SCOTUS on Student Loan 9 - 0

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans don’t like student loan forgiveness so the republicans on the Supreme Court struck it down. Just more partisan decisions. Nothing surprising.

No. Republicans have said all along that what Biden did was unConstitutional. Even Pelosi said the same (before she jumped on board the unConstitutional band wagon).
We just knew that is was executive overreach. Just like the rent moratorium.

These kinds of things need to go through Congress. He cannot unilaterally make such moves. Especially when it involves billions, if not trillions, of tax payer dollars.

Ok, so let's see the House GOP offer a bill reducing student loans to 1%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans don’t like student loan forgiveness so the republicans on the Supreme Court struck it down. Just more partisan decisions. Nothing surprising.

No. Republicans have said all along that what Biden did was unConstitutional. Even Pelosi said the same (before she jumped on board the unConstitutional band wagon).
We just knew that is was executive overreach. Just like the rent moratorium.

These kinds of things need to go through Congress. He cannot unilaterally make such moves. Especially when it involves billions, if not trillions, of tax payer dollars.

It did go through congress. The Heroes Act was passed by congress. But scotus made up a new rule a couple years ago called the major questions doctrine so that it can ignore laws it doesn’t like.

The HEROES Doctrine does not apply to Biden's overreach.

Read it. It does.

Yep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You mean I don’t have to pay for some millennial’s Masters degree in sustainability? Thank you SC!

They aren't going to pay it anyway. They'll just lower their credit score and delay entrance into the housing market for that much longer. Possibly delay having kids, which will ultimately reduce the number of workers in the economy and lower your standard of living in retirement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans don’t like student loan forgiveness so the republicans on the Supreme Court struck it down. Just more partisan decisions. Nothing surprising.

No. Republicans have said all along that what Biden did was unConstitutional. Even Pelosi said the same (before she jumped on board the unConstitutional band wagon).
We just knew that is was executive overreach. Just like the rent moratorium.

These kinds of things need to go through Congress. He cannot unilaterally make such moves. Especially when it involves billions, if not trillions, of tax payer dollars.

It did go through congress. The Heroes Act was passed by congress. But scotus made up a new rule a couple years ago called the major questions doctrine so that it can ignore laws it doesn’t like.

The HEROES Doctrine does not apply to Biden's overreach.

Read it. It does.

Well, you're not getting your loan forgiven.

That's your best response? FWIW, no, I'm not getting my loan forgiven because I already paid it off. That doesn't change the language of the HEROES Act, though, one way or the other.

Same here. Paid mine off 15 years ago. I also don’t really like the debt forgiveness plan. But I am appalled at the republican justices continued power grabs.

[Anonymous]

Biden loses again. Maybe he'll try working with Congress at some point.

[Anonymous]

Woo hoo!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Biden loses again. Maybe he'll try working with Congress at some point.

Congress? McConnell "No" and McCarthy "has successfully done 1 thing and that's it"? McConnell "I'll stack the Supreme Court anyway I can because I love my party more than my country"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans don’t like student loan forgiveness so the republicans on the Supreme Court struck it down. Just more partisan decisions. Nothing surprising.

No. Republicans have said all along that what Biden did was unConstitutional. Even Pelosi said the same (before she jumped on board the unConstitutional band wagon).
We just knew that is was executive overreach. Just like the rent moratorium.

These kinds of things need to go through Congress. He cannot unilaterally make such moves. Especially when it involves billions, if not trillions, of tax payer dollars.

It did go through congress. The Heroes Act was passed by congress. But scotus made up a new rule a couple years ago called the major questions doctrine so that it can ignore laws it doesn’t like.

The HEROES Doctrine does not apply to Biden's overreach.

Read it. It does.

Well, you're not getting your loan forgiven.

That's your best response? FWIW, no, I'm not getting my loan forgiven because I already paid it off. That doesn't change the language of the HEROES Act, though, one way or the other.

Same here. Paid mine off 15 years ago. I also don’t really like the debt forgiveness plan. But I am appalled at the republican justices continued power grabs.

Power grabs?

The public - and some of our elected officials - have become accustomed to judges and SCOTUS legislating from the bench. It is quite something that Congress is OK with the president using executive action for things that require legislation. They seem more than happy to allow SCOTUS to take away their role.
The role of SCOTUS is to determine what is Constitutional and what is not. It is NOT their role to write laws. They have acted appropriately. "Activism" would be making a law to satisfy activists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You mean I don’t have to pay for some millennial’s Masters degree in sustainability? Thank you SC!

lol, my thought exactly and I'm a millennial!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You mean I don’t have to pay for some millennial’s Masters degree in sustainability? Thank you SC!

They aren't going to pay it anyway. They'll just lower their credit score and delay entrance into the housing market for that much longer. Possibly delay having kids, which will ultimately reduce the number of workers in the economy and lower your standard of living in retirement.

So I can save and budget so that I don’t owe money on my college education but others should be rewarded for going into debt, and be able to just walk away? Why can’t everyone’s college education be free?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans don’t like student loan forgiveness so the republicans on the Supreme Court struck it down. Just more partisan decisions. Nothing surprising.

No. Republicans have said all along that what Biden did was unConstitutional. Even Pelosi said the same (before she jumped on board the unConstitutional band wagon).
We just knew that is was executive overreach. Just like the rent moratorium.

These kinds of things need to go through Congress. He cannot unilaterally make such moves. Especially when it involves billions, if not trillions, of tax payer dollars.

It did go through congress. The Heroes Act was passed by congress. But scotus made up a new rule a couple years ago called the major questions doctrine so that it can ignore laws it doesn’t like.

The HEROES Doctrine does not apply to Biden's overreach.

Boomer here ... went to state undergrad and law school with no loans/no parent's help. Worked all of the time. It is not even possible for people to do that anymore ... so I don't begrudge others getting loans to get much needed education. Shame on the tools complaining about people running into debt trouble...17-18 year olds have no idea of what they are getting into when they get those loans. Blame the adults in their lives...not them.

Read it. It does.

Well, you're not getting your loan forgiven.

That's your best response? FWIW, no, I'm not getting my loan forgiven because I already paid it off. That doesn't change the language of the HEROES Act, though, one way or the other.

Same here. Paid mine off 15 years ago. I also don’t really like the debt forgiveness plan. But I am appalled at the republican justices continued power grabs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans don’t like student loan forgiveness so the republicans on the Supreme Court struck it down. Just more partisan decisions. Nothing surprising.

No. Republicans have said all along that what Biden did was unConstitutional. Even Pelosi said the same (before she jumped on board the unConstitutional band wagon).
We just knew that is was executive overreach. Just like the rent moratorium.

These kinds of things need to go through Congress. He cannot unilaterally make such moves. Especially when it involves billions, if not trillions, of tax payer dollars.

It did go through congress. The Heroes Act was passed by congress. But scotus made up a new rule a couple years ago called the major questions doctrine so that it can ignore laws it doesn’t like.

The HEROES Doctrine does not apply to Biden's overreach.

Read it. It does.

Well, you're not getting your loan forgiven.

That's your best response? FWIW, no, I'm not getting my loan forgiven because I already paid it off. That doesn't change the language of the HEROES Act, though, one way or the other.

Same here. Paid mine off 15 years ago. I also don’t really like the debt forgiveness plan. But I am appalled at the republican justices continued power grabs.

Power grabs?

The public - and some of our elected officials - have become accustomed to judges and SCOTUS legislating from the bench. It is quite something that Congress is OK with the president using executive action for things that require legislation. They seem more than happy to allow SCOTUS to take away their role.
The role of SCOTUS is to determine what is Constitutional and what is not. It is NOT their role to write laws. They have acted appropriately. "Activism" would be making a law to satisfy activists.

It appears that your post is written to support this most-recent instance of SCOTUS rewritings laws written by Congress - while saying that you do not want SCOTUS to rewrite laws written by Congress.

Extreme cognitive dissonance? Trolling? Just ignorance?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans don’t like student loan forgiveness so the republicans on the Supreme Court struck it down. Just more partisan decisions. Nothing surprising.

No. Republicans have said all along that what Biden did was unConstitutional. Even Pelosi said the same (before she jumped on board the unConstitutional band wagon).
We just knew that is was executive overreach. Just like the rent moratorium.

These kinds of things need to go through Congress. He cannot unilaterally make such moves. Especially when it involves billions, if not trillions, of tax payer dollars.

It did go through congress. The Heroes Act was passed by congress. But scotus made up a new rule a couple years ago called the major questions doctrine so that it can ignore laws it doesn’t like.

The HEROES Doctrine does not apply to Biden's overreach.

Read it. It does.

Well, you're not getting your loan forgiven.

That's your best response? FWIW, no, I'm not getting my loan forgiven because I already paid it off. That doesn't change the language of the HEROES Act, though, one way or the other.

Same here. Paid mine off 15 years ago. I also don’t really like the debt forgiveness plan. But I am appalled at the republican justices continued power grabs.

Power grabs?

The public - and some of our elected officials - have become accustomed to judges and SCOTUS legislating from the bench. It is quite something that Congress is OK with the president using executive action for things that require legislation. They seem more than happy to allow SCOTUS to take away their role.
The role of SCOTUS is to determine what is Constitutional and what is not. It is NOT their role to write laws. They have acted appropriately. "Activism" would be making a law to satisfy activists.

They have decided to ignore a law passed by congress to satisfy activists. Seems activist to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You mean I don’t have to pay for some millennial’s Masters degree in sustainability? Thank you SC!

They aren't going to pay it anyway. They'll just lower their credit score and delay entrance into the housing market for that much longer. Possibly delay having kids, which will ultimately reduce the number of workers in the economy and lower your standard of living in retirement.

Sounds like a feedback loop that needs to be eliminated by not allowing this loan situation to happen in the first place. Crazy that thought.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You mean I don’t have to pay for some millennial’s Masters degree in sustainability? Thank you SC!

They aren't going to pay it anyway. They'll just lower their credit score and delay entrance into the housing market for that much longer. Possibly delay having kids, which will ultimately reduce the number of workers in the economy and lower your standard of living in retirement.

This is my sense of what will happen, too. Educated women are already putting off having kids--and marrying later (average age of marriage in US is now 30 y.o.). Fertility rates are dropping in the US (and elsewhere in the world). While there are multiple reasons for this, financial concerns are one big reason (being able to afford a home and daycare, for example).