Summer School -- WTF MCPS????

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Anonymous wrote:Why is he retaking it with those high grades?

He received a B and clearly knew the material.

I feel truly sorry for your child. You need to get a grip on reality.

DP. I personally wouldn’t let or make my child retake a class if there original grade was a B. But,To play devils advocate here, colleges are very competitive these days and every B hurts a child’s chances to get into the IVY’s. Maybe this B really effects the child’s chances?

Not if it is just one or two Bs on the transcript. My DC in a magnet program had 3 Bs on their transcript. Still got accepted to 3 ivies in 2020. They had such high overall academic strengths and high level of extracurricular involvement that a few Bs along the way didn't matter.

Another way to think about it is that if all you have going for you is your GPA, you aren't getting into Ivies anyway.

I would love for you to talk to my magnet kid. She has only one B, and has a very high level of extracurricular involvement but is convinced she won't get into anyplace other than UMdCP based on what she saw happen in the last couple of years to her friends applying. Everyone she knows who got into Ivies either was a recruited athlete, a legacy, or was on the School Board.

DP. Your kid isn’t totally wrong. This past couple of years the ivy college admission rates for non hooked students is abysmal. Throw in students that are minorities and first generation college students and chances are slim!

Mathematically, this is what happens, when there is a large number of applicants for a small number of spots.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is he retaking it with those high grades?

He received a B and clearly knew the material.

I feel truly sorry for your child. You need to get a grip on reality.

DP. I personally wouldn’t let or make my child retake a class if there original grade was a B. But,To play devils advocate here, colleges are very competitive these days and every B hurts a child’s chances to get into the IVY’s. Maybe this B really effects the child’s chances?

Not if it is just one or two Bs on the transcript. My DC in a magnet program had 3 Bs on their transcript. Still got accepted to 3 ivies in 2020. They had such high overall academic strengths and high level of extracurricular involvement that a few Bs along the way didn't matter.

Another way to think about it is that if all you have going for you is your GPA, you aren't getting into Ivies anyway.

I would love for you to talk to my magnet kid. She has only one B, and has a very high level of extracurricular involvement but is convinced she won't get into anyplace other than UMdCP based on what she saw happen in the last couple of years to her friends applying. Everyone she knows who got into Ivies either was a recruited athlete, a legacy, or was on the School Board.

Where are you posting from? No one here calls it UMdCP! And only one student at a time sits on the school board and we all call him or her the SMOB.

Anyway, your alleged MCPS kid would be lucky to get into UMD. Many magnet students with one B do not. UMD would rather get an out of state kid.

Posting from MoCo where I’ve lived for 12 years! I know it’s called the SMOB but didn’t think most people would know that acronym. (The SMOBs from the last couple years had multiple Ivy admits so it does inflate the Ivy admits a little,). I do think people. All it UMDCP now to distinguish it from UMDGC — there’s more than one UMD that is a viable option now for kids. I have a general pet peeve on DcUm when people accuse you of not being local because you use slightly different terminology than they use themselves. It’s like you cant conceive that there might be someone slightly different from you that uses different words or has a different experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is he retaking it with those high grades?

He received a B and clearly knew the material.

I feel truly sorry for your child. You need to get a grip on reality.

DP. I personally wouldn’t let or make my child retake a class if there original grade was a B. But,To play devils advocate here, colleges are very competitive these days and every B hurts a child’s chances to get into the IVY’s. Maybe this B really effects the child’s chances?

Not if it is just one or two Bs on the transcript. My DC in a magnet program had 3 Bs on their transcript. Still got accepted to 3 ivies in 2020. They had such high overall academic strengths and high level of extracurricular involvement that a few Bs along the way didn't matter.

Another way to think about it is that if all you have going for you is your GPA, you aren't getting into Ivies anyway.

I would love for you to talk to my magnet kid. She has only one B, and has a very high level of extracurricular involvement but is convinced she won't get into anyplace other than UMdCP based on what she saw happen in the last couple of years to her friends applying. Everyone she knows who got into Ivies either was a recruited athlete, a legacy, or was on the School Board.

Where are you posting from? No one here calls it UMdCP! And only one student at a time sits on the school board and we all call him or her the SMOB.

Anyway, your alleged MCPS kid would be lucky to get into UMD. Many magnet students with one B do not. UMD would rather get an out of state kid.

Posting from MoCo where I’ve lived for 12 years! I know it’s called the SMOB but didn’t think most people would know that acronym. (The SMOBs from the last couple years had multiple Ivy admits so it does inflate the Ivy admits a little,). I do think people. All it UMDCP now to distinguish it from UMDGC — there’s more than one UMD that is a viable option now for kids. I have a general pet peeve on DcUm when people accuse you of not being local because you use slightly different terminology than they use themselves. It’s like you cant conceive that there might be someone slightly different from you that uses different words or has a different experience.

Its a narrow perspective and one you shouldn't have to defend yourself from.

[Anonymous]

I think reviewing math in the summer to fill in gaps is great, but bumping one letter grade in geometry isn't where it's at. Focus more on preparing for algebra 2, precalc, and AP calc.

And if the kid is cheating instead of studying, what needs fixing is the attitude.

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Anonymous wrote:I think reviewing math in the summer to fill in gaps is great, but bumping one letter grade in geometry isn't where it's at. Focus more on preparing for algebra 2, precalc, and AP calc.

And if the kid is cheating instead of studying, what needs fixing is the attitude.

I highly doubt her kid was cheating if he was getting a B to begin with. She left that little detail out in her original post. In fact in her original post she claimed her kid "failed" the first time. She thinks a B is failing.... They were probably socializing...because they were bored in the first place with material THEY ALREADY UNDERSTOOD THE FIRST TIME AROUND. This lady sounds completely unhinged.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think reviewing math in the summer to fill in gaps is great, but bumping one letter grade in geometry isn't where it's at. Focus more on preparing for algebra 2, precalc, and AP calc.

And if the kid is cheating instead of studying, what needs fixing is the attitude.

I highly doubt her kid was cheating if he was getting a B to begin with. She left that little detail out in her original post. In fact in her original post she claimed her kid "failed" the first time. She thinks a B is failing.... They were probably socializing...because they were bored in the first place with material THEY ALREADY UNDERSTOOD THE FIRST TIME AROUND. This lady sounds completely unhinged.

The obvious thing for OP to do is to supervise him on a geometry test at home, like a algebra 2 summer math packets or some homeschool placement test or Khan academy, and tell him if he passes her standard then he's done with summer school geometry. That rules out cheating.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think reviewing math in the summer to fill in gaps is great, but bumping one letter grade in geometry isn't where it's at. Focus more on preparing for algebra 2, precalc, and AP calc.

And if the kid is cheating instead of studying, what needs fixing is the attitude.

I highly doubt her kid was cheating if he was getting a B to begin with. She left that little detail out in her original post. In fact in her original post she claimed her kid "failed" the first time. She thinks a B is failing.... They were probably socializing...because they were bored in the first place with material THEY ALREADY UNDERSTOOD THE FIRST TIME AROUND. This lady sounds completely unhinged.

Those were two different people. Why respond if you aren’t going to bother reading the posts?
Agree the B student shouldnt be retaking the class.

OP’s son failed math and was placed in in-person summer school. In person classes this year are only open to those who failed, due to budget cuts. It’s zoom school for everyone else. Otherwise how could he spend the class talking to others? That’s not happening in the CHS zoom sessions.

OP, I think you need a tutor. Summer school doesn’t sound like it’s helping him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think reviewing math in the summer to fill in gaps is great, but bumping one letter grade in geometry isn't where it's at. Focus more on preparing for algebra 2, precalc, and AP calc.

And if the kid is cheating instead of studying, what needs fixing is the attitude.

I highly doubt her kid was cheating if he was getting a B to begin with. She left that little detail out in her original post. In fact in her original post she claimed her kid "failed" the first time. She thinks a B is failing.... They were probably socializing...because they were bored in the first place with material THEY ALREADY UNDERSTOOD THE FIRST TIME AROUND. This lady sounds completely unhinged.

Those were two different people. Why respond if you aren’t going to bother reading the posts?
Agree the B student shouldnt be retaking the class.

OP’s son failed math and was placed in in-person summer school. In person classes this year are only open to those who failed, due to budget cuts. It’s zoom school for everyone else. Otherwise how could he spend the class talking to others? That’s not happening in the CHS zoom sessions.

OP, I think you need a tutor. Summer school doesn’t sound like it’s helping him.

OP's kid is in Zoom school, therefore, they didn't fail. Why can't you bother to read posts?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think reviewing math in the summer to fill in gaps is great, but bumping one letter grade in geometry isn't where it's at. Focus more on preparing for algebra 2, precalc, and AP calc.

And if the kid is cheating instead of studying, what needs fixing is the attitude.

I highly doubt her kid was cheating if he was getting a B to begin with. She left that little detail out in her original post. In fact in her original post she claimed her kid "failed" the first time. She thinks a B is failing.... They were probably socializing...because they were bored in the first place with material THEY ALREADY UNDERSTOOD THE FIRST TIME AROUND. This lady sounds completely unhinged.

Those were two different people. Why respond if you aren’t going to bother reading the posts?
Agree the B student shouldnt be retaking the class.

OP’s son failed math and was placed in in-person summer school. In person classes this year are only open to those who failed, due to budget cuts. It’s zoom school for everyone else. Otherwise how could he spend the class talking to others? That’s not happening in the CHS zoom sessions.

OP, I think you need a tutor. Summer school doesn’t sound like it’s helping him.

OP's kid is in Zoom school, therefore, they didn't fail. Why can't you bother to read posts?

There are different options throughout the county. My child is taking honors geometry as an original class in person at his home school. He really likes the teacher and is not complaining about the crazy hours- yet- which is good because he really struggled with Zoom and would not have been able to be successful with a virtual class. They are taking quizzes daily and working on daily packets (that seem to equate to about a week of regular math class). They have not logged into Chromebooks yet, though they are expected to bring them. The teacher is one of the strongest at the school and I see the same dedication here at summer school. I think it is great if kids who failed are offered an in-person option, but I would hope that it would be similar to the model I am describing and not what the OP described. Also, they are only allowed 1 ansence through the session to earn the credit.

[Anonymous]

Your kid failed a class and you don’t know why? Do they not understand? Did they not turn in work? Did they not do the work?

[Anonymous]

NP here. I didn't realize that central summer school was done by a third-party platform and did not have live teaching sessions. Is that true of all the classes, even ones that kids take for original credit like health?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here. I didn't realize that central summer school was done by a third-party platform and did not have live teaching sessions. Is that true of all the classes, even ones that kids take for original credit like health?

Central summer school has live sessions 3x per week. Some teachers do a better job presenting material during those live sessions than others. In addition to live sessions, central summer school offers in-person drop in hours 2x per week at central locations in the County for live in-person consultation with a teacher. In addition, there are several assignments, modules, tests done online.

[Anonymous]

Did MCPS offer online summer school before Covid?

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Anonymous wrote:This is online summer school. Sorry YOU signed up for the wrong one and you're blaming MCPS.

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OP - online summer school isn't virtual academy with live instruction every day. The course are provided using Edmentum software (I think). There is instruction - in the online course. It is designed to be asynchronous. There will be readings and videos embedded and then concept practice (similar to Khan Academy). Of course, kids will skimp on actually doing the readings and videos to learn the material and just do the practice assignments, googling for answers.

The opportunity for live instruction happened during the school year. Summer school courses are designed for kids that failed a course to be able to earn credit by demonstrating some engagement and minimal understanding of the material. If you and/or your student really are invested in learning ... then don't squander the opportunity during the school year.

How do you know all of this? My kid is retaking a class because teacher gave tough tests with material not covered in class with insufficient time. Received 88 and 89 both quarters.

And you think summer school is going to have sufficient time? The curriculum essentially needs to condense one week of class into a day. You are essentially banking on the summer class being easier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did MCPS offer online summer school before Covid?

Yes, my kid took online health in like 2018. There were two required in-person sessions at that time-- one was the final exam. I'm sure covid accelerated things, but they had virtual options independent of covid.