extent of ignorance on this thread is astonishing.


No. We’re not ignorant simply because we disagree with you.

You think that learning a language in school is more fulfilling. I think that playing in a musical ensemble in school is more fulfilling.

Either way, it doesn’t really matter. What matters is what OP’s kid finds more fulfilling/rewarding.


No. I think both are fulfilling. I am a musician and played music throughout high school as my main extracurricular. I also took 4 years of a foreign language.

It’s actually possible to love both.


And I agree with you. It’s possible to love both languages and music. I took French and Spanish and played the clarinet through college.

But MCPS implements scheduling conflicts so that the OP’s daughter needs to choose one.

In OP’s case, it sounds like SHE (not you) enjoys music better. Probably Band would be better for her mental health and her whole self. If she doesn’t love Spanish, why push it?


This is not an mcps issue but a parent and child who did not plan. You can knock out some graduation requirements in middle school and do health Ed in summer school for flexibility. Lots of kids in health Ed right now to make both happen.


Wow. You sound smug and bitter.

And you are wrong.

Health B was not offered last year in MCPS summer school. How could she have taken it?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In order to take a double period AP Biology class senior year, DD needs to drop either Spanish or band. Is it better to have four years of language, terminating in Honors Spanish 4, or four years of band, terminating in Wind Ensemble? If she keeps both, she’d need to take Health in summer school, which she really doesn’t want to do.

She wants to study Biology or Environmental Science in college.


Better for what?
For college admissions, it doesn't matter.

For your your daughter (remember her?), whichever she cares more about.

Learning language in school is completely useless. No one learns language in school. You learn language and immersion.

You can't do band on your own.



Umm … having a foundation for a language in school is pretty helpful though.

The extent of ignorance on this thread is astonishing.


No. We’re not ignorant simply because we disagree with you.

You think that learning a language in school is more fulfilling. I think that playing in a musical ensemble in school is more fulfilling.

Either way, it doesn’t really matter. What matters is what OP’s kid finds more fulfilling/rewarding.


No. I think both are fulfilling. I am a musician and played music throughout high school as my main extracurricular. I also took 4 years of a foreign language.

It’s actually possible to love both.


And I agree with you. It’s possible to love both languages and music. I took French and Spanish and played the clarinet through college.

But MCPS implements scheduling conflicts so that the OP’s daughter needs to choose one.

In OP’s case, it sounds like SHE (not you) enjoys music better. Probably Band would be better for her mental health and her whole self. If she doesn’t love Spanish, why push it?


This is not an mcps issue but a parent and child who did not plan. You can knock out some graduation requirements in middle school and do health Ed in summer school for flexibility. Lots of kids in health Ed right now to make both happen.


Wow. You sound smug and bitter.

And you are wrong.

Health B was not offered last year in MCPS summer school. How could she have taken it?


Smug and bitter? OP said child has not taken Health A or B. Ideally they would have taken Health A already and taken Health B this summer. Their failure to plan is not MCPS's fault.
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