The amazingness of The Bear

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Why did Carm break it off with Claire? Did he have some sort of crisis when he was stuck in the walk-in? Was that the "guilt" talking?


SPOILER for season 2




Like many kids who grew up with a verbally and emotionally abusive alcoholic parent, Carm doesn’t think he is capable of being in a normal relationship. He doesn’t think he deserves love. He is self sabotaging. He is stuck in a cage of his own making - he is the one who dropped the ball and forgot to call the repair person for the walk in door handle, and instead of blaming his own procrastination, he blames the phone call from Claire.

Unpopular opinion, but I thought that Claire was calling him too much during the very busy days leading up to the opening of the restaurant. And it was annoying how she insisted on going back into the kitchen on opening night when they had so much chaos going on. I needed this validation myself in relationships when I was younger and it is always the kiss of death, but even I knew not to bother someone when they had a lot going on.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SEASON 2 SPOILER:


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Why did Carm break it off with Claire? Did he have some sort of crisis when he was stuck in the walk-in? Was that the "guilt" talking?


SPOILER for season 2




Like many kids who grew up with a verbally and emotionally abusive alcoholic parent, Carm doesn’t think he is capable of being in a normal relationship. He doesn’t think he deserves love. He is self sabotaging. He is stuck in a cage of his own making - he is the one who dropped the ball and forgot to call the repair person for the walk in door handle, and instead of blaming his own procrastination, he blames the phone call from Claire.

Unpopular opinion, but I thought that Claire was calling him too much during the very busy days leading up to the opening of the restaurant. And it was annoying how she insisted on going back into the kitchen on opening night when they had so much chaos going on. I needed this validation myself in relationships when I was younger and it is always the kiss of death, but even I knew not to bother someone when they had a lot going on.



Agree. She was very sweet about it, but still contributed to his anxiety about losing focus on the work at a critical moment.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SEASON 2 SPOILER:


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Why did Carm break it off with Claire? Did he have some sort of crisis when he was stuck in the walk-in? Was that the "guilt" talking?


SPOILER for season 2




Like many kids who grew up with a verbally and emotionally abusive alcoholic parent, Carm doesn’t think he is capable of being in a normal relationship. He doesn’t think he deserves love. He is self sabotaging. He is stuck in a cage of his own making - he is the one who dropped the ball and forgot to call the repair person for the walk in door handle, and instead of blaming his own procrastination, he blames the phone call from Claire.

Unpopular opinion, but I thought that Claire was calling him too much during the very busy days leading up to the opening of the restaurant. And it was annoying how she insisted on going back into the kitchen on opening night when they had so much chaos going on. I needed this validation myself in relationships when I was younger and it is always the kiss of death, but even I knew not to bother someone when they had a lot going on.



Agree. She was very sweet about it, but still contributed to his anxiety about losing focus on the work at a critical moment.


Also agree -- I think she feeds on a chaotic environment (emergency phsyician -- ADHD maybe?) and she was trying to insert herself into the manicness of the moments leading up to the opening.
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Anonymous wrote:SEASON 2 SPOILER:

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Why did Carm break it off with Claire? Did he have some sort of crisis when he was stuck in the walk-in? Was that the "guilt" talking?


Carmy being trapped in the fridge is a metaphor of him being "put on ice" to cool down. He was working through his issues out loud and he had no idea Claire was on the other side of the door when he made the decision that she was impeding his ability to operate and manage the new restaurant. Ironically, being removed from the kitchen allowed the rest of the staff to step-up to the task and make amazing progress on their own, meaning maybe Carmy could have a personal life in addition to the restaurant.


+1

He had no idea she was there and wasn’t actively trying to break things off. But he was having an internal crisis in having two lifelong dreams (the girl he’s always had a crush on vs. opening his own restaurant) collide at the same time. It was nice to see the other characters able to step up while he was in the freezer. Richie has always seen himself as sort of nonessential but he held his own.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:SEASON 2 SPOILER:

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Why did Carm break it off with Claire? Did he have some sort of crisis when he was stuck in the walk-in? Was that the "guilt" talking?


SPOILER for season 2




Like many kids who grew up with a verbally and emotionally abusive alcoholic parent, Carm doesn’t think he is capable of being in a normal relationship. He doesn’t think he deserves love. He is self sabotaging. He is stuck in a cage of his own making - he is the one who dropped the ball and forgot to call the repair person for the walk in door handle, and instead of blaming his own procrastination, he blames the phone call from Claire.

Unpopular opinion, but I thought that Claire was calling him too much during the very busy days leading up to the opening of the restaurant. And it was annoying how she insisted on going back into the kitchen on opening night when they had so much chaos going on. I needed this validation myself in relationships when I was younger and it is always the kiss of death, but even I knew not to bother someone when they had a lot going on.


Oh yeah. Definitely. And he should have pulled back anyway. He was really checked out for the lead up to opening.
Anonymous
And that is why he gave her the wrong number when she bumped into him. He didn't trust himself to be able to handle two things at once. And he was kind of right. (A sane, well-adjusted person can do both. Not him.)

He had SO MUCH riding on this restaurant. So much effort. I don't think Claire understands that. It's like him showing up in the middle of ER to distract her, while she's triaging patients. How would that have worked out?
Anonymous
Finally finished season 2 yesterday and came here to say how amazing I found it. I'm not a frequent TV show watcher, but this one really pulled me in.

I found the intensity to be a plus. I also found myself just watching the characters, the casting was pretty amazing, imho, not a single person is generic, everyone has something unique/interesting/imperfect about them. I don't actually think the show is 100 percent realistic when it comes to restaurants, but it feels very true, if that makes sense?
Anonymous
I can't get through Season 1. Can I skip to Season 2? I really want to enjoy the JLC episode that everyone is raving about.
Anonymous
7 Fishes took me literal hours to watch. I kept having to pause and let myself calm down and bring my blood pressure down.

I come from a dysfunctional family with a mother a lot like Jamie Lee Curtis's character, so that episode was just one gigantic trigger after another for me.
Anonymous
I love it, but I worked in restaurants. It would be more fun if they had people dating. My vote is Sydney and Marcus. Restaurants are high intensity and loud. It’s not for everyone.
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Anonymous wrote:Nearing the end of season 2 and honestly if there was a s2 episode of the bear in my life every day I would be so so happy


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I love you!
Anonymous
I struggled with the yelling and dysfunctional family stuff but I’m so glad I stuck with it.

I love how so many of the characters experience amazing growth—personally and professionally.

RICH!!! The banana scene almost made me cry.

I’ve never worked in a restaurant and never want to but I loved learning more about the culture. The guy who trains Richie at the super high end restaurant was very powerful.
Anonymous
Whoever said they need The Bear in their life every day can be my new best friend. I finished S2 weeks ago and feel like I am grieving. I love this show so much.

But, thing 1 - they are not cousins. This is covered in S1. Family of choice, not of birth. Key theme throughout show.

Thing 2 - I agree that Claire was not giving him enough space, but I don’t think she wanted to go back into the kitchen. She was pressured to do so by Ritchie, which set up the end scene.

Thing 3 - it took me about a week to watch 7 Fishes. It was so intense and so stressful and so triggering that I could only do about 15 minutes at a time. But fab cameos and character development.

My very favorite scene in S2 is the last episode when Marcus is in the alley and he’s like “I think I have to fire you now?” So restaurant!
Anonymous
7 Fishes may be the best episode on TV ever.

Remind me why the chocolate banana was so meaningful?
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