Vacations with kids clubs etc

[Anonymous]

Mommy martyrs : there is a huge industry around kids clubs at resorts, stop pretending like you don’t know what OP wants and that it’s a weird request. You know it’s not, you’re just being self righteous b-itches because you have nothing better to do with your lives and no interests or hobbies other than your children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When we went to Sea Island we just hired a local nanny who was a schoolteacher off for the summer. She worked the hours we wanted (afternoons and evenings) and was allowed to take DS to anything on property. For the money and flexibility this is probably ultimately a better deal than trying to find the perfect kids club.

Sea island has a great kids club!

[Anonymous]

I also feel sad for the kids who are stuck bored out of their minds with mommy for an entire vacation when they could be going on cool adventures with kids clubs! Sorry you ladies can’t afford those (yes it’s obvious you’re jealous).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Put them in camp near where you live now. Hire a sitter to stay at your house and care for them while you are home. If you want a camp during the day and evenings I’m not sure why you’re even taking them with you.

In my regular life, kid is in day camp during breaks. He needs the activity and socialization, and I can't provide that myself. I want the same on vacation. I still want him with me though. When I say evening option, I am talking about being able to go out for dinner sans kid one night, not all the nights.

In 14 years of parenting 2 kids, I’ve never sent them anywhere on vacation and we still enjoyed our vacations and had nice times. But I also was/am a SAHM and didn’t sent them places on every school break either. I think you have an unrealistic view of parenting.

This might have been what you thought was best, but probably wasn’t actually best for your kids or your marriage. Kids want and need to play with other kids. They don’t want to hang with mommy and daddy 24-7. You also need time alone with your spouse. The moms who stay at home and have no life or privacy from their kids need to really reconsider what they are doing to their kids. I had a mom like this so I know.

[Anonymous]

Sea island is your best bet since you say he likes the outdoors. Their kids club is great.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for all the great suggestions!! I did get great ideas from this and am exploring them.

I assume somebody miserable picked me as their mommy-shaming target, and I am not having it. Just because someone is different from you, does not make them "terrible." I enjoy a strong connection with my child because I recognize his actual needs, not because I spend every minute with him (which would definitely not meet his needs). You would not stay on topic despite several well intentioned corrections from several posters. You're obnoxious. You're judgmental. Your point of view is archaic. I don't believe you're a decent person, a person with a good understanding of the world around her, or a person who has real joy (prerequisites for being a good mom). GTFOH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Put them in camp near where you live now. Hire a sitter to stay at your house and care for them while you are home. If you want a camp during the day and evenings I’m not sure why you’re even taking them with you.

In my regular life, kid is in day camp during breaks. He needs the activity and socialization, and I can't provide that myself. I want the same on vacation. I still want him with me though. When I say evening option, I am talking about being able to go out for dinner sans kid one night, not all the nights.

In 14 years of parenting 2 kids, I’ve never sent them anywhere on vacation and we still enjoyed our vacations and had nice times. But I also was/am a SAHM and didn’t sent them places on every school break either. I think you have an unrealistic view of parenting.

This might have been what you thought was best, but probably wasn’t actually best for your kids or your marriage. Kids want and need to play with other kids. They don’t want to hang with mommy and daddy 24-7. You also need time alone with your spouse. The moms who stay at home and have no life or privacy from their kids need to really reconsider what they are doing to their kids. I had a mom like this so I know.

Right and it’s so different now from when I was a kid with a SAHM. Back then, I was with neighborhood kids all day long and on vacation with stranger kids from the room/cabin next door. These new mommy martyrs don’t let their kids out of their sight except for scheduled play dates/paid activities. It’s not the same and you’re harming your children!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for all the great suggestions!! I did get great ideas from this and am exploring them.

I assume somebody miserable picked me as their mommy-shaming target, and I am not having it. Just because someone is different from you, does not make them "terrible." I enjoy a strong connection with my child because I recognize his actual needs, not because I spend every minute with him (which would definitely not meet his needs). You would not stay on topic despite several well intentioned corrections from several posters. You're obnoxious. You're judgmental. Your point of view is archaic. I don't believe you're a decent person, a person with a good understanding of the world around her, or a person who has real joy (prerequisites for being a good mom). GTFOH.

Kudos to you OP! Let us know what you decide on, we’re thinking of a similar vacation next year!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP. I’m not sure what is wrong with the people on this thread. Your request is normal and reasonable. Thankfully you have gotten a few good answers thrown in.

You must have some really terrible kids if you think this it’s normal to have your in childcare 6-8 hours a day, every day of vacation. You can’t be serious.

Look, I never did it, but maybe I should have (kids are now teens). Kids went to day camp here so why not day camp at a beach location. I think it’s still important to take family trips where you do spend most time together but on a sometimes basis this is a great idea. I’d look at something like Bar Harbir and see if there are any cool nature day camps for kids his age and rent a house.

The only person I’ve ever known IRL as anti-kid as OP openly admitted she shouldn’t have had a kid. OP is not talking a few hours here and there. She is talking all day every day for a month or a summer. I don’t think anyone on here is fully grasping that. But whatever. He’s not my kid or yours and his situation is what it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP. I’m not sure what is wrong with the people on this thread. Your request is normal and reasonable. Thankfully you have gotten a few good answers thrown in.

You must have some really terrible kids if you think this it’s normal to have your in childcare 6-8 hours a day, every day of vacation. You can’t be serious.

Look, I never did it, but maybe I should have (kids are now teens). Kids went to day camp here so why not day camp at a beach location. I think it’s still important to take family trips where you do spend most time together but on a sometimes basis this is a great idea. I’d look at something like Bar Harbir and see if there are any cool nature day camps for kids his age and rent a house.

The only person I’ve ever known IRL as anti-kid as OP openly admitted she shouldn’t have had a kid. OP is not talking a few hours here and there. She is talking all day every day for a month or a summer. I don’t think anyone on here is fully grasping that. But whatever. He’s not my kid or yours and his situation is what it is.

She didn't even say she needed it every day, people just jumped down her throat to assume. Maybe the day she wanted the kids club in the evening she would be with him during the day. 9-3 is not even "all day" especially if the kid wakes up early as most do when they are young

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Put them in camp near where you live now. Hire a sitter to stay at your house and care for them while you are home. If you want a camp during the day and evenings I’m not sure why you’re even taking them with you.

In my regular life, kid is in day camp during breaks. He needs the activity and socialization, and I can't provide that myself. I want the same on vacation. I still want him with me though. When I say evening option, I am talking about being able to go out for dinner sans kid one night, not all the nights.

In 14 years of parenting 2 kids, I’ve never sent them anywhere on vacation and we still enjoyed our vacations and had nice times. But I also was/am a SAHM and didn’t sent them places on every school break either. I think you have an unrealistic view of parenting.

This might have been what you thought was best, but probably wasn’t actually best for your kids or your marriage. Kids want and need to play with other kids. They don’t want to hang with mommy and daddy 24-7. You also need time alone with your spouse. The moms who stay at home and have no life or privacy from their kids need to really reconsider what they are doing to their kids. I had a mom like this so I know.

Right and it’s so different now from when I was a kid with a SAHM. Back then, I was with neighborhood kids all day long and on vacation with stranger kids from the room/cabin next door. These new mommy martyrs don’t let their kids out of their sight except for scheduled play dates/paid activities. It’s not the same and you’re harming your children!

Same here, I was 80s kid and was out of the house morning to sundown, riding bikes, having adventures, organizing our block into teams for Capture the Flag and Ghost in the Graveyard, and sometimes we put on plays. With zero adult direction. Riding bikes to the pool. Playing hours-long games of Risk. Etc. Mom was there to give a snack if you risked running home and leaving the fun. I guess on a rainy day I'd be stuck inside with mom. She might let me help her make Rice Krispy Treats, or might direct me in doing art. That was nice occasionally, but what I really wanted was to play with friends. Vacations were hard because I didn't always have someone my age to play with. And I had sisters! But at certain ages they excluded me. I wish there had been a kids club!

Childhoods like ours might still exist some places, but the ideal was never that kids spend 24/7 with their SAHM. It's weird that this PP thinks so, and that both she and her DH find it acceptable. Trust, the kids don't find it acceptable, but they don't know better yet. Once they know there was a cool kid club to go to, but you kept them home while you watched Netflix and folded laundry? LOL.

My child does not have my childhood, but a safer and more privileged approximation of it. He has learned much more than I alone can teach him. Through camps, he has been exposed to yoga, karate, music, hiphop dancing, and many more sports/arts by people who are passionate about those things. He does four sports through the year. He expresses interest in an activity, I follow up on it. At camps, he also gets lots of free play in which he and his friends get to decide rules and negotiate how the soccer play will go. IMO, this is the business of childhood. Mom is security, comfort after adventures like that.

Now if the mommy martyr is still here, I would like her to explain how she can be 8 kids and a soccer ball for her kid, or why she thinks she needs to be there while that is happening. Personally, I'd rather be having: sex with my husband, a meal at a restaurant, a nap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Put them in camp near where you live now. Hire a sitter to stay at your house and care for them while you are home. If you want a camp during the day and evenings I’m not sure why you’re even taking them with you.

In my regular life, kid is in day camp during breaks. He needs the activity and socialization, and I can't provide that myself. I want the same on vacation. I still want him with me though. When I say evening option, I am talking about being able to go out for dinner sans kid one night, not all the nights.

In 14 years of parenting 2 kids, I’ve never sent them anywhere on vacation and we still enjoyed our vacations and had nice times. But I also was/am a SAHM and didn’t sent them places on every school break either. I think you have an unrealistic view of parenting.

This might have been what you thought was best, but probably wasn’t actually best for your kids or your marriage. Kids want and need to play with other kids. They don’t want to hang with mommy and daddy 24-7. You also need time alone with your spouse. The moms who stay at home and have no life or privacy from their kids need to really reconsider what they are doing to their kids. I had a mom like this so I know.

Right and it’s so different now from when I was a kid with a SAHM. Back then, I was with neighborhood kids all day long and on vacation with stranger kids from the room/cabin next door. These new mommy martyrs don’t let their kids out of their sight except for scheduled play dates/paid activities. It’s not the same and you’re harming your children!

Same here, I was 80s kid and was out of the house morning to sundown, riding bikes, having adventures, organizing our block into teams for Capture the Flag and Ghost in the Graveyard, and sometimes we put on plays. With zero adult direction. Riding bikes to the pool. Playing hours-long games of Risk. Etc. Mom was there to give a snack if you risked running home and leaving the fun. I guess on a rainy day I'd be stuck inside with mom. She might let me help her make Rice Krispy Treats, or might direct me in doing art. That was nice occasionally, but what I really wanted was to play with friends. Vacations were hard because I didn't always have someone my age to play with. And I had sisters! But at certain ages they excluded me. I wish there had been a kids club!

Childhoods like ours might still exist some places, but the ideal was never that kids spend 24/7 with their SAHM. It's weird that this PP thinks so, and that both she and her DH find it acceptable. Trust, the kids don't find it acceptable, but they don't know better yet. Once they know there was a cool kid club to go to, but you kept them home while you watched Netflix and folded laundry? LOL.

My child does not have my childhood, but a safer and more privileged approximation of it. He has learned much more than I alone can teach him. Through camps, he has been exposed to yoga, karate, music, hiphop dancing, and many more sports/arts by people who are passionate about those things. He does four sports through the year. He expresses interest in an activity, I follow up on it. At camps, he also gets lots of free play in which he and his friends get to decide rules and negotiate how the soccer play will go. IMO, this is the business of childhood. Mom is security, comfort after adventures like that.

Now if the mommy martyr is still here, I would like her to explain how she can be 8 kids and a soccer ball for her kid, or why she thinks she needs to be there while that is happening. Personally, I'd rather be having: sex with my husband, a meal at a restaurant, a nap.

Preach!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP. I’m not sure what is wrong with the people on this thread. Your request is normal and reasonable. Thankfully you have gotten a few good answers thrown in.

You must have some really terrible kids if you think this it’s normal to have your in childcare 6-8 hours a day, every day of vacation. You can’t be serious.

Look, I never did it, but maybe I should have (kids are now teens). Kids went to day camp here so why not day camp at a beach location. I think it’s still important to take family trips where you do spend most time together but on a sometimes basis this is a great idea. I’d look at something like Bar Harbir and see if there are any cool nature day camps for kids his age and rent a house.

The only person I’ve ever known IRL as anti-kid as OP openly admitted she shouldn’t have had a kid. OP is not talking a few hours here and there. She is talking all day every day for a month or a summer. I don’t think anyone on here is fully grasping that. But whatever. He’s not my kid or yours and his situation is what it is.

Keep doubling down, PP, we all know you’re full of shit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP. I’m not sure what is wrong with the people on this thread. Your request is normal and reasonable. Thankfully you have gotten a few good answers thrown in.

You must have some really terrible kids if you think this it’s normal to have your in childcare 6-8 hours a day, every day of vacation. You can’t be serious.

Look, I never did it, but maybe I should have (kids are now teens). Kids went to day camp here so why not day camp at a beach location. I think it’s still important to take family trips where you do spend most time together but on a sometimes basis this is a great idea. I’d look at something like Bar Harbir and see if there are any cool nature day camps for kids his age and rent a house.

The only person I’ve ever known IRL as anti-kid as OP openly admitted she shouldn’t have had a kid. OP is not talking a few hours here and there. She is talking all day every day for a month or a summer. I don’t think anyone on here is fully grasping that. But whatever. He’s not my kid or yours and his situation is what it is.

LOL it sure sounds like YOU need a vacation or a stiff drink.

[Anonymous]

If you want somewhere driving distance, I second Nemacolin or Omni Homestead. Both have half day options or I think whole day, and some evenings- so you have flexibility. Things for him to do alone and activities like bowling, swimming, outside stuff, you can do as a family. They both have nice Spas, hiking/walking, restaurants for you when he is in kids club.