Can someone explain what a “regional” university is?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a classification. This is where you find it:

https://carnegieclassifications.acenet.edu/

I think we just need to keep interjecting the correct answer periodically until people get that it has nothing to do with geography or the word regional.

I know. It’s interesting, isn’t it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a classification. This is where you find it:

https://carnegieclassifications.acenet.edu/

I think we just need to keep interjecting the correct answer periodically until people get that it has nothing to do with geography or the word regional.

Except it does. From USNWR ranking definitions:

"The 604 total Regional Universities (239 public, 350 private and 15 for-profit) are ranked within four geographic areas: North, South, Midwest and West."

Regional universities are ranked within four geographic regions.

Which region a regional university is ranked in depends on where they are located. But whether a school is regional or national seems to hinge on whether they offer certain advanced degrees, and not whether their appeal is actually regional.

The regional name is a misnomer. Also, as someone whose kid is looking at schools on several regional lists, as well as schools on the national list it’s confusing.

[Anonymous]

I honestly don’t GAF. I am looking at schools with the right mix of classes and programs at a somewhat reasonable price that my kid might be able to get into. Whether the schools are regional or National means nothing to me.

The name on my diploma got me in the door for interviews in my early years. That’s honestly it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a classification. This is where you find it:

https://carnegieclassifications.acenet.edu/

I think we just need to keep interjecting the correct answer periodically until people get that it has nothing to do with geography or the word regional.

Except it does. From USNWR ranking definitions:

"The 604 total Regional Universities (239 public, 350 private and 15 for-profit) are ranked within four geographic areas: North, South, Midwest and West."

Regional universities are ranked within four geographic regions.

They are classified as regional per Carnegie and then USNWR ranks them within regions. The latter provides bragging rights for programs, schools, and colleges/universities, and probably helps sell to parents and students. But the designation of regional comes from Carnegie. Wikipedia will tell you all this.

- Professor with a PhD from what used to be called a Research 1 university

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a classification. This is where you find it:

https://carnegieclassifications.acenet.edu/

I think we just need to keep interjecting the correct answer periodically until people get that it has nothing to do with geography or the word regional.

Except it does. From USNWR ranking definitions:

"The 604 total Regional Universities (239 public, 350 private and 15 for-profit) are ranked within four geographic areas: North, South, Midwest and West."

Regional universities are ranked within four geographic regions.

They are classified as regional per Carnegie and then USNWR ranks them within regions. The latter provides bragging rights for programs, schools, and colleges/universities, and probably helps sell to parents and students. But the designation of regional comes from Carnegie. Wikipedia will tell you all this.

- Professor with a PhD from what used to be called a Research 1 university

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_Classification_of_Institutions_of_Higher_Education

I don't see anything about regional in this wiki article. It doesn't even define what a national university is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a classification. This is where you find it:

https://carnegieclassifications.acenet.edu/

I think we just need to keep interjecting the correct answer periodically until people get that it has nothing to do with geography or the word regional.

Except it does. From USNWR ranking definitions:

"The 604 total Regional Universities (239 public, 350 private and 15 for-profit) are ranked within four geographic areas: North, South, Midwest and West."

Regional universities are ranked within four geographic regions.

They are classified as regional per Carnegie and then USNWR ranks them within regions. The latter provides bragging rights for programs, schools, and colleges/universities, and probably helps sell to parents and students. But the designation of regional comes from Carnegie. Wikipedia will tell you all this.

- Professor with a PhD from what used to be called a Research 1 university

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_Classification_of_Institutions_of_Higher_Education

I don't see anything about regional in this wiki article. It doesn't even define what a national university is.

Ok. Perhaps you could look up “Carnegie classification” The classifications have changed over the the years, but academics still talk about “Research 1” as the gold standard in terms of jobs. Parents may not understand what that means in terms of teaching, but many parents may be more interested in the prestige value of an institution than in the teaching quality of an institution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a classification. This is where you find it:

https://carnegieclassifications.acenet.edu/

I think we just need to keep interjecting the correct answer periodically until people get that it has nothing to do with geography or the word regional.

Except it does. From USNWR ranking definitions:

"The 604 total Regional Universities (239 public, 350 private and 15 for-profit) are ranked within four geographic areas: North, South, Midwest and West."

Regional universities are ranked within four geographic regions.

They are classified as regional per Carnegie and then USNWR ranks them within regions. The latter provides bragging rights for programs, schools, and colleges/universities, and probably helps sell to parents and students. But the designation of regional comes from Carnegie. Wikipedia will tell you all this.

- Professor with a PhD from what used to be called a Research 1 university

No, they are classified as "Master's Colleges and Universities" per Carnegie, and then USNWR separates them into four regions and ranks them, and calls them Regional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a classification. This is where you find it:

https://carnegieclassifications.acenet.edu/

I think we just need to keep interjecting the correct answer periodically until people get that it has nothing to do with geography or the word regional.

Except it does. From USNWR ranking definitions:

"The 604 total Regional Universities (239 public, 350 private and 15 for-profit) are ranked within four geographic areas: North, South, Midwest and West."

Regional universities are ranked within four geographic regions.

They are classified as regional per Carnegie and then USNWR ranks them within regions. The latter provides bragging rights for programs, schools, and colleges/universities, and probably helps sell to parents and students. But the designation of regional comes from Carnegie. Wikipedia will tell you all this.

- Professor with a PhD from what used to be called a Research 1 university

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_Classification_of_Institutions_of_Higher_Education

I don't see anything about regional in this wiki article. It doesn't even define what a national university is.

Ok. Perhaps you could look up “Carnegie classification” The classifications have changed over the the years, but academics still talk about “Research 1” as the gold standard in terms of jobs. Parents may not understand what that means in terms of teaching, but many parents may be more interested in the prestige value of an institution than in the teaching quality of an institution.

Hey, someone said go find it on wiki, and I'm just pointing out that it's not on wiki.

Nor can I find the definition of regional or national university on the Carnegie site.

So perhaps you could point me to exactly where Carnegie defines them because I only see the definitions on USNWR.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a classification. This is where you find it:

https://carnegieclassifications.acenet.edu/

I think we just need to keep interjecting the correct answer periodically until people get that it has nothing to do with geography or the word regional.

Except it does. From USNWR ranking definitions:

"The 604 total Regional Universities (239 public, 350 private and 15 for-profit) are ranked within four geographic areas: North, South, Midwest and West."

Regional universities are ranked within four geographic regions.

They are classified as regional per Carnegie and then USNWR ranks them within regions. The latter provides bragging rights for programs, schools, and colleges/universities, and probably helps sell to parents and students. But the designation of regional comes from Carnegie. Wikipedia will tell you all this.

- Professor with a PhD from what used to be called a Research 1 university

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_Classification_of_Institutions_of_Higher_Education

I don't see anything about regional in this wiki article. It doesn't even define what a national university is.

Ok. Perhaps you could look up “Carnegie classification” The classifications have changed over the the years, but academics still talk about “Research 1” as the gold standard in terms of jobs. Parents may not understand what that means in terms of teaching, but many parents may be more interested in the prestige value of an institution than in the teaching quality of an institution.

Hey, someone said go find it on wiki, and I'm just pointing out that it's not on wiki.

Nor can I find the definition of regional or national university on the Carnegie site.

So perhaps you could point me to exactly where Carnegie defines them because I only see the definitions on USNWR.

Carnegie doesn't use the National or Regional terms. Those are USNWR's designations, based off their grouping of Carnegie's doctoral/masters/baccalaureate classifications.

[Anonymous]

They use Carnegie classifications. Simple as that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They use Carnegie classifications. Simple as that.

Except Carnegie doesn’t divide up schools by region.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I view it as reach. It is only known within the region where it exists. JMU, CNU, GMU in Virginia would be regional schools. They're known within a geographic sphere, not not particularly nationally. If you went to Los Angeles and said you have a degree from James Madison U., the person would think "where?" and they wouldn't know where it was.

This doesn't mean the school is bad, it just means it doesn't have a national or global name. But if you said "I went to the University of Virginia or Virginia Tech," the person in LA would think "Oh, I've heard of those."

University of ________ (input State) usually is known in the U.S.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's a consolation prize for universities that aren't very good. They get to be on a "list" even if it's not the "real" list. You're not a top national university or a top LAC but you are a top regional university. Yay!

No, it's not that. There are excellent schools on regional lists.

I'm looking at the lists of Best Regional Colleges and they're not getting me very excited about their excellence.

North:
Coast Guard Academy
Cooper Union
Merchant Marine Academy

South:
High Point
Flagler
Florida Polytechnic

Midwest:
Cottey
Taylor
Illinois Wesleyan

West:
Embry-Riddle
Carroll
Cal State Maritime Academy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a consolation prize for universities that aren't very good. They get to be on a "list" even if it's not the "real" list. You're not a top national university or a top LAC but you are a top regional university. Yay!

No, it's not that. There are excellent schools on regional lists.

I'm looking at the lists of Best Regional Colleges and they're not getting me very excited about their excellence.

North:
Coast Guard Academy
Cooper Union
Merchant Marine Academy

South:
High Point
Flagler
Florida Polytechnic

Midwest:
Cottey
Taylor
Illinois Wesleyan

West:
Embry-Riddle
Carroll
Cal State Maritime Academy

Just because you aren't familiar with them doesn't mean some of those schools don't have strong programs in certain areas, like Embry-Riddle for aeronautics.

Other highly ranked regional universities include popular schools like Cal Poly SLO, CNU, College of Charleston, RISD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a consolation prize for universities that aren't very good. They get to be on a "list" even if it's not the "real" list. You're not a top national university or a top LAC but you are a top regional university. Yay!

No, it's not that. There are excellent schools on regional lists.

I'm looking at the lists of Best Regional Colleges and they're not getting me very excited about their excellence.

North:
Coast Guard Academy
Cooper Union
Merchant Marine Academy

South:
High Point
Flagler
Florida Polytechnic

Midwest:
Cottey
Taylor
Illinois Wesleyan

West:
Embry-Riddle
Carroll
Cal State Maritime Academy

Then you don't know colleges. I don't know the midwest and west but the North schools and High Point are quite good.