APS & diagnosing learning disabilities

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

I am not an APE troll, and I 100% agree with this. I would also add that the "gifted" parents are well-organized and demanding, as well. Gifted is technically special ed, so time / resources spent on gifted is taken away from kids with learning disabilities. As a parent of a gifted learner, a neurodivergent learner, and a "regular" learner, it is absolutely infuriating that APS bends to the loud detractor PARENTS instead of doing what's right by the neurodivergent students.

This doesn't sound right. The gifted teacher is not the same as the sped staff who help with learning disabilities. Why invent a battle for resources that doesn't exist? Gifted kids in elementary get the minimum the schools can provide: usually one gifted teacher shared by the whole school and minimal differentiation by the classroom teacher. Kids below grade level get all other available resources, specialists, assistants and staffing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

I am not an APE troll, and I 100% agree with this. I would also add that the "gifted" parents are well-organized and demanding, as well. Gifted is technically special ed, so time / resources spent on gifted is taken away from kids with learning disabilities. As a parent of a gifted learner, a neurodivergent learner, and a "regular" learner, it is absolutely infuriating that APS bends to the loud detractor PARENTS instead of doing what's right by the neurodivergent students.

Huh? APS does next to nothing for "gifted" kids. One staff member per school. I had a kid go through tagged regular and one kid go through gifted. It's really next to nothing and APS will tell you over and over the gifted extension work is pushed in to all kids and any kid can access it, which is great.

Special ed kids have dedicated aides in classrooms (not suggesting one on one but for the cluster in the classroom), pull outs with learning specialists multiple times a week, etc. Don't begrudge any of it but acting like they're not getting the most resources is absurd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

I am not an APE troll, and I 100% agree with this. I would also add that the "gifted" parents are well-organized and demanding, as well. Gifted is technically special ed, so time / resources spent on gifted is taken away from kids with learning disabilities. As a parent of a gifted learner, a neurodivergent learner, and a "regular" learner, it is absolutely infuriating that APS bends to the loud detractor PARENTS instead of doing what's right by the neurodivergent students.

Huh? APS does next to nothing for "gifted" kids. One staff member per school. I had a kid go through tagged regular and one kid go through gifted. It's really next to nothing and APS will tell you over and over the gifted extension work is pushed in to all kids and any kid can access it, which is great.

Special ed kids have dedicated aides in classrooms (not suggesting one on one but for the cluster in the classroom), pull outs with learning specialists multiple times a week, etc. Don't begrudge any of it but acting like they're not getting the most resources is absurd.

At many APS elementary schools more than 50% of kids are working above grade level. The gifted teacher shared by the entire school is providing appropriate extension materials for *all* of those kids, not just those flagged as gifted. It's not a spoil of riches or resources. Many more teachers and assistants are working with kids who are below grade level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

They are pure trash.

Not sure who you're referring to, but I'm in SEPTA and I saw the closed schooler/forced masker leader emailing us, saying we should use the ADA last spring to force classes to mask. They definitely don't speak for the vast majority of SWD parents. It was infuriating.

You sound pretty ignorant of SEPTA efforts. SEPTA advocated for in-person education for students with disabilities very early on back in 2020. SEPTA also advocated for accommodations for immunocompromised students with disabilities so they too can go to school. Sorry you have a problem with the ADA.

The ADA has never been intrepreted to force interventions on whole classes of students. And if you want a conservative Supreme Court to automatically slap that down (and possibly gut the ADA) for your own phobias, then keep going.

Did immunocompromised kids never exist before? H1N1 is estimated to have killed more kids in less than 6 months than COVID did annually. What did we do then? Did we ever force mask entire classes? Is there not home bound instruction?

It's important for my SWD son to see other kids' and their teachers' faces. It's important for any child, but especially hearing and speech impaired.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

They are pure trash.

Not sure who you're referring to, but I'm in SEPTA and I saw the closed schooler/forced masker leader emailing us, saying we should use the ADA last spring to force classes to mask. They definitely don't speak for the vast majority of SWD parents. It was infuriating.

You sound pretty ignorant of SEPTA efforts. SEPTA advocated for in-person education for students with disabilities very early on back in 2020. SEPTA also advocated for accommodations for immunocompromised students with disabilities so they too can go to school. Sorry you have a problem with the ADA.

The ADA has never been intrepreted to force interventions on whole classes of students. And if you want a conservative Supreme Court to automatically slap that down (and possibly gut the ADA) for your own phobias, then keep going.

Did immunocompromised kids never exist before? H1N1 is estimated to have killed more kids in less than 6 months than COVID did annually. What did we do then? Did we ever force mask entire classes? Is there not home bound instruction?

It's important for my SWD son to see other kids' and their teachers' faces. It's important for any child, but especially hearing and speech impaired.

I was infuriated when I received that email last spring from SEPTA lady, trying to get us to use our disabled kids as warriors in her mask war. She definitely didn't speak for me or the parents of learning disabled kids I know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

They are pure trash.

Not sure who you're referring to, but I'm in SEPTA and I saw the closed schooler/forced masker leader emailing us, saying we should use the ADA last spring to force classes to mask. They definitely don't speak for the vast majority of SWD parents. It was infuriating.

You sound pretty ignorant of SEPTA efforts. SEPTA advocated for in-person education for students with disabilities very early on back in 2020. SEPTA also advocated for accommodations for immunocompromised students with disabilities so they too can go to school. Sorry you have a problem with the ADA.

The ADA has never been intrepreted to force interventions on whole classes of students. And if you want a conservative Supreme Court to automatically slap that down (and possibly gut the ADA) for your own phobias, then keep going.

Did immunocompromised kids never exist before? H1N1 is estimated to have killed more kids in less than 6 months than COVID did annually. What did we do then? Did we ever force mask entire classes? Is there not home bound instruction?

It's important for my SWD son to see other kids' and their teachers' faces. It's important for any child, but especially hearing and speech impaired.

I was infuriated when I received that email last spring from SEPTA lady, trying to get us to use our disabled kids as warriors in her mask war. She definitely didn't speak for me or the parents of learning disabled kids I know.

I have a kid who needs ADA accommodations to be in school and I was very grateful. Why are you so against other kids getting what they need to be in school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

They are pure trash.

Not sure who you're referring to, but I'm in SEPTA and I saw the closed schooler/forced masker leader emailing us, saying we should use the ADA last spring to force classes to mask. They definitely don't speak for the vast majority of SWD parents. It was infuriating.

You sound pretty ignorant of SEPTA efforts. SEPTA advocated for in-person education for students with disabilities very early on back in 2020. SEPTA also advocated for accommodations for immunocompromised students with disabilities so they too can go to school. Sorry you have a problem with the ADA.

The ADA has never been intrepreted to force interventions on whole classes of students. And if you want a conservative Supreme Court to automatically slap that down (and possibly gut the ADA) for your own phobias, then keep going.

Did immunocompromised kids never exist before? H1N1 is estimated to have killed more kids in less than 6 months than COVID did annually. What did we do then? Did we ever force mask entire classes? Is there not home bound instruction?

It's important for my SWD son to see other kids' and their teachers' faces. It's important for any child, but especially hearing and speech impaired.

No, I don't think you're right legally on this. At all. Sorry, as that is clearly very upsetting for you and your anti mask, Covid is no big deal crusade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

They are pure trash.

Not sure who you're referring to, but I'm in SEPTA and I saw the closed schooler/forced masker leader emailing us, saying we should use the ADA last spring to force classes to mask. They definitely don't speak for the vast majority of SWD parents. It was infuriating.

“Forced maskers”? “Closed schoolers”?

You are the trash.

Remember when certain SWDs finally got back into the buildings in November 2020, but with an iPad and a low paid teacher's aide, instead of a teacher and in contravention of state guidance. Did these organizations say anything?

You sound pretty ignorant. The SWDs would not even have gotten back in to the buildings in Nov 2020 without these organizations. But then it's easier for you to just call everyone outside of APE "closed schoolers" isn't it?

+1

Classic APE: ignorant, irrational bullies

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

They are pure trash.

Not sure who you're referring to, but I'm in SEPTA and I saw the closed schooler/forced masker leader emailing us, saying we should use the ADA last spring to force classes to mask. They definitely don't speak for the vast majority of SWD parents. It was infuriating.

“Forced maskers”? “Closed schoolers”?

You are the trash.

Remember when certain SWDs finally got back into the buildings in November 2020, but with an iPad and a low paid teacher's aide, instead of a teacher and in contravention of state guidance. Did these organizations say anything?

You sound pretty ignorant. The SWDs would not even have gotten back in to the buildings in Nov 2020 without these organizations. But then it's easier for you to just call everyone outside of APE "closed schoolers" isn't it?

+1

Classic APE: ignorant, irrational bullies

+1000
and mean

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

They are pure trash.

Not sure who you're referring to, but I'm in SEPTA and I saw the closed schooler/forced masker leader emailing us, saying we should use the ADA last spring to force classes to mask. They definitely don't speak for the vast majority of SWD parents. It was infuriating.

You sound pretty ignorant of SEPTA efforts. SEPTA advocated for in-person education for students with disabilities very early on back in 2020. SEPTA also advocated for accommodations for immunocompromised students with disabilities so they too can go to school. Sorry you have a problem with the ADA.

The ADA has never been intrepreted to force interventions on whole classes of students. And if you want a conservative Supreme Court to automatically slap that down (and possibly gut the ADA) for your own phobias, then keep going.

Did immunocompromised kids never exist before? H1N1 is estimated to have killed more kids in less than 6 months than COVID did annually. What did we do then? Did we ever force mask entire classes? Is there not home bound instruction?

It's important for my SWD son to see other kids' and their teachers' faces. It's important for any child, but especially hearing and speech impaired.

I was infuriated when I received that email last spring from SEPTA lady, trying to get us to use our disabled kids as warriors in her mask war. She definitely didn't speak for me or the parents of learning disabled kids I know.

I have a kid who needs ADA accommodations to be in school and I was very grateful. Why are you so against other kids getting what they need to be in school?

Your child needed every other kid forcibly masked? No, you didn't (and no does).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

They are pure trash.

Not sure who you're referring to, but I'm in SEPTA and I saw the closed schooler/forced masker leader emailing us, saying we should use the ADA last spring to force classes to mask. They definitely don't speak for the vast majority of SWD parents. It was infuriating.

You sound pretty ignorant of SEPTA efforts. SEPTA advocated for in-person education for students with disabilities very early on back in 2020. SEPTA also advocated for accommodations for immunocompromised students with disabilities so they too can go to school. Sorry you have a problem with the ADA.

The ADA has never been intrepreted to force interventions on whole classes of students. And if you want a conservative Supreme Court to automatically slap that down (and possibly gut the ADA) for your own phobias, then keep going.

Did immunocompromised kids never exist before? H1N1 is estimated to have killed more kids in less than 6 months than COVID did annually. What did we do then? Did we ever force mask entire classes? Is there not home bound instruction?

It's important for my SWD son to see other kids' and their teachers' faces. It's important for any child, but especially hearing and speech impaired.

I was infuriated when I received that email last spring from SEPTA lady, trying to get us to use our disabled kids as warriors in her mask war. She definitely didn't speak for me or the parents of learning disabled kids I know.

I have a kid who needs ADA accommodations to be in school and I was very grateful. Why are you so against other kids getting what they need to be in school?

Your child needed every other kid forcibly masked? No, you didn't (and no does).

Imagine someone thinking this. It's the modern day equivalent of leeching. And that's what SEPTA lady was sending around, trying to get some person to be a plaintiff to force mask other APS kids.

BTW, how many kids are in the VLP this year, which is restricted to medical reasons? Approximately 30, or 0.1% of the student population.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

I am not an APE troll, and I 100% agree with this. I would also add that the "gifted" parents are well-organized and demanding, as well. Gifted is technically special ed, so time / resources spent on gifted is taken away from kids with learning disabilities. As a parent of a gifted learner, a neurodivergent learner, and a "regular" learner, it is absolutely infuriating that APS bends to the loud detractor PARENTS instead of doing what's right by the neurodivergent students.

Huh? APS does next to nothing for "gifted" kids. One staff member per school. I had a kid go through tagged regular and one kid go through gifted. It's really next to nothing and APS will tell you over and over the gifted extension work is pushed in to all kids and any kid can access it, which is great.

Special ed kids have dedicated aides in classrooms (not suggesting one on one but for the cluster in the classroom), pull outs with learning specialists multiple times a week, etc. Don't begrudge any of it but acting like they're not getting the most resources is absurd.

At many APS elementary schools more than 50% of kids are working above grade level. The gifted teacher shared by the entire school is providing appropriate extension materials for *all* of those kids, not just those flagged as gifted. It's not a spoil of riches or resources. Many more teachers and assistants are working with kids who are below grade level.

Non-APE troll here. I get that APS does next to nothing for gifted learners; I HAVE a gifted learner. But the gifted lobby hounds APS admin constantly. It takes time, attention, and yes, resources - because APS admin has to listen to these folks and engage with them - away from the fact that APS is completely failing our neurodivergent students. APS admin seems to think that all parents are just complaining. As a parent of both a gifted learner and a neurodivergent learner, I guarantee you that the way APS is failing neurodivergent learners is much, much worse than they way it is failing gifted learners. But the gifted-learner parents are complaining just as much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

They are pure trash.

Not sure who you're referring to, but I'm in SEPTA and I saw the closed schooler/forced masker leader emailing us, saying we should use the ADA last spring to force classes to mask. They definitely don't speak for the vast majority of SWD parents. It was infuriating.

You sound pretty ignorant of SEPTA efforts. SEPTA advocated for in-person education for students with disabilities very early on back in 2020. SEPTA also advocated for accommodations for immunocompromised students with disabilities so they too can go to school. Sorry you have a problem with the ADA.

The ADA has never been intrepreted to force interventions on whole classes of students. And if you want a conservative Supreme Court to automatically slap that down (and possibly gut the ADA) for your own phobias, then keep going.

Did immunocompromised kids never exist before? H1N1 is estimated to have killed more kids in less than 6 months than COVID did annually. What did we do then? Did we ever force mask entire classes? Is there not home bound instruction?

It's important for my SWD son to see other kids' and their teachers' faces. It's important for any child, but especially hearing and speech impaired.

I was infuriated when I received that email last spring from SEPTA lady, trying to get us to use our disabled kids as warriors in her mask war. She definitely didn't speak for me or the parents of learning disabled kids I know.

I have a kid who needs ADA accommodations to be in school and I was very grateful. Why are you so against other kids getting what they need to be in school?

Your child needed every other kid forcibly masked? No, you didn't (and no does).

What are you talking about? Who is requiring masks in APS? I don't know of anyone that is so not sure what your beef is. But yes, if a child does require masking by others, then they can get it under the ADA in very specific circumstances. I highly highly doubt you will ever encounter this but if you ever do, it's disturbing to know what your reaction to this poor kid would be. It would probably be a kid on chemo or something similar for example. Have a little compassion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

They are pure trash.

Not sure who you're referring to, but I'm in SEPTA and I saw the closed schooler/forced masker leader emailing us, saying we should use the ADA last spring to force classes to mask. They definitely don't speak for the vast majority of SWD parents. It was infuriating.

You sound pretty ignorant of SEPTA efforts. SEPTA advocated for in-person education for students with disabilities very early on back in 2020. SEPTA also advocated for accommodations for immunocompromised students with disabilities so they too can go to school. Sorry you have a problem with the ADA.

The ADA has never been intrepreted to force interventions on whole classes of students. And if you want a conservative Supreme Court to automatically slap that down (and possibly gut the ADA) for your own phobias, then keep going.

Did immunocompromised kids never exist before? H1N1 is estimated to have killed more kids in less than 6 months than COVID did annually. What did we do then? Did we ever force mask entire classes? Is there not home bound instruction?

It's important for my SWD son to see other kids' and their teachers' faces. It's important for any child, but especially hearing and speech impaired.

I was infuriated when I received that email last spring from SEPTA lady, trying to get us to use our disabled kids as warriors in her mask war. She definitely didn't speak for me or the parents of learning disabled kids I know.

I have a kid who needs ADA accommodations to be in school and I was very grateful. Why are you so against other kids getting what they need to be in school?

Your child needed every other kid forcibly masked? No, you didn't (and no does).

Imagine someone thinking this. It's the modern day equivalent of leeching. And that's what SEPTA lady was sending around, trying to get some person to be a plaintiff to force mask other APS kids.

BTW, how many kids are in the VLP this year, which is restricted to medical reasons? Approximately 30, or 0.1% of the student population.

Umm, you're unhinged. SEPTA doesn't look for plaintiffs. That's not how this works at all. And leeching? LOL.

It's sad that you don't care if immunocompromised kids can be in school. I guess in person school is just for your kids and others like them. Your ableism is showing strong and it's not pretty.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately APS' parent disability groups (ASEAC and SEPTA) are dominated by closed schoolers and forced child maskers

Here come the APE trolls attacking the disability groups now. Have you no shame?

They are pure trash.

Not sure who you're referring to, but I'm in SEPTA and I saw the closed schooler/forced masker leader emailing us, saying we should use the ADA last spring to force classes to mask. They definitely don't speak for the vast majority of SWD parents. It was infuriating.

You sound pretty ignorant of SEPTA efforts. SEPTA advocated for in-person education for students with disabilities very early on back in 2020. SEPTA also advocated for accommodations for immunocompromised students with disabilities so they too can go to school. Sorry you have a problem with the ADA.

The ADA has never been intrepreted to force interventions on whole classes of students. And if you want a conservative Supreme Court to automatically slap that down (and possibly gut the ADA) for your own phobias, then keep going.

Did immunocompromised kids never exist before? H1N1 is estimated to have killed more kids in less than 6 months than COVID did annually. What did we do then? Did we ever force mask entire classes? Is there not home bound instruction?

It's important for my SWD son to see other kids' and their teachers' faces. It's important for any child, but especially hearing and speech impaired.

I was infuriated when I received that email last spring from SEPTA lady, trying to get us to use our disabled kids as warriors in her mask war. She definitely didn't speak for me or the parents of learning disabled kids I know.

I have a kid who needs ADA accommodations to be in school and I was very grateful. Why are you so against other kids getting what they need to be in school?

Your child needed every other kid forcibly masked? No, you didn't (and no does).

Imagine someone thinking this. It's the modern day equivalent of leeching. And that's what SEPTA lady was sending around, trying to get some person to be a plaintiff to force mask other APS kids.

BTW, how many kids are in the VLP this year, which is restricted to medical reasons? Approximately 30, or 0.1% of the student population.

Umm, you're unhinged. SEPTA doesn't look for plaintiffs. That's not how this works at all. And leeching? LOL.

It's sad that you don't care if immunocompromised kids can be in school. I guess in person school is just for your kids and others like them. Your ableism is showing strong and it's not pretty.

+ 1. This troll is on the side of Youngkin. Probably hates trans kids too.