Does it matter where you attend college anymore?

[Anonymous]

Agreed, I think work ethics and hunger for professional success develops by middle and high school. I see a ton of parents advocating an "easy" elementary and middle school. But I see that by the time the kids reach high school, they are already on different math tracks. They don't know how to put in several hours of work on studying for the tests and homework. By that time, it's already too late for a ton of kids. I do advocate for a balance in elementary and middle but having zero supplements especially when your kid goes to public doesn't work in my experience. The supplement could be science bowl, math olympiad, math counts, lego leagues .. anything that requires a kid to develop strong work ethic and desire to succeed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a misleading title. Those are all T60 schools.

Btw Deloitte/KPMG/PWC/EY consulting won’t even look at your app beyond ~T100 schools.

Literally the first profile I looked at proves you wrong about your second statement. You really shouldn't make ridiculous claims and expect no one to check up on you.

https://www.ey.com/en_us/people/julie-boland

I don't understand this reply. This woman went to the University of Chicago for an MBA...which is a Top 5 business school.

It seems to actually very much dispute the premise of the thread. Maybe find a better example?

[Anonymous]

Some version of this thread seems to be posted like once a week...not sure who or why.

It doesn't really matter if you want to live a nice life, though some majors clearly have better outcomes than others.

However, this does not dispute the fact that the top schools produce an inordinate number of successful entrepreneurs and attract an inordinate amount of venture capital (https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/pitchbook-university-rankings).

In fact, an inordinate number of Top 10 school graduates dominate the ranks of venture capital firms (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/16/these-12-schools-produce-the-most-venture-capitalists.html).

If you want to break into Hollywood...it's not rocket science that yes it helps / matters that you attend USC (also, USC is actually the #1 school where SpaceX recruits, so maybe it is rocket science).

One can go on-and-on.

EY, Accenture, Capital One, etc. are hiring hundreds of kids each year and absolutely cast a wide net.

There just seems like some weird, reflexive group on DCUM that goes to great lengths to justify maybe a kid's rejection, or didn't even apply because could not afford it, etc.

[Anonymous]

It matters in some fields (law & finance), but for most jobs it does it.

Connections matter the most!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s much easier to get to that level if you go to an elite school. Investment banks are not on campus recruiting at U of Richmond, that person would have had to network really hard and get v lucky if he got that job out of school. If he went to an elite school and got good grades he could sign up for informational interviews on campus with 5 banks and not need to do the networking or get lucky.

Ivy pluses pretty much sign up for their first job, barring extraordinary circumstances like pandemic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s much easier to get to that level if you go to an elite school. Investment banks are not on campus recruiting at U of Richmond, that person would have had to network really hard and get v lucky if he got that job out of school. If he went to an elite school and got good grades he could sign up for informational interviews on campus with 5 banks and not need to do the networking or get lucky.

Ivy pluses pretty much sign up for their first job, barring extraordinary circumstances like pandemic.

Lololol no. Definitely NOT true in this century. And Definitely NOT even anywhere close to true for “Ivy Plus.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s much easier to get to that level if you go to an elite school. Investment banks are not on campus recruiting at U of Richmond, that person would have had to network really hard and get v lucky if he got that job out of school. If he went to an elite school and got good grades he could sign up for informational interviews on campus with 5 banks and not need to do the networking or get lucky.

Ivy pluses pretty much sign up for their first job, barring extraordinary circumstances like pandemic.

Not a chance in MBB, IB, plum nonprofits, VC or PE

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some version of this thread seems to be posted like once a week...not sure who or why.

It doesn't really matter if you want to live a nice life, though some majors clearly have better outcomes than others.

However, this does not dispute the fact that the top schools produce an inordinate number of successful entrepreneurs and attract an inordinate amount of venture capital (https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/pitchbook-university-rankings).

In fact, an inordinate number of Top 10 school graduates dominate the ranks of venture capital firms (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/16/these-12-schools-produce-the-most-venture-capitalists.html).

If you want to break into Hollywood...it's not rocket science that yes it helps / matters that you attend USC (also, USC is actually the #1 school where SpaceX recruits, so maybe it is rocket science).

One can go on-and-on.

EY, Accenture, Capital One, etc. are hiring hundreds of kids each year and absolutely cast a wide net.

There just seems like some weird, reflexive group on DCUM that goes to great lengths to justify maybe a kid's rejection, or didn't even apply because could not afford it, etc.

You’re confusing correlation and causation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s much easier to get to that level if you go to an elite school. Investment banks are not on campus recruiting at U of Richmond, that person would have had to network really hard and get v lucky if he got that job out of school. If he went to an elite school and got good grades he could sign up for informational interviews on campus with 5 banks and not need to do the networking or get lucky.

Ivy pluses pretty much sign up for their first job, barring extraordinary circumstances like pandemic.

Go on any elite private or top public subreddit. Look at different times during the year. Grim posts about kids applying to hundreds of internships & jobs and getting nowhere. Especially UMich.


That said, there’s a stereotype of Reddit users being antisocial shut-ins, so that might have something to do with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a misleading title. Those are all T60 schools.

Btw Deloitte/KPMG/PWC/EY consulting won’t even look at your app beyond ~T100 schools.

WTF? These are not prestigious places. They will probably hire more consultants from schools like Michigan State than an Ivy. They hire armies of consultants, mostly for tech projects, grind them down with billable hours, and then 1/3 will quit each year to go work for companies.

The people at Ivies that work for the Big 4 accounting firm's consulting units are basically international students because a lot of the more prestigious or desirable employers won't go through the immigration and visa hoops beyond 1 year for the student visa, but these mega firms will. They stick around until their work status stabilizes and then bolt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a misleading title. Those are all T60 schools.

Btw Deloitte/KPMG/PWC/EY consulting won’t even look at your app beyond ~T100 schools.

WTF? These are not prestigious places. They will probably hire more consultants from schools like Michigan State than an Ivy. They hire armies of consultants, mostly for tech projects, grind them down with billable hours, and then 1/3 will quit each year to go work for companies.

The people at Ivies that work for the Big 4 accounting firm's consulting units are basically international students because a lot of the more prestigious or desirable employers won't go through the immigration and visa hoops beyond 1 year for the student visa, but these mega firms will. They stick around until their work status stabilizes and then bolt.

They do not recruit at places like JMU, UMBC, Towson or GMU for consulting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a misleading title. Those are all T60 schools.

Btw Deloitte/KPMG/PWC/EY consulting won’t even look at your app beyond ~T100 schools.

WTF? These are not prestigious places. They will probably hire more consultants from schools like Michigan State than an Ivy. They hire armies of consultants, mostly for tech projects, grind them down with billable hours, and then 1/3 will quit each year to go work for companies.

The people at Ivies that work for the Big 4 accounting firm's consulting units are basically international students because a lot of the more prestigious or desirable employers won't go through the immigration and visa hoops beyond 1 year for the student visa, but these mega firms will. They stick around until their work status stabilizes and then bolt.

It’s also basically impossible to switch from Accounting to consulting once there even though they won’t hire you for consulting from certain schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s much easier to get to that level if you go to an elite school. Investment banks are not on campus recruiting at U of Richmond, that person would have had to network really hard and get v lucky if he got that job out of school. If he went to an elite school and got good grades he could sign up for informational interviews on campus with 5 banks and not need to do the networking or get lucky.

Ivy pluses pretty much sign up for their first job, barring extraordinary circumstances like pandemic.

Go on any elite private or top public subreddit. Look at different times during the year. Grim posts about kids applying to hundreds of internships & jobs and getting nowhere. Especially UMich.


That said, there’s a stereotype of Reddit users being antisocial shut-ins, so that might have something to do with it.

Going to the elite U only gets you the extra interviews. If you haven't done the work and have the resume, you are not going to get hired.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s much easier to get to that level if you go to an elite school. Investment banks are not on campus recruiting at U of Richmond, that person would have had to network really hard and get v lucky if he got that job out of school. If he went to an elite school and got good grades he could sign up for informational interviews on campus with 5 banks and not need to do the networking or get lucky.

Ivy pluses pretty much sign up for their first job, barring extraordinary circumstances like pandemic.

Go on any elite private or top public subreddit. Look at different times during the year. Grim posts about kids applying to hundreds of internships & jobs and getting nowhere. Especially UMich.


That said, there’s a stereotype of Reddit users being antisocial shut-ins, so that might have something to do with it.

Going to the elite U only gets you the extra interviews. If you haven't done the work and have the resume, you are not going to get hired.

Right, but pp said “Ivy pluses basically sign up for the job.”

[Anonymous]

To be a well educated person, yes. To make money, no