University of California schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UC schools are not worth the OOS costs. There are plenty of much better schools that give merit or cost less. Apply just to see as it is simple, but don't hold your breathe hoping you get in.

You're right they are not cheap as OOS, but be real, few schools compare to UCLA, UCSF, Berkeley.

UCSF doesn’t have undergraduate programs. I think you mean UCSD

[Anonymous]

UC's are pushing kids to do CC first for two years and transfer in. The transfer admission rates are a lot higher (2x-4x) than trying to come in as a freshman.

If you want OOS admission as a freshman, you literally need to be perfect. You will likely also have Ivy offers in hand.

If your kid really wants California, enroll in a local CC or CalState and establish California residency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh - and I know the UC website says that each location reviews apps on their own so it doesn’t matter how many locations a student applies to, but does DCUM think that really correct?

Full out one application online. Apply to any/many just by checking off the name of the campus and paying a separate fee for each.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UC's are pushing kids to do CC first for two years and transfer in. The transfer admission rates are a lot higher (2x-4x) than trying to come in as a freshman.

If you want OOS admission as a freshman, you literally need to be perfect. You will likely also have Ivy offers in hand.

If your kid really wants California, enroll in a local CC or CalState and establish California residency.

Where are you getting this? We live in California with two kids in high school and this is the first I've heard of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UC's are pushing kids to do CC first for two years and transfer in. The transfer admission rates are a lot higher (2x-4x) than trying to come in as a freshman.

If you want OOS admission as a freshman, you literally need to be perfect. You will likely also have Ivy offers in hand.

If your kid really wants California, enroll in a local CC or CalState and establish California residency.

Where are you getting this? We live in California with two kids in high school and this is the first I've heard of that.

that pp was full of it

[Anonymous]

Which ones are the lowest ranked UCs, based on what people who live in CA think?

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And how do they compare to the better Cal States? Is there an overlap from the top Cal States to the bottom UCs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Which ones are the lowest ranked UCs, based on what people who live in CA think?

UC Merced is lowest. Was not very farsighted to put it in the Central Valley where the nearest strip mall is 20 mins away. There is nothing surrounding it. Next ranked is UC Riverside. Every other UC your likely not getting into without a 3.8+ GPA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, hit enter too soon.

And how do they compare to the better Cal States? Is there an overlap from the top Cal States to the bottom UCs?

Zero overlap. Cal Poly SLO is the top Cal state and other than UCLA or Berkeley many would choose it (particularly for Engineering) over all of the other UCs. Valedictorians don’t get in. Next up (but a far 2nd) is San Diego State which has been vaulted to difficult to get into but would still be a choice for many over Merced and Riverside.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wondering if anyone whose DC got into an UC school from out of state would share which school, unweighted GPA (using the UC method which I think A- counts as a 4.0 and a .5 bump for AP and honors? As an aside I find it so confusing all the different gpa calc methods abs it makes a huge difference so just citing the number isn’t sufficient unless you know how it was calculated), summary of extracurriculars?

My DS loves the research opportunities the UCs can offer and is ready for a large school (his current HS is very small and he is ready for something else). He’s certainly a good student but not the tippy top and he doesn’t think he did that great on his first two APs this year (he did well in the classes but is nervous about score, he’s taking 4 more APs next year and probably 3 senior year so will have a total of 8-9) so I am trying to figure out what campuses other than Merced are realistic for him to consider and the public info available is hard to assess for OOS.

UCs don’t use any test scores in admissions. The only place where AP score would matter is credit/placement if he is admitted/attends.

Apparently, the UCs do care about AP scores in admissions. Which I think are far more inequitable than SATs, because many high schools don’t subsidize AP exam costs.

No they don't . please provide cite

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, hit enter too soon.

And how do they compare to the better Cal States? Is there an overlap from the top Cal States to the bottom UCs?

Zero overlap. Cal Poly SLO is the top Cal state and other than UCLA or Berkeley many would choose it (particularly for Engineering) over all of the other UCs. Valedictorians don’t get in. Next up (but a far 2nd) is San Diego State which has been vaulted to difficult to get into but would still be a choice for many over Merced and Riverside.

by the way, the cal states are reserved for Californians . Check me on this but DS wanted to go to cal state Fullerton for its great animation department which led into Disneyland and were told in no uncertain terms that our Virginian son was never going to get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CU Boulder might be a better choice and it as well as University of Oregon are gaining in popularity. My nephew with a 3.65 UW GPA (don’t know the UC GPA) got rejected from UCSD, UCLA, UCSC and UCSB.

Excellent answer to a question OP DID NOT ASK

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wondering if anyone whose DC got into an UC school from out of state would share which school, unweighted GPA (using the UC method which I think A- counts as a 4.0 and a .5 bump for AP and honors? As an aside I find it so confusing all the different gpa calc methods abs it makes a huge difference so just citing the number isn’t sufficient unless you know how it was calculated), summary of extracurriculars?

My DS loves the research opportunities the UCs can offer and is ready for a large school (his current HS is very small and he is ready for something else). He’s certainly a good student but not the tippy top and he doesn’t think he did that great on his first two APs this year (he did well in the classes but is nervous about score, he’s taking 4 more APs next year and probably 3 senior year so will have a total of 8-9) so I am trying to figure out what campuses other than Merced are realistic for him to consider and the public info available is hard to assess for OOS.

UCs don’t use any test scores in admissions. The only place where AP score would matter is credit/placement if he is admitted/attends.

Apparently, the UCs do care about AP scores in admissions. Which I think are far more inequitable than SATs, because many high schools don’t subsidize AP exam costs.

No they don't . please provide cite

someone already quoted the admissions page on this, on page 2 of this thread. please read the whole thread, it's not that long.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which ones are the lowest ranked UCs, based on what people who live in CA think?

UC Merced is lowest. Was not very farsighted to put it in the Central Valley where the nearest strip mall is 20 mins away. There is nothing surrounding it. Next ranked is UC Riverside. Every other UC your likely not getting into without a 3.8+ GPA

I’m pretty sure the point of UC Merced was to serve an underserved area. And it was founded in 2005, but is already T100.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, hit enter too soon.

And how do they compare to the better Cal States? Is there an overlap from the top Cal States to the bottom UCs?

Zero overlap. Cal Poly SLO is the top Cal state and other than UCLA or Berkeley many would choose it (particularly for Engineering) over all of the other UCs. Valedictorians don’t get in. Next up (but a far 2nd) is San Diego State which has been vaulted to difficult to get into but would still be a choice for many over Merced and Riverside.

So yes there is overlap.