AP Test Passage By High School

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Anonymous wrote:The 2021-22 AP/IB performance numbers are in the OSSE school report cards for the individual schools. https://osse.dc.gov/dcschoolreportcard. They include charters. And they’re broken down by race. The schools with a 90% pass rate or better for white students are Basis, Walls, DCI, Banneker, and Latin.

Not sure where you are getting that.

If you look at white students, Basis is at 94%, Walls 93%; Latin and DCI are just below 90%; and Banneker has too few white students to provide a percentage.

Plus, just looking at white students is misleading given how diverse the above schools are.

When I follow the link, I get a white AP/IB performance number at Banneker and DCI of >=90%. There are too few students to report an AP/IB participation rate at Banneker. At DCI the participation rate is reported as 89.47%. Are you sure you’re looking at the right number? (The performance number at Latin is technically just under 90% but it’s over 89.5 so I rounded up.)

And I agree, it’s not like only white students matter. But OSSE doesn’t give us data based on parents’ education or middle school, two factors beyond the control of any high school that are strongly associated with AP/IB performance. Since the white population of DC is not very socioeconomically diverse, it’s a decent proxy for students from college-educated homes who attended decent middle schools.

It should not matter what the education level or SES of the families are. You are taking a test based on the content and curriculum of a course being taught.

If the course is rigorous and covers all the relevant material then the kids should at least score a 3 minimum which is not hard to do. But 4 and 5 is what your standards should be.

I took a number of AP courses, did not study for any of the exams and easily got 3 no problem, some 4’s. Just walked in and took the test.

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Anonymous wrote:The 2021-22 AP/IB performance numbers are in the OSSE school report cards for the individual schools. https://osse.dc.gov/dcschoolreportcard. They include charters. And they’re broken down by race. The schools with a 90% pass rate or better for white students are Basis, Walls, DCI, Banneker, and Latin.

Not sure where you are getting that.

If you look at white students, Basis is at 94%, Walls 93%; Latin and DCI are just below 90%; and Banneker has too few white students to provide a percentage.

Plus, just looking at white students is misleading given how diverse the above schools are.

When I follow the link, I get a white AP/IB performance number at Banneker and DCI of >=90%. There are too few students to report an AP/IB participation rate at Banneker. At DCI the participation rate is reported as 89.47%. Are you sure you’re looking at the right number? (The performance number at Latin is technically just under 90% but it’s over 89.5 so I rounded up.)

And I agree, it’s not like only white students matter. But OSSE doesn’t give us data based on parents’ education or middle school, two factors beyond the control of any high school that are strongly associated with AP/IB performance. Since the white population of DC is not very socioeconomically diverse, it’s a decent proxy for students from college-educated homes who attended decent middle schools.

It should not matter what the education level or SES of the families are. You are taking a test based on the content and curriculum of a course being taught.

If the course is rigorous and covers all the relevant material then the kids should at least score a 3 minimum which is not hard to do. But 4 and 5 is what your standards should be.

I took a number of AP courses, did not study for any of the exams and easily got 3 no problem, some 4’s. Just walked in and took the test.

No offense but why should I set standards for my kids based on your personal, subjective experience with AP tests back in some random high school somewhere?

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Anonymous wrote:The 2021-22 AP/IB performance numbers are in the OSSE school report cards for the individual schools. https://osse.dc.gov/dcschoolreportcard. They include charters. And they’re broken down by race. The schools with a 90% pass rate or better for white students are Basis, Walls, DCI, Banneker, and Latin.

Not sure where you are getting that.

If you look at white students, Basis is at 94%, Walls 93%; Latin and DCI are just below 90%; and Banneker has too few white students to provide a percentage.

Plus, just looking at white students is misleading given how diverse the above schools are.

When I follow the link, I get a white AP/IB performance number at Banneker and DCI of >=90%. There are too few students to report an AP/IB participation rate at Banneker. At DCI the participation rate is reported as 89.47%. Are you sure you’re looking at the right number? (The performance number at Latin is technically just under 90% but it’s over 89.5 so I rounded up.)

And I agree, it’s not like only white students matter. But OSSE doesn’t give us data based on parents’ education or middle school, two factors beyond the control of any high school that are strongly associated with AP/IB performance. Since the white population of DC is not very socioeconomically diverse, it’s a decent proxy for students from college-educated homes who attended decent middle schools.

It should not matter what the education level or SES of the families are. You are taking a test based on the content and curriculum of a course being taught.

If the course is rigorous and covers all the relevant material then the kids should at least score a 3 minimum which is not hard to do. But 4 and 5 is what your standards should be.

I took a number of AP courses, did not study for any of the exams and easily got 3 no problem, some 4’s. Just walked in and took the test.

No offense but why should I set standards for my kids based on your personal, subjective experience with AP tests back in some random high school somewhere?

A 3 on the AP exam is not easy for many students even with excellent teachers and alignment of the course to the test. A 3 is relatively easy for a student with excellent reading comprehension skills, strong critical thinking skills, and who can read and write with above average speed. Most of those things a studrnts brings with them to the AP class. As an AP teacher i can say that some of my proudest achievements are getting my students who don’t have those skills at the start of the course to earn a 2. Note this is for a science AP. To be honest most motivated kids that earn 4 and 5’s don’t need a particularly strong teacher to get them there.

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Anonymous wrote:The 2021-22 AP/IB performance numbers are in the OSSE school report cards for the individual schools. https://osse.dc.gov/dcschoolreportcard. They include charters. And they’re broken down by race. The schools with a 90% pass rate or better for white students are Basis, Walls, DCI, Banneker, and Latin.

Not sure where you are getting that.

If you look at white students, Basis is at 94%, Walls 93%; Latin and DCI are just below 90%; and Banneker has too few white students to provide a percentage.

Plus, just looking at white students is misleading given how diverse the above schools are.

When I follow the link, I get a white AP/IB performance number at Banneker and DCI of >=90%. There are too few students to report an AP/IB participation rate at Banneker. At DCI the participation rate is reported as 89.47%. Are you sure you’re looking at the right number? (The performance number at Latin is technically just under 90% but it’s over 89.5 so I rounded up.)

And I agree, it’s not like only white students matter. But OSSE doesn’t give us data based on parents’ education or middle school, two factors beyond the control of any high school that are strongly associated with AP/IB performance. Since the white population of DC is not very socioeconomically diverse, it’s a decent proxy for students from college-educated homes who attended decent middle schools.

It should not matter what the education level or SES of the families are. You are taking a test based on the content and curriculum of a course being taught.

If the course is rigorous and covers all the relevant material then the kids should at least score a 3 minimum which is not hard to do. But 4 and 5 is what your standards should be.

I took a number of AP courses, did not study for any of the exams and easily got 3 no problem, some 4’s. Just walked in and took the test.

No offense but why should I set standards for my kids based on your personal, subjective experience with AP tests back in some random high school somewhere?

Set whatever standard you want. You want lower standards feel free. But you won’t be getting any college credits with a 3. Their standard to mastering the course and getting credit has always been a 4 or 5.

3 is mediocre and if that is the standard you want to set, go for it.

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Anonymous wrote:The 2021-22 AP/IB performance numbers are in the OSSE school report cards for the individual schools. https://osse.dc.gov/dcschoolreportcard. They include charters. And they’re broken down by race. The schools with a 90% pass rate or better for white students are Basis, Walls, DCI, Banneker, and Latin.

Not sure where you are getting that.

If you look at white students, Basis is at 94%, Walls 93%; Latin and DCI are just below 90%; and Banneker has too few white students to provide a percentage.

Plus, just looking at white students is misleading given how diverse the above schools are.

When I follow the link, I get a white AP/IB performance number at Banneker and DCI of >=90%. There are too few students to report an AP/IB participation rate at Banneker. At DCI the participation rate is reported as 89.47%. Are you sure you’re looking at the right number? (The performance number at Latin is technically just under 90% but it’s over 89.5 so I rounded up.)

And I agree, it’s not like only white students matter. But OSSE doesn’t give us data based on parents’ education or middle school, two factors beyond the control of any high school that are strongly associated with AP/IB performance. Since the white population of DC is not very socioeconomically diverse, it’s a decent proxy for students from college-educated homes who attended decent middle schools.

It should not matter what the education level or SES of the families are. You are taking a test based on the content and curriculum of a course being taught.

If the course is rigorous and covers all the relevant material then the kids should at least score a 3 minimum which is not hard to do. But 4 and 5 is what your standards should be.

I took a number of AP courses, did not study for any of the exams and easily got 3 no problem, some 4’s. Just walked in and took the test.

No offense but why should I set standards for my kids based on your personal, subjective experience with AP tests back in some random high school somewhere?

Set whatever standard you want. You want lower standards feel free. But you won’t be getting any college credits with a 3. Their standard to mastering the course and getting credit has always been a 4 or 5.

3 is mediocre and if that is the standard you want to set, go for it.

Huh?

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Anonymous wrote:The 2021-22 AP/IB performance numbers are in the OSSE school report cards for the individual schools. https://osse.dc.gov/dcschoolreportcard. They include charters. And they’re broken down by race. The schools with a 90% pass rate or better for white students are Basis, Walls, DCI, Banneker, and Latin.

Not sure where you are getting that.

If you look at white students, Basis is at 94%, Walls 93%; Latin and DCI are just below 90%; and Banneker has too few white students to provide a percentage.

Plus, just looking at white students is misleading given how diverse the above schools are.

When I follow the link, I get a white AP/IB performance number at Banneker and DCI of >=90%. There are too few students to report an AP/IB participation rate at Banneker. At DCI the participation rate is reported as 89.47%. Are you sure you’re looking at the right number? (The performance number at Latin is technically just under 90% but it’s over 89.5 so I rounded up.)

And I agree, it’s not like only white students matter. But OSSE doesn’t give us data based on parents’ education or middle school, two factors beyond the control of any high school that are strongly associated with AP/IB performance. Since the white population of DC is not very socioeconomically diverse, it’s a decent proxy for students from college-educated homes who attended decent middle schools.

It should not matter what the education level or SES of the families are.

You're right, it shouldn't. But anyone who's spent 10 seconds paying attention knows SES makes a huge difference (in average, of course) in all educational outcomes.

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Anonymous wrote:The 2021-22 AP/IB performance numbers are in the OSSE school report cards for the individual schools. https://osse.dc.gov/dcschoolreportcard. They include charters. And they’re broken down by race. The schools with a 90% pass rate or better for white students are Basis, Walls, DCI, Banneker, and Latin.

Not sure where you are getting that.

If you look at white students, Basis is at 94%, Walls 93%; Latin and DCI are just below 90%; and Banneker has too few white students to provide a percentage.

Plus, just looking at white students is misleading given how diverse the above schools are.

When I follow the link, I get a white AP/IB performance number at Banneker and DCI of >=90%. There are too few students to report an AP/IB participation rate at Banneker. At DCI the participation rate is reported as 89.47%. Are you sure you’re looking at the right number? (The performance number at Latin is technically just under 90% but it’s over 89.5 so I rounded up.)

And I agree, it’s not like only white students matter. But OSSE doesn’t give us data based on parents’ education or middle school, two factors beyond the control of any high school that are strongly associated with AP/IB performance. Since the white population of DC is not very socioeconomically diverse, it’s a decent proxy for students from college-educated homes who attended decent middle schools.

It should not matter what the education level or SES of the families are. You are taking a test based on the content and curriculum of a course being taught.

If the course is rigorous and covers all the relevant material then the kids should at least score a 3 minimum which is not hard to do. But 4 and 5 is what your standards should be.

I took a number of AP courses, did not study for any of the exams and easily got 3 no problem, some 4’s. Just walked in and took the test.

No offense but why should I set standards for my kids based on your personal, subjective experience with AP tests back in some random high school somewhere?

Set whatever standard you want. You want lower standards feel free. But you won’t be getting any college credits with a 3. Their standard to mastering the course and getting credit has always been a 4 or 5.

3 is mediocre and if that is the standard you want to set, go for it.

Huh?

NP but I think PP is saying a 3 doesn’t really mean much. And they’re right. It doesn’t get college credit, doesn’t indicate mastery of content, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:The 2021-22 AP/IB performance numbers are in the OSSE school report cards for the individual schools. https://osse.dc.gov/dcschoolreportcard. They include charters. And they’re broken down by race. The schools with a 90% pass rate or better for white students are Basis, Walls, DCI, Banneker, and Latin.

Not sure where you are getting that.

If you look at white students, Basis is at 94%, Walls 93%; Latin and DCI are just below 90%; and Banneker has too few white students to provide a percentage.

Plus, just looking at white students is misleading given how diverse the above schools are.

When I follow the link, I get a white AP/IB performance number at Banneker and DCI of >=90%. There are too few students to report an AP/IB participation rate at Banneker. At DCI the participation rate is reported as 89.47%. Are you sure you’re looking at the right number? (The performance number at Latin is technically just under 90% but it’s over 89.5 so I rounded up.)

And I agree, it’s not like only white students matter. But OSSE doesn’t give us data based on parents’ education or middle school, two factors beyond the control of any high school that are strongly associated with AP/IB performance. Since the white population of DC is not very socioeconomically diverse, it’s a decent proxy for students from college-educated homes who attended decent middle schools.

It should not matter what the education level or SES of the families are.

You're right, it shouldn't. But anyone who's spent 10 seconds paying attention knows SES makes a huge difference (in average, of course) in all educational outcomes.

We are not talking about general outcomes. We are talking about a course designed for advance students to master the content and prove so by scoring a 4 or 5.

Above is obviously not the intent in AP for all in DCPS. That is where the problem lies. Then the curriculum and class is watered down.

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Anonymous wrote:The 2021-22 AP/IB performance numbers are in the OSSE school report cards for the individual schools. https://osse.dc.gov/dcschoolreportcard. They include charters. And they’re broken down by race. The schools with a 90% pass rate or better for white students are Basis, Walls, DCI, Banneker, and Latin.

Not sure where you are getting that.

If you look at white students, Basis is at 94%, Walls 93%; Latin and DCI are just below 90%; and Banneker has too few white students to provide a percentage.

Plus, just looking at white students is misleading given how diverse the above schools are.

When I follow the link, I get a white AP/IB performance number at Banneker and DCI of >=90%. There are too few students to report an AP/IB participation rate at Banneker. At DCI the participation rate is reported as 89.47%. Are you sure you’re looking at the right number? (The performance number at Latin is technically just under 90% but it’s over 89.5 so I rounded up.)

And I agree, it’s not like only white students matter. But OSSE doesn’t give us data based on parents’ education or middle school, two factors beyond the control of any high school that are strongly associated with AP/IB performance. Since the white population of DC is not very socioeconomically diverse, it’s a decent proxy for students from college-educated homes who attended decent middle schools.

It should not matter what the education level or SES of the families are. You are taking a test based on the content and curriculum of a course being taught.

If the course is rigorous and covers all the relevant material then the kids should at least score a 3 minimum which is not hard to do. But 4 and 5 is what your standards should be.

I took a number of AP courses, did not study for any of the exams and easily got 3 no problem, some 4’s. Just walked in and took the test.

No offense but why should I set standards for my kids based on your personal, subjective experience with AP tests back in some random high school somewhere?

Set whatever standard you want. You want lower standards feel free. But you won’t be getting any college credits with a 3. Their standard to mastering the course and getting credit has always been a 4 or 5.

3 is mediocre and if that is the standard you want to set, go for it.

Huh?

NP but I think PP is saying a 3 doesn’t really mean much. And they’re right. It doesn’t get college credit, doesn’t indicate mastery of content, etc.

I give that post a 1.

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Anonymous wrote:The 2021-22 AP/IB performance numbers are in the OSSE school report cards for the individual schools. https://osse.dc.gov/dcschoolreportcard. They include charters. And they’re broken down by race. The schools with a 90% pass rate or better for white students are Basis, Walls, DCI, Banneker, and Latin.

Not sure where you are getting that.

If you look at white students, Basis is at 94%, Walls 93%; Latin and DCI are just below 90%; and Banneker has too few white students to provide a percentage.

Plus, just looking at white students is misleading given how diverse the above schools are.

When I follow the link, I get a white AP/IB performance number at Banneker and DCI of >=90%. There are too few students to report an AP/IB participation rate at Banneker. At DCI the participation rate is reported as 89.47%. Are you sure you’re looking at the right number? (The performance number at Latin is technically just under 90% but it’s over 89.5 so I rounded up.)

And I agree, it’s not like only white students matter. But OSSE doesn’t give us data based on parents’ education or middle school, two factors beyond the control of any high school that are strongly associated with AP/IB performance. Since the white population of DC is not very socioeconomically diverse, it’s a decent proxy for students from college-educated homes who attended decent middle schools.

It should not matter what the education level or SES of the families are.

You're right, it shouldn't. But anyone who's spent 10 seconds paying attention knows SES makes a huge difference (in average, of course) in all educational outcomes.

You need to spend more than 10 seconds thinking about this. The research is very clear that it is the education level of the parents that drives educational outcomes for kids. Of course, parents who are highly educated tend to make more money but the causality for student educational outcomes is parental education level.

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Anonymous wrote:The 2021-22 AP/IB performance numbers are in the OSSE school report cards for the individual schools. https://osse.dc.gov/dcschoolreportcard. They include charters. And they’re broken down by race. The schools with a 90% pass rate or better for white students are Basis, Walls, DCI, Banneker, and Latin.

Not sure where you are getting that.

If you look at white students, Basis is at 94%, Walls 93%; Latin and DCI are just below 90%; and Banneker has too few white students to provide a percentage.

Plus, just looking at white students is misleading given how diverse the above schools are.

When I follow the link, I get a white AP/IB performance number at Banneker and DCI of >=90%. There are too few students to report an AP/IB participation rate at Banneker. At DCI the participation rate is reported as 89.47%. Are you sure you’re looking at the right number? (The performance number at Latin is technically just under 90% but it’s over 89.5 so I rounded up.)

And I agree, it’s not like only white students matter. But OSSE doesn’t give us data based on parents’ education or middle school, two factors beyond the control of any high school that are strongly associated with AP/IB performance. Since the white population of DC is not very socioeconomically diverse, it’s a decent proxy for students from college-educated homes who attended decent middle schools.

It should not matter what the education level or SES of the families are.

You're right, it shouldn't. But anyone who's spent 10 seconds paying attention knows SES makes a huge difference (in average, of course) in all educational outcomes.

You need to spend more than 10 seconds thinking about this. The research is very clear that it is the education level of the parents that drives educational outcomes for kids. Of course, parents who are highly educated tend to make more money but the causality for student educational outcomes is parental education level.

The “socio” part of socioeconomic includes education level. Anyway the point is that virtually all white adults in DC have college degrees, and no other demographic group tracked by OSSE is anywhere near so uniform in terms of parental education. So if you want to know about the outcomes at a particular school for students whose parents have college degrees, the OSSE data for white students is a pretty good proxy. Just bear in mind that you’re using a proxy stat, and there are a lot of non-white adults in DC with college degrees, too.

And yes, parents’ education level shouldn’t matter to AP/IB pass rate, but it does. In fact I suspect that the reason the College Board prefers to report 3+ data, rather than the 4+ data everyone here would prefer to see, is that there’s an even stronger correlation for 4+.

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Anonymous wrote:The 2021-22 AP/IB performance numbers are in the OSSE school report cards for the individual schools. https://osse.dc.gov/dcschoolreportcard. They include charters. And they’re broken down by race. The schools with a 90% pass rate or better for white students are Basis, Walls, DCI, Banneker, and Latin.

Not sure where you are getting that.

If you look at white students, Basis is at 94%, Walls 93%; Latin and DCI are just below 90%; and Banneker has too few white students to provide a percentage.

Plus, just looking at white students is misleading given how diverse the above schools are.

When I follow the link, I get a white AP/IB performance number at Banneker and DCI of >=90%. There are too few students to report an AP/IB participation rate at Banneker. At DCI the participation rate is reported as 89.47%. Are you sure you’re looking at the right number? (The performance number at Latin is technically just under 90% but it’s over 89.5 so I rounded up.)

And I agree, it’s not like only white students matter. But OSSE doesn’t give us data based on parents’ education or middle school, two factors beyond the control of any high school that are strongly associated with AP/IB performance. Since the white population of DC is not very socioeconomically diverse, it’s a decent proxy for students from college-educated homes who attended decent middle schools.

It should not matter what the education level or SES of the families are. You are taking a test based on the content and curriculum of a course being taught.

If the course is rigorous and covers all the relevant material then the kids should at least score a 3 minimum which is not hard to do. But 4 and 5 is what your standards should be.

I took a number of AP courses, did not study for any of the exams and easily got 3 no problem, some 4’s. Just walked in and took the test.

No offense but why should I set standards for my kids based on your personal, subjective experience with AP tests back in some random high school somewhere?

Set whatever standard you want. You want lower standards feel free. But you won’t be getting any college credits with a 3. Their standard to mastering the course and getting credit has always been a 4 or 5.

3 is mediocre and if that is the standard you want to set, go for it.

Huh?

NP but I think PP is saying a 3 doesn’t really mean much. And they’re right. It doesn’t get college credit, doesn’t indicate mastery of content, etc.

But getting a 5 on an AP exam like AP Chemistry or AP Physics is a big accomplishment. Only about 10% of students across the US get a 5 in these specific exams. A 3 on these exams is pretty good. You won’t get to skip the intro college courses for these subjects with an AP score of a 3 but when you take the college course, it should be significantly easier for the student than if they never took the AP class

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Anonymous wrote:The 2021-22 AP/IB performance numbers are in the OSSE school report cards for the individual schools. https://osse.dc.gov/dcschoolreportcard. They include charters. And they’re broken down by race. The schools with a 90% pass rate or better for white students are Basis, Walls, DCI, Banneker, and Latin.

Not sure where you are getting that.

If you look at white students, Basis is at 94%, Walls 93%; Latin and DCI are just below 90%; and Banneker has too few white students to provide a percentage.

Plus, just looking at white students is misleading given how diverse the above schools are.

When I follow the link, I get a white AP/IB performance number at Banneker and DCI of >=90%. There are too few students to report an AP/IB participation rate at Banneker. At DCI the participation rate is reported as 89.47%. Are you sure you’re looking at the right number? (The performance number at Latin is technically just under 90% but it’s over 89.5 so I rounded up.)

Family Income and very specifically the educational attainment of the mother are the two biggest factors on academic success. You may not like that but it doesn’t make it less true.

And I agree, it’s not like only white students matter. But OSSE doesn’t give us data based on parents’ education or middle school, two factors beyond the control of any high school that are strongly associated with AP/IB performance. Since the white population of DC is not very socioeconomically diverse, it’s a decent proxy for students from college-educated homes who attended decent middle schools.

It should not matter what the education level or SES of the families are.

You're right, it shouldn't. But anyone who's spent 10 seconds paying attention knows SES makes a huge difference (in average, of course) in all educational outcomes.

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Anonymous wrote:The 2021-22 AP/IB performance numbers are in the OSSE school report cards for the individual schools. https://osse.dc.gov/dcschoolreportcard. They include charters. And they’re broken down by race. The schools with a 90% pass rate or better for white students are Basis, Walls, DCI, Banneker, and Latin.

Not sure where you are getting that.

If you look at white students, Basis is at 94%, Walls 93%; Latin and DCI are just below 90%; and Banneker has too few white students to provide a percentage.

Plus, just looking at white students is misleading given how diverse the above schools are.

When I follow the link, I get a white AP/IB performance number at Banneker and DCI of >=90%. There are too few students to report an AP/IB participation rate at Banneker. At DCI the participation rate is reported as 89.47%. Are you sure you’re looking at the right number? (The performance number at Latin is technically just under 90% but it’s over 89.5 so I rounded up.)

And I agree, it’s not like only white students matter. But OSSE doesn’t give us data based on parents’ education or middle school, two factors beyond the control of any high school that are strongly associated with AP/IB performance. Since the white population of DC is not very socioeconomically diverse, it’s a decent proxy for students from college-educated homes who attended decent middle schools.

It should not matter what the education level or SES of the families are. You are taking a test based on the content and curriculum of a course being taught.

If the course is rigorous and covers all the relevant material then the kids should at least score a 3 minimum which is not hard to do. But 4 and 5 is what your standards should be.

I took a number of AP courses, did not study for any of the exams and easily got 3 no problem, some 4’s. Just walked in and took the test.

No offense but why should I set standards for my kids based on your personal, subjective experience with AP tests back in some random high school somewhere?

Set whatever standard you want. You want lower standards feel free. But you won’t be getting any college credits with a 3. Their standard to mastering the course and getting credit has always been a 4 or 5.

3 is mediocre and if that is the standard you want to set, go for it.

Huh?

NP but I think PP is saying a 3 doesn’t really mean much. And they’re right. It doesn’t get college credit, doesn’t indicate mastery of content, etc.

But getting a 5 on an AP exam like AP Chemistry or AP Physics is a big accomplishment. Only about 10% of students across the US get a 5 in these specific exams. A 3 on these exams is pretty good. You won’t get to skip the intro college courses for these subjects with an AP score of a 3 but when you take the college course, it should be significantly easier for the student than if they never took the AP class

PP and I agree with your take but most kids just want AP scores for college credit or admissions. A three doesn’t really accomplish much in either of those areas.

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Anonymous wrote:The 2021-22 AP/IB performance numbers are in the OSSE school report cards for the individual schools. https://osse.dc.gov/dcschoolreportcard. They include charters. And they’re broken down by race. The schools with a 90% pass rate or better for white students are Basis, Walls, DCI, Banneker, and Latin.

Not sure where you are getting that.

If you look at white students, Basis is at 94%, Walls 93%; Latin and DCI are just below 90%; and Banneker has too few white students to provide a percentage.

Plus, just looking at white students is misleading given how diverse the above schools are.

When I follow the link, I get a white AP/IB performance number at Banneker and DCI of >=90%. There are too few students to report an AP/IB participation rate at Banneker. At DCI the participation rate is reported as 89.47%. Are you sure you’re looking at the right number? (The performance number at Latin is technically just under 90% but it’s over 89.5 so I rounded up.)

And I agree, it’s not like only white students matter. But OSSE doesn’t give us data based on parents’ education or middle school, two factors beyond the control of any high school that are strongly associated with AP/IB performance. Since the white population of DC is not very socioeconomically diverse, it’s a decent proxy for students from college-educated homes who attended decent middle schools.

It should not matter what the education level or SES of the families are. You are taking a test based on the content and curriculum of a course being taught.

If the course is rigorous and covers all the relevant material then the kids should at least score a 3 minimum which is not hard to do. But 4 and 5 is what your standards should be.

I took a number of AP courses, did not study for any of the exams and easily got 3 no problem, some 4’s. Just walked in and took the test.

No offense but why should I set standards for my kids based on your personal, subjective experience with AP tests back in some random high school somewhere?

Set whatever standard you want. You want lower standards feel free. But you won’t be getting any college credits with a 3. Their standard to mastering the course and getting credit has always been a 4 or 5.

3 is mediocre and if that is the standard you want to set, go for it.

NP but I think PP is saying a 3 doesn’t really mean much. And they’re right. It doesn’t get college credit, doesn’t indicate mastery of content, etc.

You're all wrong, do your research. AP World, for example...https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/getting-credit-placement/search-policies/course/37

Now, if you'd care to admit that you're elitist about where kids go to college, that's another thing. Most Ivy's take 5s, some 4s, if that.