APS & diagnosing learning disabilities

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Infuriating.

Both of you, grow up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

They are pure trash.

Not sure who you're referring to, but I'm in SEPTA and I saw the closed schooler/forced masker leader emailing us, saying we should use the ADA last spring to force classes to mask. They definitely don't speak for the vast majority of SWD parents. It was infuriating.

“Closed schoolers?” “Forced maskers?” Mmmkay, pandemic denier. You’re infuriating.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

They are pure trash.

Not sure who you're referring to, but I'm in SEPTA and I saw the closed schooler/forced masker leader emailing us, saying we should use the ADA last spring to force classes to mask. They definitely don't speak for the vast majority of SWD parents. It was infuriating.

“Forced maskers”? “Closed schoolers”?

You are the trash.

Remember when certain SWDs finally got back into the buildings in November 2020, but with an iPad and a low paid teacher's aide, instead of a teacher and in contravention of state guidance. Did these organizations say anything?

Seriously, get therapy. You need it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

They are pure trash.

Not sure who you're referring to, but I'm in SEPTA and I saw the closed schooler/forced masker leader emailing us, saying we should use the ADA last spring to force classes to mask. They definitely don't speak for the vast majority of SWD parents. It was infuriating.

You sound pretty ignorant of SEPTA efforts. SEPTA advocated for in-person education for students with disabilities very early on back in 2020. SEPTA also advocated for accommodations for immunocompromised students with disabilities so they too can go to school. Sorry you have a problem with the ADA.

The ADA has never been intrepreted to force interventions on whole classes of students. And if you want a conservative Supreme Court to automatically slap that down (and possibly gut the ADA) for your own phobias, then keep going.

Did immunocompromised kids never exist before? H1N1 is estimated to have killed more kids in less than 6 months than COVID did annually. What did we do then? Did we ever force mask entire classes? Is there not home bound instruction?

It's important for my SWD son to see other kids' and their teachers' faces. It's important for any child, but especially hearing and speech impaired.

God, you really do insist on parroting every Right Wing, COVID minimizing talking point, don’t you? Are you intent on being a caricature?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

They are pure trash.

Not sure who you're referring to, but I'm in SEPTA and I saw the closed schooler/forced masker leader emailing us, saying we should use the ADA last spring to force classes to mask. They definitely don't speak for the vast majority of SWD parents. It was infuriating.

You sound pretty ignorant of SEPTA efforts. SEPTA advocated for in-person education for students with disabilities very early on back in 2020. SEPTA also advocated for accommodations for immunocompromised students with disabilities so they too can go to school. Sorry you have a problem with the ADA.

The ADA has never been intrepreted to force interventions on whole classes of students. And if you want a conservative Supreme Court to automatically slap that down (and possibly gut the ADA) for your own phobias, then keep going.

Did immunocompromised kids never exist before? H1N1 is estimated to have killed more kids in less than 6 months than COVID did annually. What did we do then? Did we ever force mask entire classes? Is there not home bound instruction?

It's important for my SWD son to see other kids' and their teachers' faces. It's important for any child, but especially hearing and speech impaired.

I was infuriated when I received that email last spring from SEPTA lady, trying to get us to use our disabled kids as warriors in her mask war. She definitely didn't speak for me or the parents of learning disabled kids I know.

“Mask war?” You don’t sound mature enough to raise children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

I am not an APE troll, and I 100% agree with this. I would also add that the "gifted" parents are well-organized and demanding, as well. Gifted is technically special ed, so time / resources spent on gifted is taken away from kids with learning disabilities. As a parent of a gifted learner, a neurodivergent learner, and a "regular" learner, it is absolutely infuriating that APS bends to the loud detractor PARENTS instead of doing what's right by the neurodivergent students.

Huh? APS does next to nothing for "gifted" kids. One staff member per school. I had a kid go through tagged regular and one kid go through gifted. It's really next to nothing and APS will tell you over and over the gifted extension work is pushed in to all kids and any kid can access it, which is great.

Special ed kids have dedicated aides in classrooms (not suggesting one on one but for the cluster in the classroom), pull outs with learning specialists multiple times a week, etc. Don't begrudge any of it but acting like they're not getting the most resources is absurd.

At many APS elementary schools more than 50% of kids are working above grade level. The gifted teacher shared by the entire school is providing appropriate extension materials for *all* of those kids, not just those flagged as gifted. It's not a spoil of riches or resources. Many more teachers and assistants are working with kids who are below grade level.

Non-APE troll here. I get that APS does next to nothing for gifted learners; I HAVE a gifted learner. But the gifted lobby hounds APS admin constantly. It takes time, attention, and yes, resources - because APS admin has to listen to these folks and engage with them - away from the fact that APS is completely failing our neurodivergent students. APS admin seems to think that all parents are just complaining. As a parent of both a gifted learner and a neurodivergent learner, I guarantee you that the way APS is failing neurodivergent learners is much, much worse than they way it is failing gifted learners. But the gifted-learner parents are complaining just as much.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I've never seem or heard of parents of gifted learners hounding the administration at our elementary school. Most parents just find ways to challenge their gifted kids outside of school.

I am aware of parents of kids with special needs hiring advocates to make sure their kids get appropriate services.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Infuriating.

These are completely different things. I’m sure three years ago
you would find they were “dominated” by people who believe that the moon landing happened.

[Anonymous]

Public schools have a legal obligation to comply with IEPs and 504s. Private schools do not and will (personal experience) have lots of parental involvement to make us feel engaged, but do nothing. They don’t need to, but they need to talk, a lot, about the benefits of smaller schools.

In publics once you have the 504 or IEP you can push for a lot, and they HAVE to deliver.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Infuriating.

These are completely different things. I’m sure three years ago
you would find they were “dominated” by people who believe that the moon landing happened.

Ohhhh myyyy.

[Anonymous]

APS tried very very hard to challenge my son’s dyslexia diagnosis. Kept telling us that boys his age are just slow to pick up reading sometimes. I found it monstrous. My understanding is that the reception parents/students receive varies by school. We decided to put him in a specialized school rather than continue to have teachers be ok with the fact that he couldn’t write a sentence and his decoding skills were in the bottom 5th percentile. Parents need to advocate, but they also need to be realistic about the level of remediation APS can actually achieve, even with a solid IEP in place. I was mad at APS, sure, but being repelled from the system was the best thing that could have happened to us in the end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:APS tried very very hard to challenge my son’s dyslexia diagnosis. Kept telling us that boys his age are just slow to pick up reading sometimes. I found it monstrous. My understanding is that the reception parents/students receive varies by school. We decided to put him in a specialized school rather than continue to have teachers be ok with the fact that he couldn’t write a sentence and his decoding skills were in the bottom 5th percentile. Parents need to advocate, but they also need to be realistic about the level of remediation APS can actually achieve, even with a solid IEP in place. I was mad at APS, sure, but being repelled from the system was the best thing that could have happened to us in the end.

can you tell us which school in APS was bad for you?

[Anonymous]

SEPTA is still not having their Phantom Ball fundraiser in person this year. In the announcement, they reference not having to be "socially distant" or follow CDC guidelines by being virtual. I had to double-check to make sure this wasn't a post from Fall 2020!

The US is down to like 5% of nutters who live like this, and they obviously control SEPTA. It's too bad that they control 1 of the 2 organizations that I'm a part of because of my dyslexic son.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SEPTA is still not having their Phantom Ball fundraiser in person this year. In the announcement, they reference not having to be "socially distant" or follow CDC guidelines by being virtual. I had to double-check to make sure this wasn't a post from Fall 2020!

The US is down to like 5% of nutters who live like this, and they obviously control SEPTA. It's too bad that they control 1 of the 2 organizations that I'm a part of because of my dyslexic son.

Instead of b1tching about it you could offer to organize a fundraising event yourself. Or better yet just write a big check.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SEPTA is still not having their Phantom Ball fundraiser in person this year. In the announcement, they reference not having to be "socially distant" or follow CDC guidelines by being virtual. I had to double-check to make sure this wasn't a post from Fall 2020!

The US is down to like 5% of nutters who live like this, and they obviously control SEPTA. It's too bad that they control 1 of the 2 organizations that I'm a part of because of my dyslexic son.

The same type of leaders who would send a mass email to SEPTA members in March 2022, trying to get SEPTA members to use the ADA to force APS students to wear masks. The leadership of SEPTA completely lost it with COVID, and still seems to be losing it.

Meanwhile, tons of other PTAs had great in person fundraisers this past spring.

[Anonymous]

Excuse me. Before I even read this thread I need to take several deep breaths.