Waitlists

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Im the Rice parent and thanks for pointing out that "we" are going to college. Of course "we" are not going to college but college is a family decision as well as a student's decision - it has to fit within the financial goals of the family. In our house the kids aren't given carte blanc to do whatever they want but big decisions are made a family team. Thanks again for your insight.

He did not do a LOCI; simply accepted the WL offer.
Major is CS.
Unsure if he will accept bc he moved on to his other offers thinking Rice was off the table.
He visited campus three times and was very specific with the Why Rice essay.

Thank you for your detailed information. Really appreciate it!!!

Anytime

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are people getting off waitlists yet?

It's different for every year at every college. I hope list moves and your kiddo gets in. Mine didn't want to wait till last days, he moved on.

[Anonymous]

Anyone got off waitlist today?

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DC of friend off wait list at Clemson. Already committed somewhere else, however.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC of friend off wait list at Clemson. Already committed somewhere else, however.

Good to hear about Clemson already going to waitlist. Some years they have almost no waitlist movement.

[Anonymous]

It seems it is a must for midwestern privates to rely on waitlist to fill the class. We looked at the CDS for the three major privates UChicago, Northwestern and Case Western.

Only Case Western lesser known that the other two disclosed full waitlist data and pulled 350 out of waitlist five times the number of Northwestern which pulled around 70 kids. Assuming the ratio holds, Northwestern at least put 2k students on waitlist. Given Northwestern's 63% yield it at least had to pull 100+ kids off the waitlist. In other words there is a 5% chance one will get off the northwestern waitlist.

For UChicago the waitlist is even more mysterious. Based on yield rate of 86% which is higher than any of HYPSM+ every other schools (state & private) there data doesn't make sense. Assuming the yield from EDI & EDII are 99%, to maintain that high an yield UChicago still have to get at least half of its class from EA & RD. Which will indicate they must go deep into the waitlist pool, and probably somewhere in the middle between Northwestern and Case Western. All these are based on 2021 CDS data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems it is a must for midwestern privates to rely on waitlist to fill the class. We looked at the CDS for the three major privates UChicago, Northwestern and Case Western.

Only Case Western lesser known that the other two disclosed full waitlist data and pulled 350 out of waitlist five times the number of Northwestern which pulled around 70 kids. Assuming the ratio holds, Northwestern at least put 2k students on waitlist. Given Northwestern's 63% yield it at least had to pull 100+ kids off the waitlist. In other words there is a 5% chance one will get off the northwestern waitlist.

For UChicago the waitlist is even more mysterious. Based on yield rate of 86% which is higher than any of HYPSM+ every other schools (state & private) there data doesn't make sense. Assuming the yield from EDI & EDII are 99%, to maintain that high an yield UChicago still have to get at least half of its class from EA & RD. Which will indicate they must go deep into the waitlist pool, and probably somewhere in the middle between Northwestern and Case Western. All these are based on 2021 CDS data.

I don't understand the bolded. Why doesn't the high yield indicate that Chicago fills a huge percentage of its class (probably around 80%) w/ ED1/ED2? What am I missing? My guess is that UChicago admits very few EA/RD and then relies heavily on WL to maintain high yield. I also think they're only admitting students from the WL who they are sure will come based on LOCI, discussions w/ college counselors, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems it is a must for midwestern privates to rely on waitlist to fill the class. We looked at the CDS for the three major privates UChicago, Northwestern and Case Western.

Only Case Western lesser known that the other two disclosed full waitlist data and pulled 350 out of waitlist five times the number of Northwestern which pulled around 70 kids. Assuming the ratio holds, Northwestern at least put 2k students on waitlist. Given Northwestern's 63% yield it at least had to pull 100+ kids off the waitlist. In other words there is a 5% chance one will get off the northwestern waitlist.

For UChicago the waitlist is even more mysterious. Based on yield rate of 86% which is higher than any of HYPSM+ every other schools (state & private) there data doesn't make sense. Assuming the yield from EDI & EDII are 99%, to maintain that high an yield UChicago still have to get at least half of its class from EA & RD. Which will indicate they must go deep into the waitlist pool, and probably somewhere in the middle between Northwestern and Case Western. All these are based on 2021 CDS data.

I don't understand the bolded. Why doesn't the high yield indicate that Chicago fills a huge percentage of its class (probably around 80%) w/ ED1/ED2? What am I missing? My guess is that UChicago admits very few EA/RD and then relies heavily on WL to maintain high yield. I also think they're only admitting students from the WL who they are sure will come based on LOCI, discussions w/ college counselors, etc.

If they were able to fill most spots with strong enough candidates through ED they wouldn't need ED1 & ED2. They have to rely on EA and RD and waitlist. Also there is no reason not to disclose waitlist data. HYPSM have yield of around 70+% and they only need 1 ED or equivalent single choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems it is a must for midwestern privates to rely on waitlist to fill the class. We looked at the CDS for the three major privates UChicago, Northwestern and Case Western.

Only Case Western lesser known that the other two disclosed full waitlist data and pulled 350 out of waitlist five times the number of Northwestern which pulled around 70 kids. Assuming the ratio holds, Northwestern at least put 2k students on waitlist. Given Northwestern's 63% yield it at least had to pull 100+ kids off the waitlist. In other words there is a 5% chance one will get off the northwestern waitlist.

For UChicago the waitlist is even more mysterious. Based on yield rate of 86% which is higher than any of HYPSM+ every other schools (state & private) there data doesn't make sense. Assuming the yield from EDI & EDII are 99%, to maintain that high an yield UChicago still have to get at least half of its class from EA & RD. Which will indicate they must go deep into the waitlist pool, and probably somewhere in the middle between Northwestern and Case Western. All these are based on 2021 CDS data.

I don't understand the bolded. Why doesn't the high yield indicate that Chicago fills a huge percentage of its class (probably around 80%) w/ ED1/ED2? What am I missing? My guess is that UChicago admits very few EA/RD and then relies heavily on WL to maintain high yield. I also think they're only admitting students from the WL who they are sure will come based on LOCI, discussions w/ college counselors, etc.

If they were able to fill most spots with strong enough candidates through ED they wouldn't need ED1 & ED2. They have to rely on EA and RD and waitlist. Also there is no reason not to disclose waitlist data. HYPSM have yield of around 70+% and they only need 1 ED or equivalent single choice.

Again, I'm having a very hard time understanding your logic. Nobody said UChicago was the same as HYPSM...it's not. The reason it has such high yield is because of ED1 and ED2. That said, UChicago gets many very highly qualified candidates through ED2...generally people who took their shot at an Ivy, Stanford, MIT in the ED/EA round and got rejected or deferred. I think the few people UChicago lets in EA/RD are also top candidates who often end up w/ other choices. Those are the spots that UChicago has to go to its WL for. My kid was waitlisted at UChicago (got accepted somewhere he preferred) and I was told by people who know that their WL moves, especially for kids who make it clear that they'll accept an offer.

[Anonymous]

DC just offered admission off waitlist from Wisconsin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC just offered admission off waitlist from Wisconsin.

Yay! Congrats!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems it is a must for midwestern privates to rely on waitlist to fill the class. We looked at the CDS for the three major privates UChicago, Northwestern and Case Western.

Only Case Western lesser known that the other two disclosed full waitlist data and pulled 350 out of waitlist five times the number of Northwestern which pulled around 70 kids. Assuming the ratio holds, Northwestern at least put 2k students on waitlist. Given Northwestern's 63% yield it at least had to pull 100+ kids off the waitlist. In other words there is a 5% chance one will get off the northwestern waitlist.

For UChicago the waitlist is even more mysterious. Based on yield rate of 86% which is higher than any of HYPSM+ every other schools (state & private) there data doesn't make sense. Assuming the yield from EDI & EDII are 99%, to maintain that high an yield UChicago still have to get at least half of its class from EA & RD. Which will indicate they must go deep into the waitlist pool, and probably somewhere in the middle between Northwestern and Case Western. All these are based on 2021 CDS data.

I don't understand the bolded. Why doesn't the high yield indicate that Chicago fills a huge percentage of its class (probably around 80%) w/ ED1/ED2? What am I missing? My guess is that UChicago admits very few EA/RD and then relies heavily on WL to maintain high yield. I also think they're only admitting students from the WL who they are sure will come based on LOCI, discussions w/ college counselors, etc.

Let's say Chicago gets 90% of its class filled with EDI & ED2. That is about 1800 spots and 99% of them will ultimately enroll given some will be allowed to get out for financial or other reasons. For the remaining 200+ spots Chicago must make at least 600 offers. That is a 33% yield on EA and RD admits. But it will be very risky for them to offer 600 students a spot at the same time. if the yield rate spikes up they will end up with more students than they are able to accommodate. So they have to control rolling out of the offers. The way to do it is to actively manage the waitlist so they will probably go deeper the into waitlist than Northwestern.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC just offered admission off waitlist from Wisconsin.

Stats? Did your DC submit a letter of continued interest?

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Anonymous wrote:DC of friend off wait list at Clemson. Already committed somewhere else, however.

Good to hear about Clemson already going to waitlist. Some years they have almost no waitlist movement.

My friend's son came off the waitlist for Clemson last year---> 2022. They seem to be utilizing it in recent years.

[Anonymous]

4.4 weighted (3.96 umw), 34 ACT. LOCI after deferred EA.