What was your UNHOOKED Big3 senior's GPA and what type of school are they attending in the fall?

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Anonymous wrote:Cornell loves public school kids. Applied from both public and private. Public school kid less impressive academically at Jackson Reed vs. my private school kid. Cornell took the JR one Potomac. This happens too often.

Cornell took a lot of JR kids this year.

It will be interesting to see how the JR kids do in general at college (not specifically this cohort but the grade at large). there are some true rockstars but also lots of kids who got straight As for not doing much of anything. they were the benefactors of Covid grading (no grades given less than a B for kids who turned in anything during those 18 months) and those standards have not really returned to normal since. grades remain crazily inflated. This mostly just hurts the high achievers at JR because the pool of top students is diluted with kids who don't belong there. It will be interesting to see if their performance at college impacts future admissions.
Signed, JR and private school parent

Oh please - we can all say the same about our private school and covid and the insane amount of outside "help" these kids got from parents and tutors. In my son's class at Sidwell, every project done is part parent's effort. Wonder if these kids are brining their parents to college. We refuse to play that game and complained once to teachers and they said they can't stop it but the do know it happens.

This is interesting. We are Sidwell parents and we have never participated in our child's work. We don't even know or see what they do. The go to school, they get their grades, we see no homework, no written work (not even AFTER), no tests - EVER.

NP. Unclear if you’re in upper school yet but my PhD IMF coworker basically relived high school with his two sFS kids, who did very well there.
But he did so much of their math and science and then taught them it, it was the office joke.
The dumber thing was all the sfs peer parents were in awe that the older kid “never had any tutors” like everyone else did.

FYI the tutoring was because too much work was assigned and the student was responsible for considerably more material than was ever covered in class.

And fyi, one went Ivy for ugrad and grad; did very well. Other went T25
Dad was bored out of his mind then and played more iMf racquetball at lunch.

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Anonymous wrote:Very good GPA for rigorous Big3 (3.7), strong (but not tippy top) SATs at 1490 and strong ECs. Did not have a great college outcomes. Got into one Top 50 school and several Top 100s. Waitlisted at many places - very few rejections. Chose one of the Top 100s.

Did they apply early decision anywhere? Sorry the outcomes weren’t great. Your child sounds very bright. Once upon a time in semi recent history people got into ivies with those stats.

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Yes. Did ED at Reach (waitlisted) and ED2 at Target (waitlisted) all within recommendation of college counselor. Feels like kid did all the right things.

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Anonymous wrote:Multiple very strong unhooked kids to Chicago (this year and last). More ED2 but also RD.
Chicago still seems to like the Big3, especially Sidwell.

They like STA too.

But not everyone is interested in going to college in Chicago ….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cornell loves public school kids. Applied from both public and private. Public school kid less impressive academically at Jackson Reed vs. my private school kid. Cornell took the JR one Potomac. This happens too often.

Cornell took a lot of JR kids this year.

It will be interesting to see how the JR kids do in general at college (not specifically this cohort but the grade at large). there are some true rockstars but also lots of kids who got straight As for not doing much of anything. they were the benefactors of Covid grading (no grades given less than a B for kids who turned in anything during those 18 months) and those standards have not really returned to normal since. grades remain crazily inflated. This mostly just hurts the high achievers at JR because the pool of top students is diluted with kids who don't belong there. It will be interesting to see if their performance at college impacts future admissions.
Signed, JR and private school parent

Oh please - we can all say the same about our private school and covid and the insane amount of outside "help" these kids got from parents and tutors. In my son's class at Sidwell, every project done is part parent's effort. Wonder if these kids are brining their parents to college. We refuse to play that game and complained once to teachers and they said they can't stop it but the do know it happens.

This is interesting. We are Sidwell parents and we have never participated in our child's work. We don't even know or see what they do. The go to school, they get their grades, we see no homework, no written work (not even AFTER), no tests - EVER.

NP. Unclear if you’re in upper school yet but my PhD IMF coworker basically relived high school with his two sFS kids, who did very well there.
But he did so much of their math and science and then taught them it, it was the office joke.
The dumber thing was all the sfs peer parents were in awe that the older kid “never had any tutors” like everyone else did.

FYI the tutoring was because too much work was assigned and the student was responsible for considerably more material than was ever covered in class.

And fyi, one went Ivy for ugrad and grad; did very well. Other went T25
Dad was bored out of his mind then and played more iMf racquetball at lunch.

I’m the PP and our child was only there for HS and was in top rigor courses working independently with no parent or tutor involvement. Agreed that self learning was required for those courses and lots of work.

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Multiple very strong unhooked kids to Chicago (this year and last). More ED2 but also RD.
Chicago still seems to like the Big3, especially Sidwell.

This will probably change this year, as UChicago will have a new admissions representative for this area.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Multiple very strong unhooked kids to Chicago (this year and last). More ED2 but also RD.
Chicago still seems to like the Big3, especially Sidwell.

They like STA too.

But not everyone is interested in going to college in Chicago ….

City wise, isn't it considered an upgrade by most in the US to DC, Philly, or Boston? It also seems like a great college city with a lot going on.
Even with the fear of violence that persists, I think it is generally preferred to "the swamp."
I guess the midwest coast isn't for everyone though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cornell loves public school kids. Applied from both public and private. Public school kid less impressive academically at Jackson Reed vs. my private school kid. Cornell took the JR one Potomac. This happens too often.

Cornell took a lot of JR kids this year.

It will be interesting to see how the JR kids do in general at college (not specifically this cohort but the grade at large). there are some true rockstars but also lots of kids who got straight As for not doing much of anything. they were the benefactors of Covid grading (no grades given less than a B for kids who turned in anything during those 18 months) and those standards have not really returned to normal since. grades remain crazily inflated. This mostly just hurts the high achievers at JR because the pool of top students is diluted with kids who don't belong there. It will be interesting to see if their performance at college impacts future admissions.
Signed, JR and private school parent

This is such a lie. Why do people keep continuing this lie about JR. During COVID, you couldn’t get less than a D when turning things in. Not a B.

Jackson Reed and Deal parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cornell loves public school kids. Applied from both public and private. Public school kid less impressive academically at Jackson Reed vs. my private school kid. Cornell took the JR one Potomac. This happens too often.

Cornell took a lot of JR kids this year.

It will be interesting to see how the JR kids do in general at college (not specifically this cohort but the grade at large). there are some true rockstars but also lots of kids who got straight As for not doing much of anything. they were the benefactors of Covid grading (no grades given less than a B for kids who turned in anything during those 18 months) and those standards have not really returned to normal since. grades remain crazily inflated. This mostly just hurts the high achievers at JR because the pool of top students is diluted with kids who don't belong there. It will be interesting to see if their performance at college impacts future admissions.
Signed, JR and private school parent

This is such a lie. Why do people keep continuing this lie about JR. During COVID, you couldn’t get less than a D when turning things in. Not a B.

Jackson Reed and Deal parent

no, you are lying. It was nothing less than a B. I will post the policy later--currently in my phone and won't be able to find it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cornell loves public school kids. Applied from both public and private. Public school kid less impressive academically at Jackson Reed vs. my private school kid. Cornell took the JR one Potomac. This happens too often.

Cornell took a lot of JR kids this year.

It will be interesting to see how the JR kids do in general at college (not specifically this cohort but the grade at large). there are some true rockstars but also lots of kids who got straight As for not doing much of anything. they were the benefactors of Covid grading (no grades given less than a B for kids who turned in anything during those 18 months) and those standards have not really returned to normal since. grades remain crazily inflated. This mostly just hurts the high achievers at JR because the pool of top students is diluted with kids who don't belong there. It will be interesting to see if their performance at college impacts future admissions.
Signed, JR and private school parent

Oh please - we can all say the same about our private school and covid and the insane amount of outside "help" these kids got from parents and tutors. In my son's class at Sidwell, every project done is part parent's effort. Wonder if these kids are brining their parents to college. We refuse to play that game and complained once to teachers and they said they can't stop it but the do know it happens.

Hih, this has not been my kid's experience at the Cathedral high schools. My son is always up doing group projects and similar between 10pm and 2am. No parents involved.

Same experience as Cathedrals poster but with two DCs at Sidwell. Both had 3.75+ GPAs with heavy sports and ECs. Plus commutes 3x most kids. First never had a tutor. Second had one for a semester in one of the “a” sciences classes. There are kids who work and have discipline. Both at top 25s.

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Anonymous wrote:Your kids all sound NII great. Those GPAs at a Big 3 are incredible and you should all be proud!

Here’s the issue with Big3 GPAs even 3.8+ … they don’t seem high when you have public school kids getting up to 4.5 — in fact, they seem low especially at the larger state magnets (Berkeley / UCLA / Michigan / UVA / Texas) where it’s impossible not be just a number. The Big3s will tell you that all the admissions teams at the colleges know how rigorous they are and what their grade ranges are but guess what: they really don’t — it’s impossible when reviewing hundreds or thousands of apps that ultimately start looking the same to keep that in mind even if you heard it once or twice in passing.

Parents of Big3 kids need to internalize this, keep it in mind, and move on …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Multiple very strong unhooked kids to Chicago (this year and last). More ED2 but also RD.
Chicago still seems to like the Big3, especially Sidwell.

This will probably change this year, as UChicago will have a new admissions representative for this area.

Nah, it probably won’t. Why would U of C fix what isn’t broken? Sidwell graduates clearly do well at the college, so it would be stupid for U of C to reduce qualified Sidwell admits.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your kids all sound NII great. Those GPAs at a Big 3 are incredible and you should all be proud!

Here’s the issue with Big3 GPAs even 3.8+ … they don’t seem high when you have public school kids getting up to 4.5 — in fact, they seem low especially at the larger state magnets (Berkeley / UCLA / Michigan / UVA / Texas) where it’s impossible not be just a number. The Big3s will tell you that all the admissions teams at the colleges know how rigorous they are and what their grade ranges are but guess what: they really don’t — it’s impossible when reviewing hundreds or thousands of apps that ultimately start looking the same to keep that in mind even if you heard it once or twice in passing.

Parents of Big3 kids need to internalize this, keep it in mind, and move on …

This year, every Big 3 is sending students to UC Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, and UVA (who the hell wants to go to UT from DC?!?).

None of these students have above a 4.0 because there are no APs/weighted grades at the Big 3 schools. What lie are you going to tell next?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your kids all sound NII great. Those GPAs at a Big 3 are incredible and you should all be proud!

Here’s the issue with Big3 GPAs even 3.8+ … they don’t seem high when you have public school kids getting up to 4.5 — in fact, they seem low especially at the larger state magnets (Berkeley / UCLA / Michigan / UVA / Texas) where it’s impossible not be just a number. The Big3s will tell you that all the admissions teams at the colleges know how rigorous they are and what their grade ranges are but guess what: they really don’t — it’s impossible when reviewing hundreds or thousands of apps that ultimately start looking the same to keep that in mind even if you heard it once or twice in passing.

Parents of Big3 kids need to internalize this, keep it in mind, and move on …

All colleges recalculate GPAs so that they’re able to make an apples to apples comparison. The public school student’s inflated GPA will be compared to the (Big 3) private school student’s GPA using the same scale. That’s why Sidwell, GDS, and the Cathedral schools are sending graduates to the aforementioned colleges this year.

[Anonymous]

I help with math with my Big3 kid. Cheaper than all the tutors everyone else has. Guessing i'll be bored too when it's done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your kids all sound NII great. Those GPAs at a Big 3 are incredible and you should all be proud!

Here’s the issue with Big3 GPAs even 3.8+ … they don’t seem high when you have public school kids getting up to 4.5 — in fact, they seem low especially at the larger state magnets (Berkeley / UCLA / Michigan / UVA / Texas) where it’s impossible not be just a number. The Big3s will tell you that all the admissions teams at the colleges know how rigorous they are and what their grade ranges are but guess what: they really don’t — it’s impossible when reviewing hundreds or thousands of apps that ultimately start looking the same to keep that in mind even if you heard it once or twice in passing.

Parents of Big3 kids need to internalize this, keep it in mind, and move on …

All colleges recalculate GPAs so that they’re able to make an apples to apples comparison. The public school student’s inflated GPA will be compared to the (Big 3) private school student’s GPA using the same scale. That’s why Sidwell, GDS, and the Cathedral schools are sending graduates to the aforementioned colleges this year.

Well this is why private high school leads to private college and public high school leads to public college. And it’s also why people who went to public college know that the top kids there are no less smart than those at ivys. It’s the top private college kids who really don’t understand the world beyond their own coddled / enabled existences.