Capital One, going back 3 days a week

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Anonymous wrote:WFH if it suits you. Go in if it suits you. Everyone has a preference. Why can't we all just do this? It's logic.

Because as much as some people want to claim that they are just as productive if not more when they are at home, most of us are not. There is a key component of collaboration that just doesn't happen to the same extent when we are all on Teams and working from home. Some jobs, absolutely! But there are a lot of jobs that are 100% done better when everyone is in person.

Stop pulling everyone into your preference. Feel free to go in the office.

It's not my preference. I love being able to put in a load of laundry during the day, let that contractor in when I need to. Greet my kid at the bus. However, I'm also able to recognize that a lot is lost when everyone is working from home 100% of the time. You can fight it all you want to, but you might as well get used to the idea that employers are increasingly going back to 3+ days in the office because it's necessary for most positions.

Begrudgingly agree. Honestly, I would be 100% ok with going in every day if I had a flexible schedule that allowed a little telework in the mornings and evenings. Wrangling the kids and school drop offs and pick-ups is so chaotic - remote work is the only way to make it work for us.

And you didn’t know this before having children?

This problem started after the pandemic when before and after care school programs pretty much disappeared in our area.

Before and after care programs are up and running. You just don’t want to do it.

You are weirdly invested in disputing this.

Not np. I propose starting the "get off your as... and go back to work" movement. I'm sure none of you would show up.

You're assumption that people working from home aren't working is just BS. I work in an almost fully remote agency, with lots of performance measurements and metrics. It shows people are working. Period.

Telework and wfh doesn't create a performance issue with proper oversight and performance measurements.

Fact.

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Capital one also had a bunch of layoffs recently so it’s not surprising. Probably a way to weed more people out.

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Anonymous wrote:Most have started requiring 3 days in the office, and if not, it's coming. I'm talking about the private industry, not government.

I don't know why any of you are surprised.

+1. Big banks in NYC are in office all week. Goldman's cuts earlier in the year were informed by office attendance (you have to log when you are in the office weekly and I believe it's cross-checked with badge swipes). Cap One employees are lucky to have two WFH days. That is not the norm at other banks.

Those NYC banks own their buildings; doesn't CapOne as well? Having offices vacant messes up their balance sheet. This whole "office culture" thing is just a real estate scam.

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Anonymous wrote:Most have started requiring 3 days in the office, and if not, it's coming. I'm talking about the private industry, not government.

I don't know why any of you are surprised.

+1. Big banks in NYC are in office all week. Goldman's cuts earlier in the year were informed by office attendance (you have to log when you are in the office weekly and I believe it's cross-checked with badge swipes). Cap One employees are lucky to have two WFH days. That is not the norm at other banks.

Those NYC banks own their buildings; doesn't CapOne as well? Having offices vacant messes up their balance sheet. This whole "office culture" thing is just a real estate scam.

+10000 follow the $ or the real estate

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Anonymous wrote:WFH if it suits you. Go in if it suits you. Everyone has a preference. Why can't we all just do this? It's logic.

Because as much as some people want to claim that they are just as productive if not more when they are at home, most of us are not. There is a key component of collaboration that just doesn't happen to the same extent when we are all on Teams and working from home. Some jobs, absolutely! But there are a lot of jobs that are 100% done better when everyone is in person.

Stop pulling everyone into your preference. Feel free to go in the office.

It's not my preference. I love being able to put in a load of laundry during the day, let that contractor in when I need to. Greet my kid at the bus. However, I'm also able to recognize that a lot is lost when everyone is working from home 100% of the time. You can fight it all you want to, but you might as well get used to the idea that employers are increasingly going back to 3+ days in the office because it's necessary for most positions.

Begrudgingly agree. Honestly, I would be 100% ok with going in every day if I had a flexible schedule that allowed a little telework in the mornings and evenings. Wrangling the kids and school drop offs and pick-ups is so chaotic - remote work is the only way to make it work for us.

And you didn’t know this before having children?

This problem started after the pandemic when before and after care school programs pretty much disappeared in our area.

Before and after care programs are up and running. You just don’t want to do it.

You are weirdly invested in disputing this.

Not np. I propose starting the "get off your as... and go back to work" movement. I'm sure none of you would show up.

I agree that people come up with lame excuses for not wanting to return to the office. But even before Covid, when people came into the office 100%, there were performance issues. People who don’t want to work will not work even when they are in an office building. They’ll socialize, surf the web all day on their phone, go to the gym, talk long walks or lunches, etc.